Vince Young Potentially on Trading Block?

[Bossman641]

He'll take whatever team he lands on to the playoffs. He's a playmaker.

And RG was wondering why people bash you.

You walk right into this shit. Whatever, I guess playmakers drafted 3rd overall with shitty stats, bad accuracy, and a horrible mental makeup get beat out by journeyman QB's all the time.

How many come from behind victories does he have using his arm or legs?

How many playoff appearances does he have?

I rest my case. Very tough to deny that he's a playmaker.

He wasn't the right player for Tennessee, that doesn't mean he's not a very good player. How you can watch a player and ignore such physical superiority to basically all of his peers is astounding. He's a man among boys from an athletic standpoint.

I already went through before and analyzed the stats for all of his games and the effect he had. You chose to ignore them.

I don't care how physically superior he is. When you can't throw a ball straight and lead a receiver it doesn't matter how gifted you are. When you add in the fact that he's a headcase, hard to see how that adds up to a playmaker. But I love how you make up excuses for Young and give him time, but are the exact opposite on Rodgers.

[SkinBasket]

This reminds me of when Tank used to rant about Joey Harrington being the chosen one.

This reminds me of the last time this argument stretched over a dozen pages.

[Partial]

He'll take whatever team he lands on to the playoffs. He's a playmaker.

And RG was wondering why people bash you.

You walk right into this shit. Whatever, I guess playmakers drafted 3rd overall with shitty stats, bad accuracy, and a horrible mental makeup get beat out by journeyman QB's all the time.

How many come from behind victories does he have using his arm or legs?

How many playoff appearances does he have?

I rest my case. Very tough to deny that he's a playmaker.

He wasn't the right player for Tennessee, that doesn't mean he's not a very good player. How you can watch a player and ignore such physical superiority to basically all of his peers is astounding. He's a man among boys from an athletic standpoint.

I already went through before and analyzed the stats for all of his games and the effect he had. You chose to ignore them.

I don't care how physically superior he is. When you can't throw a ball straight and lead a receiver it doesn't matter how gifted you are. When you add in the fact that he's a headcase, hard to see how that adds up to a playmaker. But I love how you make up excuses for Young and give him time, but are the exact opposite on Rodgers.

Stats? He, himself, and only himself, ran balls past every defender and in for touchdowns. How is that ignoring anything? You're clearly ignoring his superior physical talents.

Cannot compare him to Rodgers. Two different types of player. If I wanted a pure drop back passer, no way do I look at Young. Rodgers cannot compare athletically to Young. He's smaller, slower, less stout, less muscular, less moxy, less high profile wins.

Young deserves more time because he has been in the league less time than Rodgers, yet accomplished far more.

[SkinBasket]

Stats? Time on bench is not recorded. He, himself, and only himself, ran balls past every defender and in for touchdowns in his mind while watching the real players on the field playing football. How is that ignoring anything except reality? You're clearly ignoring his superior physical talents for watching football.

Fixed. You're welcome.

[Scott Campbell]

This reminds me of when Tank used to rant about Joey Harrington being the chosen one.

This reminds me of the last time this argument stretched over a dozen pages.

I was being held as a political prisoner at the time, and missed out on the excitement.

[SkinBasket]

This reminds me of when Tank used to rant about Joey Harrington being the chosen one.

This reminds me of the last time this argument stretched over a dozen pages.

I was being held as a political prisoner at the time, and missed out on the excitement.

http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/viewtopic.php?t=16355

I guess it only felt like 12 pages...

[Administrator]

I wonder who would be interested in Young at this point. Would be interesting to see if a change of scenery made any difference, or if like Harrington it just didn't matter.

You'd have to think that someone like San Francisco would look at him, but hey, who knows?

[Fritz]

If you are a team without a firm QB, he's worth a look, I would think. Heck, you could almost use him as an old college-type option QB. Screw it - send him out with an option to pitch out to a tailback or throw the ball on the run.

Might be worth a look.

[Partial]

I wonder who would be interested in Young at this point. Would be interesting to see if a change of scenery made any difference, or if like Harrington it just didn't matter.

