VICK DA GREAT

[Scott Campbell]

What should be obvious to everyone is that Favre's entire off season in 2008 was orchestrated in an attempt to play for someone else in 2008, not for the Packers. In fact, it is my position that he had hoped to leave Green Bay for at least a couple season. He tried to force the Packers to do it on his terms in 2008, but was unable to. This season he was able to force the Jets to give him free agent status, so he did.

I agree with you. I also think this was supported by his saying he'd comeback in March, and then double clutching when the Packer said "great - here's your old job back". He quickly retreated back into retired status.

And then there was the August meeting in Green Bay that left McCarthy seething. Not much as been said as to why coach got so angry, but I suspect that he realized that Brett was just wasting every bodies time with a bunch of public posturing to gain his release, and had no intention of playing for or helping the Packers.

I agree with you that it feels obvious, though it can't be substantiated fully.

[Chevelle2]

Im curious what makes you guys think he wanted to play elsewhere. He wanted to come back to Green Bay, no?

i think AFTER they said "no" he wanted to go elsewhere, but even before then?

[Scott Campbell]

Im curious what makes you guys think he wanted to play elsewhere. He wanted to come back to Green Bay, no?

i think AFTER they said "no" he wanted to go elsewhere, but even before then?

Yeah, I don't believe he wanted to play in Green Bay for some time. I'm not certain of his reasons, but suspect that Ted fulfilling his duty of preparing the franchise for life after Favre was hard for him to deal with.

[Chevelle2]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/52721017.html

"I think guys would open their arms up to him and respect him like a normal man," Driver said. "I don't know if you can worry about all the issues that would happen behind it because you can't predict what will happen. I don't think it's a risk. If he's a great player, you bring him in, and if it works out, it works out. If it doesn't, you move forward. We're going to keep playing football regardless of the situation."

"It's going to come down to this," said linebacker Nick Barnett, who is in favor of bringing in Vick. "Are you going to give him a shot regardless of what PETA people are going to be out there? Ted is no (coward). There were a lot of people protesting Brett Favre not being back and he pulled the trigger. He did what he believed in, and we've got A-Rod as our quarterback. A great quarterback.

"He's going to make the right decision. He's not going to shrimp out because of someone else's opinion. If he thinks it's going to help this team, he's going to pull that trigger."

Woodson said he does not condone what Vick did, but he said he has no preconceived notions about what kind of person he is or whether he would be poison in the Packers' locker room. As a player who was outspoken during the offseason about adding free agents, Woodson said he would support adding Vick to the roster.

Nick Collins also said, in his lockerroom interview on packers.com, the team would "accept him with open arms."

Quoting incase any one missed it.

[Scott Campbell]

Driver nailed it. If it works out, you win. If it doesn't work out you move forward without the guy. He's not getting pursued because of the freak show he'd potentially bring with him. But I'm wondering if things are beginning to die down, and that concern might be much ado about nothing.


We are 1 Aaron Rodgers injury away from a wasted season. Vick would give the team a fighting chance if that happened.

[MichiganPackerFan]

How would Moss have helped our 13-3 Packers that year?? How would he have beaten the Giants?

He couldn't beat the Giants in the SB.

The only thing that would have won that game was McCarthy not panicking and giving up on the run. Pound the ball in Lambeau in December. When the defense is told to drop 11 into coverage on every play(kidding on the '11' of course) nothing good can happen.

[Patler]

Im curious what makes you guys think he wanted to play elsewhere. He wanted to come back to Green Bay, no?

i think AFTER they said "no" he wanted to go elsewhere, but even before then?

Favre has suggested for two off seasons that "maybe the Packers should or would release him.

As Scott said, he double-clutched when the Packers seemed OK when he first wanted to return.

"Just release me" was a standard byline to every interview he gave after he became serious about returning.

If he really wanted to comeback, he would have simply shut-up and been at camp.

[]{ilr]3]

We are 1 Aaron Rodgers injury away from a wasted season. Vick would give the team a fighting chance if that happened.

This is what I keep thinking and makes me really like the idea of Vick signing with the Packers.

I would think Vick would like the idea of signing with the Packers as well. It gives him a great window to get back into the league with a respected team (By that I mean Not the Raiders) even for just a one year deal.

[Rastak]

{ilr]3]

We are 1 Aaron Rodgers injury away from a wasted season. Vick would give the team a fighting chance if that happened.

This is what I keep thinking and makes me really like the idea of Vick signing with the Packers.

I would think Vick would like the idea of signing with the Packers as well. It gives him a great window to get back into the league with a respected team (By that I mean Not the Raiders) even for just a one year deal.

I wasn't impressed with his QB ability when he was a full time football player....now that he's been out a couple years and has to learn a new offense....I wouldn't be afraid in the least as a opponent to see him trot out onto the field.

[Rastak]

Anyway, the latest from PFT.com

Report: High level Packer visited Vick

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 8, 2009 3:01 PM ET
It's possible, even likely, that a handful of NFL teams have extensively researched the possibility of adding Michael Vick.

The Packers, though, are the only ones we know about for sure. And their interest appears more than cursory.

Charles Robinson of Yahoo! Sports said in a recent interview that the Packers sent a "high-level" personnel man to meet with Vick. (Robinson confirmed the news to PFT.)

