Cutler an elite QB?

[Pacopete4]

Paco - edit your post before one of those clowns sees it. Embarrassing.

Why? Cuz I'm not shooting off my mouth about Cutler not succeeding before he ever plays a down for the Bears? Talk about a bunch of idiots..

You're a Packer fan. Quit sniveling and act like one.

Packers fan.. yes


But I also think this was a great move by the Bears.. it could be one of those things that piss us off for years...

They way overpaid. If Pat Bowlen had a conscience, he'd split some of those picks with the Redskins. Snyder and Co. really drove up the bidding.

you wouldnt feel that way if you were a Bears fan... they've never had a quality to really speak of.. I have a feeling most are happy in Chi Town

[Patler]

this shit talking about Cutler could get rough if he beats the shit outta us this year... hope some of you can get the foot outta ur mouth if it happens

Well, the Bears could beat up on the Packers this year, maybe because of Cutler, maybe for other reasons. The Packers have not played the Bears real well consistently since Lovie made it a franchise goal to beat the Packers.

If Cutler becomes a star, so be it. That doesn't mean he was a star up until now, or that the criticism of his play until now are not valid. I, for one, have no problem acknowledging greatness in players on other teams.

[Pacopete4]

this shit talking about Cutler could get rough if he beats the shit outta us this year... hope some of you can get the foot outta ur mouth if it happens

Well, the Bears could beat up on the Packers this year, maybe because of Cutler, maybe for other reasons. The Packers have not played the Bears real well consistently since Lovie made it a franchise goal to beat the Packers.

If Cutler becomes a star, so be it. That doesn't mean he was a star up until now, or that the criticism of his play until now are not valid. I, for one, have no problem acknowledging greatness in players on other teams.

ya but you're one of the few level headed ones on these boards...

[Packnut]

Cutler

Paco - edit your post before one of those clowns sees it. Embarrassing.

Why? Cuz I'm not shooting off my mouth about Cutler not succeeding before he ever plays a down for the Bears? Talk about a bunch of idiots..

You're a Packer fan. Quit sniveling and act like one.

Packers fan.. yes


But I also think this was a great move by the Bears.. it could be one of those things that piss us off for years...

They way overpaid. If Pat Bowlen had a conscience, he'd split some of those picks with the Redskins. Snyder and Co. really drove up the bidding.

you wouldnt feel that way if you were a Bears fan... they've never had a quality to really speak of.. I have a feeling most are happy in Chi Town

Happy would be an understatement. Bear fans are on cloud nine right now. Cutler is being portrayed as the second coming!

[Scott Campbell]

I, for one, have no problem acknowledging greatness in players on other teams.

Well I sure do when it comes to the Bears. I'll do it. But I won't like it one bit.

[HarveyWallbangers]

This is not the picture being painted today. What happened?

I have no knowledge on whether Cutler is a leader not, but usually money and fame end up being the culprit. Maybe the guy is getting too big for his britches--as my Grandpa used to say.

[sharpe1027]

this shit talking about Cutler could get rough if he beats the shit outta us this year... hope some of you can get the foot outta ur mouth if it happens

Relax there Paco, discussing facts surrounding past play isn't shit talking. I think most people agree that Culter *might* end up being a very good QB. That doesn't mean that there are plenty of reasons to think he might not.

Even if the Packers lose to the bears, Culter's win-loss record from 2004-2008 will remain the same, and he will still have had some questionalble actions while in Denver. No need remove ones foot for mentioning facts and forming an opinion based upon those facts.

[Patler]

I, for one, have no problem acknowledging greatness in players on other teams.

Well I sure do when it comes to the Bears. I'll do it. But I won't like it one bit.

It's easier after they have retired!

[Scott Campbell]

Re: Cutler

From what I've seen, the media is already laying the ground-work for the "no WR's excuse". They are pushing hard for PB despite his legal problems.

Plax would fill a deep void for the Bears. They really haven't had anyone that could teach gun safety since they got rid of Tank Johnson.

[Cleft Crusty]

Cutler is no more an elite QB than I am an elite columnist.

