Gil Brandt's comments on Ted Thompson

[Pacopete4]

[quote="Tyrone Bigguns"]

Below .500 football during his run- yes, he is under .500 as an NFL GM. He did inherit an over paid team on the decline, but still under .500.. which is not good! I have seen other GM's build while still making the playoffs, having winning seasons ect...

[/quote="Pacopete4"]

Examples please.

every year the Patriots, Colts and Steelers are rebuilding while maintaining a high level of play without missing a beat.

[ThunderDan]

oh my, i cant believe i cheer for the same team as you two...

what did I say that's incorrect? I'm not a huge fan of how TT is doing things but I'll give him this season to turn it around or I want him gone. I'm sure there are a lot more Packer fans that feel the same way.

Giving him a year? Seems like you have been on his ass for 3 years already.

It is the irrationality of the blind bitterness that comes across in your posts that is disconcerting. It is like people posting very negative things about Favre. Yes Brett did have some bad points, and some choose to be negative and dwell on them. But overall he was a great QB and a great Packer.

I'll break down my post for you:


Below .500 football during his run- yes, he is under .500 as an NFL GM. He did inherit an over paid team on the decline, but still under .500.. which is not good! I have seen other GM's build while still making the playoffs, having winning seasons ect...

some pretty good drafting and young players- a great thing about TT. Even though he might biffed on Harrell, hes made some great draft picks and got us some good young talent.

a brand new defensive scheme after the first one didnt work- Part of the GM's job is to get in a coach/coaching staff that does the job. Well he's already failed on the defensive side of the ball whether it was McCarthy's pick or not, does not matter.. cuz guess who hired McCarthy... TT! Now thats not saying this move right here wont work and it'll be the best thing for Packer football since good ole #4 was traded for but it could also be like the zone blocking scheme and suck balls

oh and ZERO superbowls... he has had 4 seasons now. Time is going against him. Like I said.. I'm a results guy and so far, there really hasnt been the results of this great plan he put in place. We've only made the playoffs ONE of his FOUR seasons here. That is NOT GOOD.

Like I said, if the NFC championship game was our high point and we struggle again this season.. time to move on and bring in someone who will do a better job.

Now if TT's plan works out and we start actually winning, then awesome... I'm happy. But don't put your friggin head in the sand and pretend like all is well in Packer land when its really not.

I guess that means that 29 NFL GMs need to be fired using that logic of the last 4 years.

[Pacopete4]

oh my, i cant believe i cheer for the same team as you two...

what did I say that's incorrect? I'm not a huge fan of how TT is doing things but I'll give him this season to turn it around or I want him gone. I'm sure there are a lot more Packer fans that feel the same way.

Giving him a year? Seems like you have been on his ass for 3 years already.

It is the irrationality of the blind bitterness that comes across in your posts that is disconcerting. It is like people posting very negative things about Favre. Yes Brett did have some bad points, and some choose to be negative and dwell on them. But overall he was a great QB and a great Packer.

I'll break down my post for you:


Below .500 football during his run- yes, he is under .500 as an NFL GM. He did inherit an over paid team on the decline, but still under .500.. which is not good! I have seen other GM's build while still making the playoffs, having winning seasons ect...

some pretty good drafting and young players- a great thing about TT. Even though he might biffed on Harrell, hes made some great draft picks and got us some good young talent.

a brand new defensive scheme after the first one didnt work- Part of the GM's job is to get in a coach/coaching staff that does the job. Well he's already failed on the defensive side of the ball whether it was McCarthy's pick or not, does not matter.. cuz guess who hired McCarthy... TT! Now thats not saying this move right here wont work and it'll be the best thing for Packer football since good ole #4 was traded for but it could also be like the zone blocking scheme and suck balls

oh and ZERO superbowls... he has had 4 seasons now. Time is going against him. Like I said.. I'm a results guy and so far, there really hasnt been the results of this great plan he put in place. We've only made the playoffs ONE of his FOUR seasons here. That is NOT GOOD.

Like I said, if the NFC championship game was our high point and we struggle again this season.. time to move on and bring in someone who will do a better job.

Now if TT's plan works out and we start actually winning, then awesome... I'm happy. But don't put your friggin head in the sand and pretend like all is well in Packer land when its really not.

I guess that means that 29 NFL GMs need to be fired using that logic of the last 4 years.

Ok ThunderDan... then how many years are you going to give him? How many years of non winning Green Bay football are u going to go through before you say enough is enough. Hell I'm not to that point yet, but if this years not a winner and I'm talking 10+ wins with a real run at winning a super bowl, then your damn right I'm sick of TT.

[DannoMac21]

I guess I don't buy the injury excuse. We lost A) Jenkins, who was largely ineffective due to injury in 2007, and B) Barnett, who was a real dynamo in 2007, and then C) Harris for a few weeks, but his replacement was more than adequate during this time.

The only real injury difference that I see was Barnett. He is definitely a difference maker, but a 7 game difference maker? Hard to say.

With that said, last year was a weird year and it will be nice to watch them bounce back this year. They have an easier schedule and should be expected to 9-7 at least, more likely 10-6.