You'd have to think that someone like San Francisco would look at him, but hey, who knows?

I don't really understand the Harrington comparisons. Young is a winner and has won at every level. Harrington never experienced any success as far as I know.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I don't really understand the Harrington comparisons. Young is a winner and has won at every level. Harrington never experienced any success as far as I know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Harrington

Harrington finished his college career with a 25-3 record (including bowl wins against 12th-ranked Texas and 3rd-ranked Colorado)

[Fritz]

I wonder who would be interested in Young at this point. Would be interesting to see if a change of scenery made any difference, or if like Harrington it just didn't matter.

You'd have to think that someone like San Francisco would look at him, but hey, who knows?

I don't really understand the Harrington comparisons. Young is a winner and has won at every level. Harrington never experienced any success as far as I know.

You heard it here first, folks: Vince Young is an official member of the DeShawn Wynn Fan Club, where Everyone's a Wynner!

[packers11]

He'll take whatever team he lands on to the playoffs. He's a playmaker.

How many come from behind victories does he have using his arm or legs?

How many playoff appearances does he have?

I rest my case. Very tough to deny that he's a playmaker.

Stats? He, himself, and only himself, ran balls past every defender and in for touchdowns. How is that ignoring anything? You're clearly ignoring his superior physical talents.

Cannot compare him to Rodgers. Two different types of player. If I wanted a pure drop back passer, no way do I look at Young. Rodgers cannot compare athletically to Young. He's smaller, slower, less stout, less muscular, less moxy, less high profile wins.

I have a lot of problems with your post(s) on this subject... Lets take Michael Vick for example, arguably the most dynamic football player ever at the QB position and he still couldn't get the falcons to the Superbowl... If Rodgers progresses into an elite "pure drop back passer" i'd defiantly choose him over Vince Young...

By your thinking ... Payton Manning and Tom Brady are both players that are not as physically gifted as Young therefore Young has more potential...

I'm not saying Young is bad, but give me a pure pocket passer over a scrambling erratic QB and there is a better chance my team will go the superbowl... Young's legs can only take him so far (see Vick), and if he can't progress his passing game and hit wide open receivers, he will be shut down quite easily if he makes it to the playoffs...

Vick was twice is fast as Young and had an arm like Favre but his accuracy and touch was terrible, therefor he couldn't progress... I don't care how "Big" or "strong" you are, if you can't pass the ball your bound to fail...

Partial, I usually don't mind your posts, but Rodgers only had one year to start and had over 4000 yards... You say Vince Young accomplished more in less time? HAHAHAHA... Vince Young had the opportunity to start for 3 friken years... A-Rod had one year...

By the way... What the f!ck did this guy accomplish, I actually thought he won a playoff game until I went and looked... He didn't even win a playoff game yet... Explain to me what this guy has accomplished... I know he had a huge run against the Texans to win the game, but without winning a playoff game, he doesn't have much leverage in any argument (see Romo)...

I just don't get your logic on this one...

[Fritz]

Partial, what do you mean by "less moxie"? What exactly is "moxie" to you?

[Bossman641]

Partial, what do you mean by "less moxie"? What exactly is "moxie" to you?

Per Webster's dictionary

moxie (mocks-ee)
- the ability to sit on the bench and cheer on your teammates

[cpk1994]

He'll take whatever team he lands on to the playoffs. He's a playmaker.

And RG was wondering why people bash you.

You walk right into this shit. Whatever, I guess playmakers drafted 3rd overall with shitty stats, bad accuracy, and a horrible mental makeup get beat out by journeyman QB's all the time.

How many come from behind victories does he have using his arm or legs?

How many playoff appearances does he have?

I rest my case. Very tough to deny that he's a playmaker.

He wasn't the right player for Tennessee, that doesn't mean he's not a very good player. How you can watch a player and ignore such physical superiority to basically all of his peers is astounding. He's a man among boys from an athletic standpoint.

How many playoff wins does he have. ZERO. Vince Young got beat out by Kerry Collins. You have no case.