Donald Driver unhappy. Wants a new deal.

[Bretsky]

Good point, Patler, but this brings up an interesting dilemma. If you're the Packers, and you have a core of young, up-and-coming receivers, do you extend Driver?

I might try to play the middle - maybe add a year so he could play into 2011. It may not badd up to the five years Driver wants, but it's an extra year onto the two more he has. I don't think you can do much more than that - do you want a 36 year old receiver with another two or three years on a contract? Probably not.

That's really the question here. Where did I hear he was trade bait in the off-season?

packerchatters.com ??

[Bretsky]

And let the record show that 2/3 of all Favre threads are started by Favre lovers ( http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/vi...7631&start=160 )

Also, 007 is numero uno in line to bitch when Favre makes his next big screw up that everyone wants to talk about (next time he gets in front of the microphone if anyone enjoys good prognostication). She comes in on her broomstick (and everyone sniffs her butt because she has a girl avatar), complaining about how nobody can drop the Favre issue (only convenient when Favre is burying himself with idiocy). Then, at dead times like this, she's here stirring the pot in a Driver thread.

I have no complaint. I enjoy the Favre stuff, 'specially since he's getting what he deserves lately. I'd just like it to be noted, you know, to keep the witch from her typical manipulation. Remember, she only talks about Favre and gambling lines in the Packer room and it's a great majority Favre.

Dude; I'm totally LOST in your math and I can even use the HP calculator

Did you look at all the anti's who started individual threads ?

[Lurker64]

Am I the only one who is confused as to what exactly Driver would be unhappy about concerning his contract?

Some facts:
1) Donald Driver is 34 years old.
2) Donald Driver has two years remaining on his contract; he is signed through 2010.
3) Between Salary and Bonuses, Driver will make $6.1 million in 2009 and $7 million in 2010.

Doesn't this seem, well, reasonable? He doesn't appear underpaid, he's not going into his last year of his contract, and he's not a spring chicken by any standards. Assuming what I've been lead to believe about DD that he's a hard worker and a team player and a selfless guy, "Driver holding out because he wants something done about his contract" doesn't make a lot of sense.

[SnakeLH2006]

Re: Donald Driver unhappy. Wants a new deal.

...but Donald Driver needs to remain a Packer for life.

That ain't how Ted rolls.

No doubt. I would love to see him remain a Packer for life...but emotions aside...Jennings deserves a deal before Driver.

Yep that ain't how Ted rolls. Snake loves DD but the hell if a 34-year old WR is gonna get a good deal before GJ. Ridiculous...and with this economy the hell if an old ass WR is gonna get more money. Snake likes DD, but the hell if we don't have some replacements for him. Can't believe this news. This will only turn out bad for Donald.

[Gunakor]

Re: Donald Driver unhappy. Wants a new deal.

...but Donald Driver needs to remain a Packer for life.

That ain't how Ted rolls.

No doubt. I would love to see him remain a Packer for life...but emotions aside...Jennings deserves a deal before Driver.

Yep that ain't how Ted rolls. Snake loves DD but the hell if a 34-year old WR is gonna get a good deal before GJ. Ridiculous...and with this economy the hell if an old ass WR is gonna get more money. Snake likes DD, but the hell if we don't have some replacements for him. Can't believe this news. This will only turn out bad for Donald.

The Packers have already initiated conversations with Driver's agent about a pay raise. Nothing is guaranteed, of course, but his value to this team is such that something will get done. As was mentioned, he is already making a pretty good chunk of change as is. So I don't think it's going to be anything extraoridnary.

Driver has stated his desire to play another 4 or 5 years, so this might be an extension to cover those remaining years. Maybe a small raise in base salary, a couple added years, new incentives perhaps. The new guarantees could be front loaded on this year's books with enough to spare this year to resign Jennings, and then Driver could finish up the remaining years at a reasonable base salary (lower cap number) freeing up money to extend other players in coming seasons. I'd be fine with that.

[Fritz]

And let the record show that 2/3 of all Favre threads are started by Favre lovers ( http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/vi...7631&start=160 )

Also, 007 is numero uno in line to bitch when Favre makes his next big screw up that everyone wants to talk about (next time he gets in front of the microphone if anyone enjoys good prognostication). She comes in on her broomstick (and everyone sniffs her butt because she has a girl avatar), complaining about how nobody can drop the Favre issue (only convenient when Favre is burying himself with idiocy). Then, at dead times like this, she's here stirring the pot in a Driver thread.

