Report: “Favre Can’t Stand Green Bay”

[cheesner]

The thing is, Pacopete, the Favre years really sucked. He won 1 championship in 16 years. The Packers won 11 in the prior 80 years of their existence. Therefore with Favre we won less than half of what we could have expected to win. Now that he is gone, maybe the Packers can get back to their winning ways.

Serious? Those 16 years sucked? And because of him we only won one championship? Wow.. I honestly don't even know what to say to you... go back to our winning ways? Of what?.. the 60's? cuz there sure as hell was no winning in the 70's/80's... ridiculous...

Pssssssst Petey...I think he was joking.

haha, i hope so.. I guess I don't read sarcasm well

I have a #4 jersey, my 6 yo daughter has a #4 jersey, I have an autographed football (favre and Reggie), a Brett bobble head on my desk, a . . . etc. I am a fan of Brett, always will be.

But he is gone. He was a very good QB, he isn't anymore, his skills have diminished. The Packers had to move on and TT (actually MM) pulled the trigger. They did it not to screw Brett, not to screw the Packers, not to piss off the fans. They did it simply because they felt it would make the Packers a better team.

I believe, and the season pretty much bears this out, that the Packers made the best (though difficult) choice.

Although Brett was a great fooball player for the Packers, it does not mean he was a great human being. No matter what a person can accomplish on the field necessarily affects the type of person that he is off of it. It is unwise to so completely idolize someone you forgive or ignore personal issues. I would, however, completely dismiss those issues and remember his one time football prowess, but the unfortunately, his attitude and actions are hurting the Packers. Not only is he hurting the Packers, this has driven an unfortunate wedge between many Packer fans.

I was a Packer fan, long before Brett came to town, and I will continue to be long after he is in Canton.


I am still a fan of Brett the Packer, but I sure do not appreciate him or his actions since he retired. (The first time)

[falco]

Gunakor, I hope you don't really leave the forum. I owe you an apology for my harsh remarks. I haven't read this entire thread and only jumped on your most recent comments.

I completely disagree with what you said and think you were out of line. There are a lot of long standing posters here who remain rather pessimistic at times (or realistic as some might say) about the teams chances. You don't need to be a homer to be a fan.

That being said, you are a good poster here. Paco and packerarcher are both trolls, and have been rabble rousers since the Favre saga began. You are in a league above them.

[Zool]

Cheese and I have the same feeling on the situation. The only jersey i've ever owned with a name other than my own is Favre. Was my favorite football player for a decade and a half. When he was stinkin up the joint in 94 I defended him to the end. I'm just tired of the whole saga now.

[RashanGary]

Great post, Cheesner.

I have a hard time saying anything nice about him because he irks me so bad, but deep down, I feel exactly like you do. Was a huge fan. I've made a lot of the same mistakes as him. I grew up. He didn't. The way he's been, the last few years, I just don't respect at all.

[GBRulz]

I grew up. He didn't.

LOL. You make me laugh, JH !

[RashanGary]

I grew up. He didn't.

LOL. You make me laugh, JH !

hahaha



Let me rephrase, "I grew up, in terms of selfishness, he didn't"

[RashanGary]

And for the record, I don't hate the guy at all. He's just a guy, doing what he thinks is right. I just don't like what he's done to other people. People who get thier butts kissed too long lose their ground. That is what I think of him.

[sheepshead]

[Gunakor]

The reflection on Favre's helmet is still Lambeau Field

[sheepshead]

http://www.twincities.com/news/ci_12299310?source=rss

This is mildly interesting.

[ThunderDan]

Hard to get grass stains on your uni playing in a dome.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Sounds like Chilly is putting on the full-court press for Favre.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4142857

Minnesota Vikings head coach Brad Childress and quarterback Brett Favre plan to meet at an undisclosed location later this week to discuss the possibility of the former Packers and Jets quarterback renouncing his retirement from the NFL to play the 2009 season with the Vikings, according to a source with direct knowledge of discussions between the two parties.

There is a mutual understanding that sometime soon thereafter Favre will decide whether to sign with the Vikings. The team would expect him to participate fully in offseason minicamps and training camps, which he missed last year with the Jets.

Favre has not been working out and declined to have surgery to repair the torn biceps tendon that plagued him the final month of last season.

[sheepshead]

http://hooters.know-where.com/hooters/cgi/site?site=266&address=&design=default&lang=en&mapid=US

[Rastak]

Sounds like Chilly is putting on the full-court press for Favre.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4142857

Minnesota Vikings head coach Brad Childress and quarterback Brett Favre plan to meet at an undisclosed location later this week to discuss the possibility of the former Packers and Jets quarterback renouncing his retirement from the NFL to play the 2009 season with the Vikings, according to a source with direct knowledge of discussions between the two parties.

There is a mutual understanding that sometime soon thereafter Favre will decide whether to sign with the Vikings. The team would expect him to participate fully in offseason minicamps and training camps, which he missed last year with the Jets.

Favre has not been working out and declined to have surgery to repair the torn biceps tendon that plagued him the final month of last season.

Not sure I'd call it the full court press...one meeting.....I HOPE the conversation centers around the following....

1) Is your arm healthy.
2) You have to win the job, but we'll give you every chance.
3) You ain't getting 10mil.
4) You gotta show up for some offseason stuff, if only for the mental preparation.


oh, and 10 bucks says some clown fires up another thread on this latest development.

[The Shadow]

Nothing like an argument with Pacopete ...





Can't say I've missed them at all... too bad for the pardons.

LOL- It's like that scene in Ghostbusters when they let all the spooks out of the basement vault in NYC! They start trouble all over the city and run amuck.

Whoa, whoa, whoa.. I'm not even really arguin here. Why do you guys have to go there? We were talking about how we haven't been called Titletown in 30 years or so. I said Favre and Co (in which I named the 3 big names) brought us back in the 90's. Is that a bad thing to be saying? I mean I know you guys don't like Favre at the moment, but whats wrong with that?

The thing is, Pacopete, the Favre years really sucked. He won 1 championship in 16 years. The Packers won 11 in the prior 80 years of their existence. Therefore with Favre we won less than half of what we could have expected to win. Now that he is gone, maybe the Packers can get back to their winning ways.

That's the same point I have been advocating for years. However, I don't believe most of those years actually sucked; it always seemed there was a chance the team could win another championship.
We were let down, time after time however, and a lot of that lays squarely upon Favre's doorstep.
I would catagorize them more as 'tease' years.
And here is the rub (at least for me) : The Packers SHOULD have won more (that second Super Bowl appearance at least). The fact that Favre never evolved much beyond a rookie mindset (remember the infamous "I'm not ever going to change the way I play?" quote?) has always seemed a tragedy to me. Someone with that kind of talent should have been willing to put in the work needed to evolve with the passing years - instead of relying solely on a great arm and a 'hometown hero' attitude.
If only Starr's head could have been grafted onto his body.....