My only small beef with teets is that he needs to draft a little bit better if he isn't going to supplement via FA. He is a pretty good drafter in the lower rounds by all accounts, but he needs some ozzie newsome magic to find a defensive stud. Hopefully, Raji or Matthews is that person and I can insert my foot into my mouth. That is the huge need of the team -- a defensive superstar to compliment Rodgers on offensive.

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I don't think thats an accurate assessment at all. One would have a very difficult time ranking Rodgers as a blue chipper. Jennings is without a doubt a blue chipper. Best player on the team by far.

[Rastak]

I listen to Gil Brandt on NFL Radio quite often in the evenings.....he does know his stuff. Last time he discussed Thompson on the radio he was very complimentary. Indicated those that know him really get along well with him and he's extremely knowledgeable. Now 20 minutes earlier he was talking up the Vikings big time. He knows his football!

[Pacopete4]

I listen to Gil Brandt on NFL Radio quite often in the evenings.....he does know his stuff. Last time he discussed Thompson on the radio he was very complimentary. Indicated those that know him really get along well with him and he's extremely knowledgeable. Now 20 minutes earlier he was talking up the Vikings big time. He knows his football!

Does he ever say anything negative about anything?

[Rastak]

I listen to Gil Brandt on NFL Radio quite often in the evenings.....he does know his stuff. Last time he discussed Thompson on the radio he was very complimentary. Indicated those that know him really get along well with him and he's extremely knowledgeable. Now 20 minutes earlier he was talking up the Vikings big time. He knows his football!

Does he ever say anything negative about anything?

No, very rarely....a good point....but he doesn't rave about everything either and he was REALLY high on both Teddy T and the Vikings this upcoming season.

[Pacopete4]

No, very rarely....a good point....but he doesn't rave about everything either and he was REALLY high on both Teddy T and the Vikings this upcoming season.

what did he have to say about the idea of Favre being on the Vikes? Anything?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

[quote="Pacopete4"]

Below .500 football during his run- yes, he is under .500 as an NFL GM. He did inherit an over paid team on the decline, but still under .500.. which is not good! I have seen other GM's build while still making the playoffs, having winning seasons ect...

[/quote="Pacopete4"]

Examples please.

every year the Patriots, Colts and Steelers are rebuilding while maintaining a high level of play without missing a beat.

inherit an over paid team on the decline

When were the steelers, pats, and colts on the decline?

[Rastak]

No, very rarely....a good point....but he doesn't rave about everything either and he was REALLY high on both Teddy T and the Vikings this upcoming season.

what did he have to say about the idea of Favre being on the Vikes? Anything?

He thought it was a great fit.....and he likes Loadholt and Harvin to make rookie impacts.

Tim Ryan and Pa Kirwin also seem to think Favre would be a huge upgrade. I still say you HAVE to limit his throws or yank him late in the season...just my take there.

[Scott Campbell]

Re: Gil Brandt's comments on Ted Thompson

Eric, Bucks County 12:10 PM ET
If you owned a franchise who would you name as general manager and head coach? Who would you want as your quarterback? Gil Brandt, NFL.com

Gil Brandt:
Hi Eric. Well, I probably would want Bill Belichick as my head coach. I think I would want Ted Thompson of Green Bay as my general manager, and Peyton Manning as my quarterback.

gil brandt is one of the most respected, knowledgeable former personnel guys in the league.

i hope the packers fanbase realizes what we have in ole teddy.

Respect around league circles is worth way more than respect in the stands. This is very interesting.

[Pacopete4]

No, very rarely....a good point....but he doesn't rave about everything either and he was REALLY high on both Teddy T and the Vikings this upcoming season.

what did he have to say about the idea of Favre being on the Vikes? Anything?

He thought it was a great fit.....and he likes Loadholt and Harvin to make rookie impacts.

Tim Ryan and Pa Kirwin also seem to think Favre would be a huge upgrade. I still say you HAVE to limit his throws or yank him late in the season...just my take there.

The nice part for the Vikes is they do seem, and when I say seem to you never know the NFL, to have a pretty easy first 5 games to start the season that could be beneficial for Favre if he came back. If you were only throwing 20-25 times a game and passes that were manageable, he might stay fresh for a playoff run. But again, a lot of things have to work in order for something like that to happen. A Favre led Viking team is a scary thought, no matter if a lot of people don't seem to think it, I do.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

A Favre led Viking team is a scary thought, no matter if a lot of people don't seem to think it, I do.

You like it...you want the vikes to be better than the pack?

[ThunderDan]

Ok ThunderDan... then how many years are you going to give him? How many years of non winning Green Bay football are u going to go through before you say enough is enough. Hell I'm not to that point yet, but if this years not a winner and I'm talking 10+ wins with a real run at winning a super bowl, then your damn right I'm sick of TT.

You are already damn sick of him.

We go:
4-12
8-8
13-3
6-10

2005 was a complete rebuilding year. We finally have the group of core players to make a run. I think 2008 was the abberation. I think the next two years tells us if TT is taking us the right direction.