An interview would appear to be taking a step beyond due diligence, but Tom Silverstein of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel credits sources that say a signing isn't imminent.

At this stage, Green Bay's interest is in a "holding pattern." Silverstein writes there is no reason to believe that the Packers "will do anything beyond discussing the pros and cons of bringing in one of the most dynamic offensive players of his time."

That could change depending on how Green Bay's young backup quarterbacks develop.

There have been mixed reviews regarding '08 seventh-round pick Matt Flynn's development, but second-round selection Brian Brohm has a lot to prove. He had a miserable rookie year, and there hasn't been any progress reported this offseason. Flynn looks like the backup.

If the Packers aren't comfortable with Flynn and Brohm after watching them in the preseason, they will be well equipped to make a decision about adding Vick.

Vick clearly would have no shot at ever supplanting Aaron Rodgers, but it would be a chance to get back into the NFL and rehab his image. The Packers wouldn't enter into such an agreement lightly, knowing that it could cause a distraction to the team.

Still, the players seem supportive of the move.

After saying that Aaron Rodgers was the clear leader of the team, wideout Donald Driver said that "guys would open their arms up to [Vick] and respect him like a normal man."

Cornerback Charles Woodson says the team is was built to handle any distraction after the Brett Favre saga and sounded open to the possibility. Safety Nick Collins agrees, and is in favor of bringing in Vick.

Collins points out that G.M. Ted Thompson made the unpopular decision to roll with Aaron Rodgers, and it proved correct.

"[Thompson is] going to make the right decision. He's not going to shrimp out because of someone else's opinion. If he thinks it's going to help this team, he's going to pull that trigger," Collins said.

We agree with Collins. If the Packers truly felt that Vick was be the best option available for their backup spot, they have prepared themselves enough to make the move.

Flynn could put the issue to rest with a monster preseason, but the Packers can't be ruled out as a potential Vick landing spot.

It looks like that's the closest thing to a positive NFL job lead that Vick has.

[Fritz]

What I found interesting about the players' quotes is that two players at least - Collins and, I think, Woodson - both said that Thompson's not a coward when it comes to making unpopular moves, and both said he'd sign Vick if he thought it was right for the team. And one of them said - or one player said - that the Favre thing worked out great for the Packers because they have a "great" quarterback now.

These types of comments make me wonder if - and it's speculation, yes - maybe the players were glad Thompson finally called Brett's bluff.

[woodbuck27]

Im curious what makes you guys think he wanted to play elsewhere. He wanted to come back to Green Bay, no?

i think AFTER they said "no" he wanted to go elsewhere, but even before then?

Yeah, I don't believe he wanted to play in Green Bay for some time. I'm not certain of his reasons, but suspect that Ted fulfilling his duty of preparing the franchise for life after Favre was hard for him to deal with.

Tensions had to be high between Favre and TT after TT muffed the possible Randy Moss acquisition. Favre certainly wanted Moss as a target. Also the team that Favre knew in terms of personnel was being rapidly depleted.

Yet when push came to shove it's my best impression that Brett Favre wanted to continue in Green Bay and certainly based on 2007 as our starting QB. The decision to go with ARod was certainly a hard blow to Favre. TT decided that it was Aaron Rodgers turn. Consequently Favre most certainly wanted out. The clash of egos between Favre and TT took a new twist.

The thing we don't know yet is when did TT and MM go to Favre with the news that he would be our back-up? Therein lies the real story.

GO PACK GO!

[Chevelle2]

Most overblown story: The Michael Vick soap opera lingered, but the fact is he’s not coming to Green Bay. I wish Ted Thompson would say that publicly, but in staying consistent with his policy of not revealing information about personnel decisions, Thompson allowed this tall tale to fester. Some media outlets tried hard to run with this story, but it’s all sizzle and no steak. Yes, the Packers checked Vick out like every other potential free agent, but no, they aren’t serious about signing him.

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20090808/PKR07/90808059/1058/PKR01/Hits--misses-from-first-week-of-camp&referrer=NEWSFRONTCAROUSEL

FWIW ^


I don't know how reliable this guy is but he doesn't really say much other than "No." Not even a source or anything. At this point, I have heard more about how we are interested vs we are not.

[retailguy]

We are 1 Aaron Rodgers injury away from a wasted season.

Nah. We've got great depth. Experience is over-rated. Let the young guys play. I think you'll be surprised. They can win a few.

[pbmax]

Most overblown story: The Michael Vick soap opera lingered, but the fact is he’s not coming to Green Bay. I wish Ted Thompson would say that publicly, but in staying consistent with his policy of not revealing information about personnel decisions, Thompson allowed this tall tale to fester. Some media outlets tried hard to run with this story, but it’s all sizzle and no steak. Yes, the Packers checked Vick out like every other potential free agent, but no, they aren’t serious about signing him.

http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20090808/PKR07/90808059/1058/PKR01/Hits--misses-from-first-week-of-camp&referrer=NEWSFRONTCAROUSEL

FWIW ^


I don't know how reliable this guy is but he doesn't really say much other than "No." Not even a source or anything. At this point, I have heard more about how we are interested vs we are not.

That story is two days old and Vandermause does not mention sending someone to interview/review Vick in person. Vandermause might know something we don't, but its not evident from his write-up.