Favorite duds and disappointments

[Maxie the Taxi]

This is a great thread. There are so many at so many positions, but probably my biggest favorite/bust [outside of Abdul Hodge...I really wanted him to be a stud] was at the QB position. We drafted so many number one guys who had the rep in college but just never did much if anything in GB.

Randy Duncan

Don Horn

Jerry Tagge

Rich Campbell

All were supposed to be NFL phenoms and Packer "saviors."

And then there were my favorite hopeful longshots that never panned out by making it big:

David Whitehurst

Duke Carlisle

Dennis Claridge

Randy Wright

Frank Patrick (Always reminded me of Fred Munster playing QB)

And last but not least of these QB heartbreakers/disappointments: John Hadl (ouch!)

[sheepshead]

wait a minute, you thought Randy Wright was going to be great and he let you down?

[Maxie the Taxi]

wait a minute, you thought Randy Wright was going to be great and he let you down?

Hopin' he'd be another longshot Bart Starr. As I recall he wasn't all that bad. Just no arm.

[retailguy]

wait a minute, you thought Randy Wright was going to be great and he let you down?

Hopin' he'd be another longshot Bart Starr. As I recall he wasn't all that bad. Just no arm.

Randy Wright was a poor mans Trent Dilfer, before being Trent Dilfer was cool. I went to the Udub with him. Met him at a party once. Very cool guy. Too bad he didn't "make it". But he was better than a lot of the QB's through GB in the last 25 years.

[sheepshead]

There wasnt a long line of Wisconsin QBs shinning in the pro game up to that point. I would say the opposite for me, he was better than expected.

[Willard]

John Hadl
Dan Devine
Forest Gregg (the coach)

[Maxie the Taxi]

John Hadl
Dan Devine
Forest Gregg (the coach)

So true. And you can add Bart Starr (the coach) to that list. I don't think any GB coach came into the job with higher expectations and went out so disappointing. I'm Bart's biggest fan as a player. I'd rank him as in the top QB's of all time. But as a coach he sucked.

[Maxie the Taxi]

There wasnt a long line of Wisconsin QBs shinning in the pro game up to that point. I would say the opposite for me, he was better than expected.

I thought Ron Vanderkelen would "make it." Can't remember what happened to him.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

John Hadl
Dan Devine
Forest Gregg (the coach)

So true. And you can add Bart Starr (the coach) to that list. I don't think any GB coach came into the job with higher expectations and went out so disappointing. I'm Bart's biggest fan as a player. I'd rank him as in the top QB's of all time. But as a coach he sucked.

As much as he sucked, i think Starr was just the symptom of the real problem...the Packer org sucked.

Their drafting policy, their salaries for players, etc.

I don't remember when it was exactly, but i recall that the pack in the mid or late 80s had like 50 mill in the bank, but wasn't spending it on players.

You can look at most businesses...and for sure in sports...that it all starts at the top.

Bucs improve the minute Culverhouse is gone...and they start spending

Bills improve when Ralph Wilson finally realizes that you gotta pay players...think about all the great Bill players he let go.

Lions...the fords are the worst owners in the NFL.

[Maxie the Taxi]

John Hadl
Dan Devine
Forest Gregg (the coach)

So true. And you can add Bart Starr (the coach) to that list. I don't think any GB coach came into the job with higher expectations and went out so disappointing. I'm Bart's biggest fan as a player. I'd rank him as in the top QB's of all time. But as a coach he sucked.

As much as he sucked, i think Starr was just the symptom of the real problem...the Packer org sucked.

Their drafting policy, their salaries for players, etc.

I don't remember when it was exactly, but i recall that the pack in the mid or late 80s had like 50 mill in the bank, but wasn't spending it on players.

You can look at most businesses...and for sure in sports...that it all starts at the top.

Bucs improve the minute Culverhouse is gone...and they start spending

Bills improve when Ralph Wilson finally realizes that you gotta pay players...think about all the great Bill players he let go.

Lions...the fords are the worst owners in the NFL.

You're probably onto something there. I don't know to much about the Packer organ. then, but it always seemed that Starr was out on an island.

Of course, he was the GM too, so he bears a lot of the blame himself.

I don't think he could transfer that field "generalship" to team management. But I couldn't give you any specifics. It's just a general impression.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

John Hadl
Dan Devine
Forest Gregg (the coach)

So true. And you can add Bart Starr (the coach) to that list. I don't think any GB coach came into the job with higher expectations and went out so disappointing. I'm Bart's biggest fan as a player. I'd rank him as in the top QB's of all time. But as a coach he sucked.

As much as he sucked, i think Starr was just the symptom of the real problem...the Packer org sucked.

Their drafting policy, their salaries for players, etc.

I don't remember when it was exactly, but i recall that the pack in the mid or late 80s had like 50 mill in the bank, but wasn't spending it on players.

You can look at most businesses...and for sure in sports...that it all starts at the top.

Bucs improve the minute Culverhouse is gone...and they start spending

Bills improve when Ralph Wilson finally realizes that you gotta pay players...think about all the great Bill players he let go.

Lions...the fords are the worst owners in the NFL.

You're probably onto something there. I don't know to much about the Packer organ. then, but it always seemed that Starr was out on an island.

Of course, he was the GM too, so he bears a lot of the blame himself.

I don't think he could transfer that field "generalship" to team management. But I couldn't give you any specifics. It's just a general impression.

I'm not disagreeing. We all wanted him to succeed, but his teams just never really could get it together.

GM: You are right, but again, i think he had to listen to upper management about who to draft. Not saying he would have done fine if left alone.

But, the org and it's philosophy sucked. Sucked so bad that they lost players to the CFL...say hello to Bruce Clark.

I just laugh at the criticism of TT. My god, we had the 4th pick in the draft and we couldn't sign him...and he went to the Toronto Argonauts rather than play for us.

I distinctly recall that we would rather draft good guys than so so guys who could actually play football.

Let me put it to you this way...the packer org of then would have never drafted Favre and certainly wouldn't have traded for a known party boy.

[gex]

I was sure Darrell Thompson was going to be all world.

I thought he was on the verge of becoming great. I seem to recall that he had an upright style running position.

Leshon Johnson, wasn't he like the fastest guy on the team/league, but had vision problems and had laser surgery to repair it?

[woodbuck27]

Mike Hawkins

You gave me this name.

Justin Harrell. Maybe I'm wrong but doesn't he have all the time TT does? Is everyone 'really pleased' with AJ Hawk? Darren Colledge? I'll stop there.

[SkinBasket]

Mike Hawkins

You gave me this name.

Justin Harrell. Maybe I'm wrong but doesn't he have all the time TT does? Is everyone 'really pleased' with AJ Hawk? Darren Colledge? I'll stop there.

This is about players you rooted for and/or liked that failed or underperformed, not players you bitched about from the day they were drafted.

[SkinBasket]

Leshon Johnson, wasn't he like the fastest guy on the team/league, but had vision problems and had laser surgery to repair it?

I also heard he was borderline retarded. Needed a lot of help learning anything beyond "run left" or "run right."