Favre and the Hall of Fame: What's Your Reaction?

[Gunakor]

He's earned his way into the HOF. Unless he does something that would seriously hurt the game itself, like Pete Rose in baseball for example, I don't see any reason why he shouldn't be there. His recent antics have cast a shadow over his personal character, but do not take away from his career accomplishments as a football player. He belongs in the HOF.

[Gunakor]

Do you routinely go in to work voluntarily when you don't have to when you won't get paid for putting in the extra time? If the answer is No, once again you're no better of a person than Brett Favre.

Partial, Favre has a problem showing up for mandatory work, even when he IS getting paid for it. You know, minicamps, OTA's, etc. I may not have put in as much voluntary work as Favre has, but I've always shown up for the mandatory stuff in life. And I don't get paid millions of dollars to do it. Using this example specifically, I don't see how this makes Favre a better person than I.

[Fritz]

seems like a bit of a silly poll - of course he's a hall of famer. Ty Cobb is a hall of famer and he was a notorious ass hat. Heck, Pete Rose should be in the hall of fame.

Brett Favre is a guy weighted down in a morass of pride, uncertainty, and brittleness. That wouldn't get anyone left out of the hall of fame. Well, maybe Jack Morris. But he treated the media badly and is being punished for it.

[Scott Campbell]

seems like a bit of a silly poll - of course he's a hall of famer. Ty Cobb is a hall of famer and he was a notorious ass hat. Heck, Pete Rose should be in the hall of fame.

Brett Favre is a guy weighted down in a morass of pride, uncertainty, and brittleness. That wouldn't get anyone left out of the hall of fame. Well, maybe Jack Morris. But he treated the media badly and is being punished for it.

Jack Morris isn't in the HOF?

Man, it's hard to get in the baseball HOF.

[LP]

If my employer had paid me $100mil over the course of 16 years, I think I would do just about anything they asked me to. I'd be mighty fucking grateful.

If I had that kind of money, I sure as hell wouldn't be trying to go back to work!

[DonHutson]

What the hell does any of this have to do with the Hall of Fame? He earned his place there 10 years ago.

[mraynrand]

If he plays for the Vikings this year, I will boo and heckle him as though he were Randy Moss, but I will be front and center for the HOF induction. My view is that Favre is one of the top 5 QBs of all time, and he played for my favorite team of all time - in any sport. Gotta love that! There was nothing so exciting as watching Favre play for a decade and a half. Come HOF time I will be thinking about the Superbowl appearances and a victory, all the playoff wins, the last minute drives to beat Minnesota, the crazy plays like against the Rams in 1996, the great plays, the complete domination of the Bears at Lambeau South, Bear Hugging Kevin Greene after faking him out of his shorts in a 1999 game against Carolina, throwing snowballs in the Divisional game v. Seattle, The fireman lifts of his WRs, the crazy runs, playing with a broken thumb, playing with a taped ankle, the 40 yard passes on a rope running to his left, stiff-arming LBs, etc. etc. Love that Favre!

[Packers4Ever]

If he plays for the Vikings this year, I will boo and heckle him as though he were Randy Moss, but I will be front and center for the HOF induction. My view is that Favre is one of the top 5 QBs of all time, and he played for my favorite team of all time - in any sport. Gotta love that! There was nothing so exciting as watching Favre play for a decade and a half. Come HOF time I will be thinking about the Superbowl appearances and a victory, all the playoff wins, the last minute drives to beat Minnesota, the crazy plays like against the Rams in 1996, the great plays, the complete domination of the Bears at Lambeau South, Bear Hugging Kevin Greene after faking him out of his shorts in a 1999 game against Carolina, throwing snowballs in the Divisional game v. Seattle, The fireman lifts of his WRs, the crazy runs, playing with a broken thumb, playing with a taped ankle, the 40 yard passes on a rope running to his left, stiff-arming LBs, etc. etc. Love that Favre!

How could you NOT love this guy when reminiscing on so many years
of enjoying watching him play. Sure, we haven't been too happy with the events of the past 2 years or so, but I think those good memories will come out ahead and many more of us will remember the good times.




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[Partial]

Partial, your analogy doesn't really work. Favre retired, then wanted to come back on his terms, the Packers still had his rights so it was their choice to do whatever they wanted. If you want to compare that to any regular work situation it would be a high up employee quitting, signing a non-compete agreement, and then wanting to come work for the company again. The company has no responsibility to take him back, and since they have the non-compete agreement they also have no responsibility to care what the ex-employee now wants. The company has every right to act in their own self-interests. It was the employee's mistake.

For someone who seems to care so much about personal responsibility and dealing with the situation one has gotten themself into, you seem to be awfully forgiving of Favre.

So you're telling me you wouldn't be upset? Technically what they did was legally fair, but that doesn't make it right. You would be absolutely pissed, whether you earned 100 mil or 100k.

