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[cpk1994]

It's all about revenge and a bitter man that can't let go. The love affair died and he can't get over it and can't let it go.

I'm going with what we all should know about Brett Favre and that's his love for the game and to compete.

To take it to: It's personal or he has something to prove is dark, as mean and prickly as the personalitys of those that post such garbage. I came to know him as a Packer fan and remain loyal to him as the football player he endeavours to be. To respect his style, spirit and play and for all he wants still hopefully to give to the game.

Favre in a Vikings uniform certainly is intriguiging. I would use different adjectives to describe the hatred he gets on this forum from some nobs that don't have the brains to blow powder to hell. Yes! That's you as it fits.

A suggestion Packerrats:

Let go of the man and lets just see what transpires. It's a free world gents but can we be free of ridicule and ignorance here? I suspect that will challenge the small minded among us.

Not sure which fits your post more Naive or mean spirited and condescending . But one thing is clear the small minded comment is a cheap shot by someone who most likely has a man crush on Favre.

Totally agree!

[RashanGary]

Not sure which fits your post more Naive or mean spirited and condescending . But one thing is clear the small minded comment is a cheap shot by someone who most likely has a man crush on Favre.

Big TT fan here but I also like Woodbuck cuz he's crazy cool. Don't go knockin Woody.

That said, anyone who talks about other posters having a "man crush" on Favre is alright by me. Welcome to the site!! There is no such thing as no such thing and there is no such thing as too many Favre realists or too much beer.

[woodbuck27]

Favre is starting to piss me off:


http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...s&confirm=true

Looks like Paco has already commented on the article.

Last year, when Favre applied for reinstatement from retirement, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell -- who was responsible for the reinstatement -- saw the potential for a sour scene at Packers training camp and decided to reach out to Favre by phone.

According to sources, Favre explained to Goodell that he had no choice but to ask the Packers to come back in order to force his release if they wouldn't let him compete with Aaron Rodgers for the starting job in Green Bay.

Favre's intention was to be released and join the Minnesota Vikings, the Packers' NFC North rivals.

At one point, according to the source, Favre got passionate on the phone, telling Goodell, "He (Thompson) doesn't want me going to Minnesota because he knows I'll kick his ass twice a year!"

That makes it mere hearsay. Mere hearsay at a time of high emotion for Favre even if he went there. If he went there? Favre like all here is a mere human being and things this time last season were highly charged.

Again, Favre is human.

[Bretsky]

It's all about revenge and a bitter man that can't let go. The love affair died and he can't get over it and can't let it go.

I'm going with what we all should know about Brett Favre and that's his love for the game and to compete.

To take it to: It's personal or he has something to prove is dark, as mean and prickly as the personalitys of those that post such garbage. I came to know him as a Packer fan and remain loyal to him as the football player he endeavours to be. To respect his style, spirit and play and for all he wants still hopefully to give to the game.

Favre in a Vikings uniform certainly is intriguiging. I would use different adjectives to describe the hatred he gets on this forum from some nobs that don't have the brains to blow powder to hell. Yes! That's you as it fits.

A suggestion Packerrats:

Let go of the man and lets just see what transpires. It's a free world gents but can we be free of ridicule and ignorance here? I suspect that will challenge the small minded among us.

Not sure which fits your post more Naive or mean spirited and condescending . But one thing is clear the small minded comment is a cheap shot by someone who most likely has a man crush on Favre.

Totally agree!

of course you would

congrads to the relatively new poster for appearing to jump on your wagon

[CaptainD]

Favre is starting to piss me off:


http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...s&confirm=true

Looks like Paco has already commented on the article.

Last year, when Favre applied for reinstatement from retirement, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell -- who was responsible for the reinstatement -- saw the potential for a sour scene at Packers training camp and decided to reach out to Favre by phone.

According to sources, Favre explained to Goodell that he had no choice but to ask the Packers to come back in order to force his release if they wouldn't let him compete with Aaron Rodgers for the starting job in Green Bay.

Favre's intention was to be released and join the Minnesota Vikings, the Packers' NFC North rivals.

At one point, according to the source, Favre got passionate on the phone, telling Goodell, "He (Thompson) doesn't want me going to Minnesota because he knows I'll kick his ass twice a year!"

That makes it mere hearsay. Mere hearsay at a time of high emotion for Favre even if he went there. If he went there? Favre like all here is a mere human being and things this time last season were highly charged.

Again, Favre is human.

What can I say? The conspiracy theorists can argue all they want and do revisionist history all they want but facts are facts.
1) TT did not kiss Brett's butt and sign a horde of FAs while Brett was here but that was not an attempt to run Brett out of town. Thats just how TT operates. He is no more urgent to sign FAs with Rodgers as QB than he was with Brett. Is he now trying to run Rodgers out of town?