I have no complaint. I enjoy the Favre stuff, 'specially since he's getting what he deserves lately. I'd just like it to be noted, you know, to keep the witch from her typical manipulation. Remember, she only talks about Favre and gambling lines in the Packer room and it's a great majority Favre.

"Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life." ~Eric Hoffer

JH, that's not just a "girl avatar" that's a hot girl avatar. The hotness of her avataricity is such that I myself will gladly line up for a sniff or two.

Thus my own avatar - I thought that Ted's stark demeanor, combined with the austere matrix-type clothing, would intimidate people. But it doesn't seem to be working for me.

As for DD, I hope Gun is right and a year or two extension front loaded - more symbolic than substantive - might assauge DD's concerns and put the team back on keel - once Jennings et al are re-signed/extended.

[SnakeLH2006]

And let the record show that 2/3 of all Favre threads are started by Favre lovers ( http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/vi...7631&start=160 )

Also, 007 is numero uno in line to bitch when Favre makes his next big screw up that everyone wants to talk about (next time he gets in front of the microphone if anyone enjoys good prognostication). She comes in on her broomstick (and everyone sniffs her butt because she has a girl avatar), complaining about how nobody can drop the Favre issue (only convenient when Favre is burying himself with idiocy). Then, at dead times like this, she's here stirring the pot in a Driver thread.

I have no complaint. I enjoy the Favre stuff, 'specially since he's getting what he deserves lately. I'd just like it to be noted, you know, to keep the witch from her typical manipulation. Remember, she only talks about Favre and gambling lines in the Packer room and it's a great majority Favre.

"Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life." ~Eric Hoffer

JH, that's not just a "girl avatar" that's a hot girl avatar. The hotness of her avataricity is such that I myself will gladly line up for a sniff or two.

Thus my own avatar - I thought that Ted's stark demeanor, combined with the austere matrix-type clothing, would intimidate people. But it doesn't seem to be working for me.

As for DD, I hope Gun is right and a year or two extension front loaded - more symbolic than substantive - might assauge DD's concerns and put the team back on keel - once Jennings et al are re-signed/extended.

I agree with Fritz and Gunakor...if it gives DD a chunk to happy this year but is really light in future years, sobeit. Just think it's a matter of time till DD flames out as it happens to old WR's (Joe Horn??).

Fritz...you still talking about hotness? Drew called me again, but I didn't read the voicemail yet, and the texts are getting out of control. Can you do anything to help Snake with this madness?

[Fritz]

Snake, I will be glad to console Drew over your rejections. Can you forward me her emails and cell numbers? She won't give them to me when I call out to her from the bushes near her house, and the police say I can't keep following her any more unless I stay at least a hundred yards away.

[SnakeLH2006]

Snake, I will be glad to console Drew over your rejections. Can you forward me her emails and cell numbers? She won't give them to me when I call out to her from the bushes near her house, and the police say I can't keep following her any more unless I stay at least a hundred yards away.

It's not that Snake didn't bang her Fritz, it's just that she gets all creepy trying to re-enact that whole Poison Ivy movie thing, and I'm trying to get it over so I can grab a cold beer and post on PackerRats.

She want's ya Fritz, she's trying hard to get. Try getting into her house and laying out some rose petals and candles. Snake bets she digs that.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Looks like Bedard and company are in the business of stirring the pot. I guess it's good for ratings.

The Packers have reworked Driver's contract twice. He's 34-years-old now and he makes good money.

BTW, Driver and his agent both said his contract is not an issue. Since when does an agent not at least make a case for his client to make money, if he were so disgruntled.

I'd be disappointed if Driver was disgruntled, but this could all be a fabrication. The sources in the Favre stories have been off so much that it's hard to believe anything nowadays.

[SnakeLH2006]

Looks like Bedard and company are in the business of stirring the pot. I guess it's good for ratings.

The Packers have reworked Driver's contract twice. He's 34-years-old now and he makes good money.

BTW, Driver and his agent both said his contract is not an issue. Since when does an agent not at least make a case for his client to make money, if he were so disgruntled.

I'd be disappointed if Driver was disgruntled, but this could all be a fabrication. The sources in the Favre stories have been off so much that it's hard to believe anything nowadays.

Harvey...You have one sturdy bird.