Your analogy is horrible imo. There is only one NFL. He can't go play football for the Milwaukee Wave. A regular executive could go find a job at any number of industries. Non-compete's are to be enforced by the employer and they would have to be pursued in a court of law. Favre legally cannot even speak with these other teams without the Packers permission, who wouldn't grant it.

If my employer had paid me $100mil over the course of 16 years, I think I would do just about anything they asked me to. I'd be mighty fucking grateful.

He was paid fair market value. Money is absolutely irrelevant. If you had 100 million do you really think you'd care about the next 10 or 20?

[Partial]

Partial you also conveniently left out the Packers' retirement gift or merchandising offer or whatever the hell it was called. I can't even remember how much it was for now. *EDIT 20 million*

What does this have to do with anything? How many people get golden parachutes and return to work? A lot.

[Partial]

Do you routinely go in to work voluntarily when you don't have to when you won't get paid for putting in the extra time? If the answer is No, once again you're no better of a person than Brett Favre.

Partial, Favre has a problem showing up for mandatory work, even when he IS getting paid for it. You know, minicamps, OTA's, etc. I may not have put in as much voluntary work as Favre has, but I've always shown up for the mandatory stuff in life. And I don't get paid millions of dollars to do it. Using this example specifically, I don't see how this makes Favre a better person than I.

What mandatory stuff has he missed? You mean like playing in every game?!?

[Gunakor]

Do you routinely go in to work voluntarily when you don't have to when you won't get paid for putting in the extra time? If the answer is No, once again you're no better of a person than Brett Favre.

Partial, Favre has a problem showing up for mandatory work, even when he IS getting paid for it. You know, minicamps, OTA's, etc. I may not have put in as much voluntary work as Favre has, but I've always shown up for the mandatory stuff in life. And I don't get paid millions of dollars to do it. Using this example specifically, I don't see how this makes Favre a better person than I.

What mandatory stuff has he missed? You mean like playing in every game?!?

You know, minicamps, OTA's, etc.

[Partial]

Do you routinely go in to work voluntarily when you don't have to when you won't get paid for putting in the extra time? If the answer is No, once again you're no better of a person than Brett Favre.

Partial, Favre has a problem showing up for mandatory work, even when he IS getting paid for it. You know, minicamps, OTA's, etc. I may not have put in as much voluntary work as Favre has, but I've always shown up for the mandatory stuff in life. And I don't get paid millions of dollars to do it. Using this example specifically, I don't see how this makes Favre a better person than I.

What mandatory stuff has he missed? You mean like playing in every game?!?

You know, minicamps, OTA's, etc.

He was given off by a coach for minicamp. Would you go in to work on Memorial day if your boss gave you off? OTAs are optional. Chuck Woodson did them for the first time in his career last year, yet he never gets flamed for it. I think it's pretty unfair to judge a guy for not going to optional work.

[Gunakor]

Do you routinely go in to work voluntarily when you don't have to when you won't get paid for putting in the extra time? If the answer is No, once again you're no better of a person than Brett Favre.

Partial, Favre has a problem showing up for mandatory work, even when he IS getting paid for it. You know, minicamps, OTA's, etc. I may not have put in as much voluntary work as Favre has, but I've always shown up for the mandatory stuff in life. And I don't get paid millions of dollars to do it. Using this example specifically, I don't see how this makes Favre a better person than I.

What mandatory stuff has he missed? You mean like playing in every game?!?

You know, minicamps, OTA's, etc.

He was given off by a coach for minicamp. Would you go in to work on Memorial day if your boss gave you off? OTAs are optional. Chuck Woodson did them for the first time in his career last year, yet he never gets flamed for it. I think it's pretty unfair to judge a guy for not going to optional work.

Okay, mandatory is the wrong word. What's the word for something the rest of your team is doing and you are not?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Do you routinely go in to work voluntarily when you don't have to when you won't get paid for putting in the extra time? If the answer is No, once again you're no better of a person than Brett Favre.

Partial, Favre has a problem showing up for mandatory work, even when he IS getting paid for it. You know, minicamps, OTA's, etc. I may not have put in as much voluntary work as Favre has, but I've always shown up for the mandatory stuff in life. And I don't get paid millions of dollars to do it. Using this example specifically, I don't see how this makes Favre a better person than I.

What mandatory stuff has he missed? You mean like playing in every game?!?

You know, minicamps, OTA's, etc.

He was given off by a coach for minicamp. Would you go in to work on Memorial day if your boss gave you off? OTAs are optional. Chuck Woodson did them for the first time in his career last year, yet he never gets flamed for it. I think it's pretty unfair to judge a guy for not going to optional work.

Brett is the QB. Brett is the leader.

Leaders don't ask for or take off days.