2)The decision to draft Rodgers was not an attempt to run Brett out of town. Rodgers was the best player on the board. Brett was 36. Brett had been waffling for a couple years already about retirement. The Packers had no quality backup QB let alone an heir apparant if Brett were to leave. And Rodgers just fell to them. And remember Brett kept the job for 3 years after Rodgers arrived and would have kept it in 2008 had Brett not retired.

3) Brett did in fact retire on his own after the 2007 season. Could the Packers have welcomed him back? Sure. Can people be mad that they did not welcome him back? Of course. But lets not change the procuring cause of the problem which is that Brett decided to "hang em up".

Brett was not forced out. Brett was not run off. Brett was not cut or traded until he himself made the first move by retiring. Folks can argue all you want that the Packers were wrong in trading him or not giving his starting job back or whatever but you cannot change the fact than Brett retired for the entire 2008 offseason and then wanted to come back when camp opened and the Packers said "we've moved on." Brett brought this on himself. Now he is invigorated to "stick it" to Green Bay and TT. That is just how it is. No spinning will change those basic facts

[woodbuck27]

It's all about revenge and a bitter man that can't let go. The love affair died and he can't get over it and can't let it go.

I'm going with what we all should know about Brett Favre and that's his love for the game and to compete.

To take it to: It's personal or he has something to prove is dark, as mean and prickly as the personalitys of those that post such garbage. I came to know him as a Packer fan and remain loyal to him as the football player he endeavours to be. To respect his style, spirit and play and for all he wants still hopefully to give to the game.

Favre in a Vikings uniform certainly is intriguiging. I would use different adjectives to describe the hatred he gets on this forum from some nobs that don't have the brains to blow powder to hell. Yes! That's you as it fits.

A suggestion Packerrats:

Let go of the man and lets just see what transpires. It's a free world gents but can we be free of ridicule and ignorance here? I suspect that will challenge the small minded among us.

Not sure which fits your post more Naive or mean spirited and condescending . But one thing is clear the small minded comment is a cheap shot by someone who most likely has a man crush on Favre.

Man crush FlashPack!? Explain that to me please.

I've no idea what your referring to here FlashPack. I'll only assume you most certainly do or you wouldn't use the label. I'm intrigued to read your definitiuon of what a man crush is in your terms.

Inspite of the label:

Here is where I stand on Brett Favre. I'm a Packer and NFL fan. If Favre is medically OK to play for whomever I support that as I enjoy the NFL moreso with the likes of Brett Favre active rather than retired. He had a serious right arm injury last season and still gave it all he had but that i9njury made his throws less accurate. Favre admits this fact was a factor in the Jets collapse over the final six games. All considered Favre was able to QB the Jets to nine victories. Alot of teams failed to win nine games in 2008. He can still win with the right team and even with a team that's not going with all the horses.

I always wish him well as I would any Pro athlete. How can that be an issue or problem at Packerrats? Anywhere?

[Bretsky]

Favre is starting to piss me off:


http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...s&confirm=true

Looks like Paco has already commented on the article.

Last year, when Favre applied for reinstatement from retirement, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell -- who was responsible for the reinstatement -- saw the potential for a sour scene at Packers training camp and decided to reach out to Favre by phone.

According to sources, Favre explained to Goodell that he had no choice but to ask the Packers to come back in order to force his release if they wouldn't let him compete with Aaron Rodgers for the starting job in Green Bay.

Favre's intention was to be released and join the Minnesota Vikings, the Packers' NFC North rivals.

At one point, according to the source, Favre got passionate on the phone, telling Goodell, "He (Thompson) doesn't want me going to Minnesota because he knows I'll kick his ass twice a year!"

That makes it mere hearsay. Mere hearsay at a time of high emotion for Favre even if he went there. If he went there? Favre like all here is a mere human being and things this time last season were highly charged.

Again, Favre is human.

What can I say? The conspiracy theorists can argue all they want and do revisionist history all they want but facts are facts.
1) TT did not kiss Brett's butt and sign a horde of FAs while Brett was here but that was not an attempt to run Brett out of town. Thats just how TT operates. He is no more urgent to sign FAs with Rodgers as QB than he was with Brett. Is he now trying to run Rodgers out of town?

2)The decision to draft Rodgers was not an attempt to run Brett out of town. Rodgers was the best player on the board. Brett was 36. Brett had been waffling for a couple years already about retirement. The Packers had no quality backup QB let alone an heir apparant if Brett were to leave. And Rodgers just fell to them. And remember Brett kept the job for 3 years after Rodgers arrived and would have kept it in 2008 had Brett not retired.

3) Brett did in fact retire on his own after the 2007 season. Could the Packers have welcomed him back? Sure. Can people be mad that they did not welcome him back? Of course. But lets not change the procuring cause of the problem which is that Brett decided to "hang em up".