[pbmax]

Rk 	Name/Team 	............Pct 	Yds/Att. RTG	IntRate	TDRate
1	Gus Frerotte, Min...... 	59.10	7.17	73.70	4.98%	3.99%
2	Brett Favre, NYJ....... 	65.70	6.65	81.00	4.21%	4.21%
3	Ben Roethlisberger, Pit 	59.90	7.04	80.10	3.20%	3.62%
4	Dan Orlovsky, Det...... 	56.10	6.34	72.60	3.14%	3.14%
5	Tony Romo, Dal......... 	61.30	7.66	91.40	3.11%	5.78%
6	Marc Bulger, StL....... 	57.00	6.18	71.40	2.95%	2.50%
7	Jay Cutler, Den........ 	62.30	7.35	86.00	2.92%	4.06%
8	Jake Delhomme, Car..... 	59.40	7.94	84.70	2.90%	3.62%
9	Tyler Thigpen, KC...... 	54.80	6.21	76.00	2.86%	4.29%
10	Derek Anderson, Cle... 	50.20	5.71	66.50	2.83%	3.18%
11	Joe Flacco, Bal....... 	60.00	6.94	80.30	2.80%	3.27%
12	Shaun Hill, SF........ 	62.80	7.10	87.50	2.78%	4.51%
13	Drew Brees, NO........ 	65.00	7.98	96.20	2.68%	5.35%
14	Trent Edwards, Buf.... 	65.50	7.22	85.40	2.67%	2.94%
15	Matt Schaub, Hou...... 	66.10	8.01	92.70	2.63%	3.95%
16	Kyle Orton, Chi....... 	58.50	6.39	79.60	2.58%	3.87%
17	Matt Ryan, Atl........ 	61.10	7.93	87.70	2.53%	3.69%
18	David Garrard, Jac.... 	62.60	6.77	81.70	2.43%	2.80%
19	Aaron Rodgers, GB..... 	63.60	7.53	93.80	2.43%	5.22%
20	Ryan Fitzpatrick, Cin. 	59.40	5.12	70.00	2.42%	2.15%
21	Kurt Warner, Ari...... 	67.10	7.66	96.90	2.34%	5.02%
22	Philip Rivers, SD..... 	65.30	8.39	105.50	2.30%	7.11%
23	JaMarcus Russell, Oak. 	53.80	6.58	77.10	2.17%	3.53%
24	Peyton Manning, Ind... 	66.80	7.21	95.00	2.16%	4.86%
25	Matt Cassel, NE....... 	63.40	7.16	89.40	2.13%	4.07%
26	Eli Manning, NYG...... 	60.30	6.76	86.40	2.09%	4.38%
27	Donovan McNabb, Phi... 	60.40	6.86	86.40	1.93%	4.03%
28	Kerry Collins, Ten.... 	58.30	6.45	80.20	1.69%	2.89%
29	Jeff Garcia, TB....... 	64.90	7.21	90.20	1.60%	3.19%
30	Chad Pennington, Mia.. 	67.40	7.67	97.40	1.47%	3.99%
31	Seneca Wallace, Sea... 	58.30	6.33	87.00	1.24%	4.55%
32	Jason Campbell, Was... 	62.30	6.41	84.30	1.19%	2.57%

[Freak Out]

Cutler is not an elite QB until he wins consistently for a few years and leads his team to the playoffs more than once.

[cpk1994]

this shit talking about Cutler could get rough if he beats the shit outta us this year... hope some of you can get the foot outta ur mouth if it happens

Based on the last time the Packers went against Cutler, I wouldn't be worried about Cutler at all.

[cpk1994]

Re: Cutler

Paco - edit your post before one of those clowns sees it. Embarrassing.

Why? Cuz I'm not shooting off my mouth about Cutler not succeeding before he ever plays a down for the Bears? Talk about a bunch of idiots..

You're a Packer fan. Quit sniveling and act like one.

Packers fan.. yes


But I also think this was a great move by the Bears.. it could be one of those things that piss us off for years...

They way overpaid. If Pat Bowlen had a conscience, he'd split some of those picks with the Redskins. Snyder and Co. really drove up the bidding.

you wouldnt feel that way if you were a Bears fan... they've never had a quality to really speak of.. I have a feeling most are happy in Chi Town

Happy would be an understatement. Bear fans are on cloud nine right now. Cutler is being portrayed as the second coming!

After having to deal with Grossman for years, just about any QB would be portrayed as the second coming.

[cpk1994]

Paco - edit your post before one of those clowns sees it. Embarrassing.

Why? Cuz I'm not shooting off my mouth about Cutler not succeeding before he ever plays a down for the Bears? Talk about a bunch of idiots..

You're a Packer fan. Quit sniveling and act like one.

Let's be fair SC. You can't act like something you are not.