Brett was not forced out. Brett was not run off. Brett was not cut or traded until he himself made the first move by retiring. Folks can argue all you want that the Packers were wrong in trading him or not giving his starting job back or whatever but you cannot change the fact than Brett retired for the entire 2008 offseason and then wanted to come back when camp opened and the Packers said "we've moved on." Brett brought this on himself. Now he is invigorated to "stick it" to Green Bay and TT. That is just how it is. No spinning will change those basic facts

Solid Post Captain

Somehow Favre thinks he was led on or TTT lied to him; but we have no evidence or facts that show that. Who knows.


Cheers,
B

[mission]

Nice sig, CaptainD... good graphic skills.. That you?

[FlashPack]

It's all about revenge and a bitter man that can't let go. The love affair died and he can't get over it and can't let it go.

I'm going with what we all should know about Brett Favre and that's his love for the game and to compete.

To take it to: It's personal or he has something to prove is dark, as mean and prickly as the personalitys of those that post such garbage. I came to know him as a Packer fan and remain loyal to him as the football player he endeavours to be. To respect his style, spirit and play and for all he wants still hopefully to give to the game.

Favre in a Vikings uniform certainly is intriguiging. I would use different adjectives to describe the hatred he gets on this forum from some nobs that don't have the brains to blow powder to hell. Yes! That's you as it fits.

A suggestion Packerrats:

Let go of the man and lets just see what transpires. It's a free world gents but can we be free of ridicule and ignorance here? I suspect that will challenge the small minded among us.

Not sure which fits your post more Naive or mean spirited and condescending . But one thing is clear the small minded comment is a cheap shot by someone who most likely has a man crush on Favre.

Man crush FlashPack!? Explain that to me please.

I've no idea what your referring to here FlashPack. I'll only assume you most certainly do or you wouldn't use the label. I'm intrigued to read your definitiuon of what a man crush is in your terms.

Inspite of the label:

Here is where I stand on Brett Favre. I'm a Packer and NFL fan. If Favre is medically OK to play for whomever I support that as I enjoy the NFL moreso with the likes of Brett Favre active rather than retired. He had a serious right arm injury last season and still gave it all he had but that i9njury made his throws less accurate. Favre admits this fact was a factor in the Jets collapse over the final six games. All considered Favre was able to QB the Jets to nine victories. Alot of teams failed to win nine games in 2008. He can still win with the right team and even with a team that's not going with all the horses.

I always wish him well as I would any Pro athlete. How can that be an issue or problem at Packerrats? Anywhere?

I think no player is greater than an organization and, regardless of how long Brett was a player for the Packers, the organization needs to put its needs and priorities first, for the long-term betterment of the team. I believe the team was putting its future first when it decided to move on after the retirement of Favre.
There are many choices that Brett Favre could make with his exit from the game. He could walk away gracefully, as Robert Smith and Barry Sanders did, with class and integrity. Or you can flounder around, flirt with the idea that you still have enough skill to play a young man's game. Players who follow the former route seem to have a cleaner epitaph; players that choose to fight against their fade, like Reggie White (Panthers), Jerry Rice (Seahawks) and Edgerrin James (Cardinals) and others, diminish themselves with their choice of exit. They're still great players, but their story takes a forgettable turn at the end, instead of spinning a glorious end.

I am annoyed and irritated that Favre would even consider playing for a team that is one of the most hated for all Packer fans. I would put my hate for the Vikings ("hate" in the most respectful way possible) above my dislike for any other team, including the Bears, or any other team in professional sports.

Favre has the freedom to choose how his legacy is written and time will not forget the choices he has made at the end of his career. If he chooses to play for the Vikes, I will no longer be a Favre fan. If anything, that will strengthen my resolution to remain a fan of the team.

Heck, I doubt I could ever be a fan of an individual player again, considering how Favre manipulated the team, the media and the fanbase for his own purposes. Favre would like to be spun as a victim throughout this whole thing, but Favre--regardless of whether or not you believe he was "pushed" into retiring--made the choice to retire....TWICE. The team has tried to take a professional and non-confrontational stand through this whole drama, yet Favre continually re-inserts himself into the spotlight.

Like it or not, the NFL IS a young man's game. He may still have the skill and will to do battle, but he doesn't have the stamina to keep up.

I hope he's flirting with the idea and stays retired. It would the best for all parties involved--the Viking and the Packers organization, the Viking and Packers players, and the fans of both franchises.

As for the "man Crush comment you had it coming for calling out a new poster....he has just as much right to his opinion as you have to yours.

[cpk1994]

Favre is starting to piss me off:


http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...s&confirm=true

Looks like Paco has already commented on the article.

Last year, when Favre applied for reinstatement from retirement, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell -- who was responsible for the reinstatement -- saw the potential for a sour scene at Packers training camp and decided to reach out to Favre by phone.

According to sources, Favre explained to Goodell that he had no choice but to ask the Packers to come back in order to force his release if they wouldn't let him compete with Aaron Rodgers for the starting job in Green Bay.

Favre's intention was to be released and join the Minnesota Vikings, the Packers' NFC North rivals.

At one point, according to the source, Favre got passionate on the phone, telling Goodell, "He (Thompson) doesn't want me going to Minnesota because he knows I'll kick his ass twice a year!"

That makes it mere hearsay. Mere hearsay at a time of high emotion for Favre even if he went there. If he went there? Favre like all here is a mere human being and things this time last season were highly charged.

Again, Favre is human.

What can I say? The conspiracy theorists can argue all they want and do revisionist history all they want but facts are facts.
1) TT did not kiss Brett's butt and sign a horde of FAs while Brett was here but that was not an attempt to run Brett out of town. Thats just how TT operates. He is no more urgent to sign FAs with Rodgers as QB than he was with Brett. Is he now trying to run Rodgers out of town?

2)The decision to draft Rodgers was not an attempt to run Brett out of town. Rodgers was the best player on the board. Brett was 36. Brett had been waffling for a couple years already about retirement. The Packers had no quality backup QB let alone an heir apparant if Brett were to leave. And Rodgers just fell to them. And remember Brett kept the job for 3 years after Rodgers arrived and would have kept it in 2008 had Brett not retired.

3) Brett did in fact retire on his own after the 2007 season. Could the Packers have welcomed him back? Sure. Can people be mad that they did not welcome him back? Of course. But lets not change the procuring cause of the problem which is that Brett decided to "hang em up".

Brett was not forced out. Brett was not run off. Brett was not cut or traded until he himself made the first move by retiring. Folks can argue all you want that the Packers were wrong in trading him or not giving his starting job back or whatever but you cannot change the fact than Brett retired for the entire 2008 offseason and then wanted to come back when camp opened and the Packers said "we've moved on." Brett brought this on himself. Now he is invigorated to "stick it" to Green Bay and TT. That is just how it is. No spinning will change those basic facts

Excellent post. It should be requried reading for those across the various packer forums that continue to perpetrate the myth that TT ran Brett out of town.

[Chevelle2]

Brett Favre-QB-Jets May. 17 - 11:20 am et

Shoulder specialist Dr. David Altchek believes Brett Favre's arm injury won't prevent him playing again.

"Worst-case scenario, he would have to have minor surgery," said Altchek. "Otherwise, (the Vikings) should be in good shape. I don't think this is the kind of problem where you say, 'Uh-oh.'" Altchek said Favre's best option would be a biceps tenotomy, which would take six to eight weeks of rest and rehab before throwing again. "As a team physician, I wouldn't be worried about this at all," he said.
Source: St. Paul Pioneer Press

[woodbuck27]

Favre in a Vikings uniform certainly is intriguiging. I would use different adjectives to describe the hatred he gets on this forum from some nobs that don't have the brains to blow powder to hell. Yes! That's you as it fits.

People are entitled to hate Favre or love Favre. People are entitled to hate Ted or love Ted. But when you start calling people stupid just because they don't agree with you, then you are the one that has crossed the line.

Really Scott!?

What good does it do for any of us to hate here or run it on anyone that posts here? That word 'hate', describes over the top too much negative emotion and is far removed from the way we need to be thinking today in terms of balance and peace in this world.

Am I wrong?

[cpk1994]

Brett Favre-QB-Jets May. 17 - 11:20 am et

Shoulder specialist Dr. David Altchek believes Brett Favre's arm injury won't prevent him playing again.

"Worst-case scenario, he would have to have minor surgery," said Altchek. "Otherwise, (the Vikings) should be in good shape. I don't think this is the kind of problem where you say, 'Uh-oh.'" Altchek said Favre's best option would be a biceps tenotomy, which would take six to eight weeks of rest and rehab before throwing again. "As a team physician, I wouldn't be worried about this at all," he said.
Source: St. Paul Pioneer Press

It should be noted that this Dr. is making his opinion based on reports he has heard and hasn't seen the MRI or X-Rays of Brett's shoulder. Basically he is repeating what other Doctors and specialists have said on it already, bringing up cutting the tendon which was brought up previously.

Here is the article to which Chevelle is referring:

http://www.twincities.com/ci_12382062?source=most_viewed

Also, Sage Rosenfels has broken his silence about Favre. Basically he said "No Comment". Me thinks he maybe a little annoyed with the situation:

http://www.twincities.com/allheadlines/ci_12390980?nclick_check=1

[MJZiggy]

He he he...they get an injured rent-a-QB for a season and piss off the one they brought in to be the guy in the process...

[Stevogbfan]

Nice sig, CaptainD... good graphic skills.. That you?

i agree totally, nice to see jennings on there, he's gunna be great