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Assuming Jackson makes the team, who gets the nod as the 3rd RB? My vote for Lumpkin will trump Harlan's vote for Wynn.
Backup RBs All Have Their Strengths
Backup RBs All Have Their Strengths
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Lumpkin is my vote...
i think he has more upside but that doesn't mean i'm as down on wynn as i've read others are... just like lumpkin as the 3rd back... just one mans opinion...Now what y'all know about dem Texas boys
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I am hoping its Wynn, but the odds of him pulling together his head and his health are long. He has all the tools. I also wonder if the 3rd down back like Sutton would be a better addition, should he be more than serviceable.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.Comment
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I bashed wynn last preseason, but the time on the practice squad seems to have given him a taste of life without being handed things.
His upside is WAY higher than Lumpkin so I'm hoping he is over his PMS and ready to play like a man.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince LombardiComment
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Assuming Wynn finally gets it together, learns to play through a little pain, and capitalizes on his natural gifts, he's the pick.
Barring an uncharacteristic move by Wynn though...
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I will take my response in a little different direction. I think both should make the roster, with only one of the more pure fullback types.
Under Holmgren, Edger Bennett was the fullback in ’93 and ’94. When he moved to RB in ’95, Dorsey Levens was at FB. Both had a lot of carries as well as receptions. In Henderson’s early years, he would get a couple carries a game, as well as a few passes thrown his way. The fullback disappeared from the running game under Sherman. MM has said on several occasions that he wants to restore the FB as an option in the running game as well as the passing game. He could do that with combinations of Grant, Jackson, Wynn and Lumpkin in at the same time.
Hall hasn’t been able to avoid injuries, and can’t be counted on for special teams because of it. Besides, there will be more linebacker types for ST play anyway. Kuhn is the proverbial “just a guy”. MM has trained the tight ends to line up as fullbacks. Let Hall, Kuhn and Johnson fight it out for one spot as the blocking specialist, which from the sounds of things should go to Johnson. Keep him and four others with more running potential. I can see more value in a fourth RB than a second FB. Chances are that one of Hall or Kuhn would be available to sign if Johnson were to be lost for an extended period of time anyway.Comment
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Patler, I'm totally with you on this one. One of the other coots (PB? KY?) and I (a middle-aged coot myself) have long agreed that it'd be nice to see the "other" running back get some carries or receptions in this offense. A few carries per game and a couple passes would, if nothing else, make the fake to the fullback slightly more effective.
So I say let Kuhn, Hall, and Johnson duke it out."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Is Wynn a better receiver? I havent seen enough of either guy to know for sure.Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967Comment
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I'm with Patler also, for some additional reasons.Originally posted by Fritz
I've been down on our fullback tandem for some time. Hall can't block consistently and gets hurt quite a bit. Kuhn is a fair blocker, but that's all he can do. Neither one of 'em had a good year on ST. One of these two guys is all we need.
Don Hutson was the other coot who urged a return to the "two back tandem" days. I'm now joining that chorus. The days of the monster FB constantly lead blocking has lost it's effectiveness. Every defense in the league has steeled itself against the one dimensional FB.
Having a 2 RB tandem would help the passing game to an extent. A quick back who could run an effective route in the seam would help against the modern zone. That backside seam can be exploited and most teams do that quite well vs the cover 2. MM is an offensive thinker that runs a lot of seam and shallow cross routes. 2 backs would give him another tool.
These two players at FB are both marginal guys. Keep the best 5 backs and let the chips fall where they may.Comment
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blocking is kind of a specialty. There really aren't many running backs who can do it, particularly in the running game.
Maybe they just need bigger shoulder pads and peanut-shaped helmets.
I don't know who that "other" running back his but he seems to lack public confidence.Comment
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I've never been a fan of DeShawn "Mommy it Hurts" Wynn, but if he can change his ways, I can change my tune.
Until then I'll take reliability over upside at the #3 spot. That would suggest Lumpkin, or maybe even one of the undrafted FA's. Nobody should be ruled out in June.#14Comment
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It is pretty tough for guys with a poor work ethic to change. Doesn't happen very often.Originally posted by bobblehead
Pretty sure that when the rubber meets the road, Wynn will prove he hasn't changed.
Agree about the upside, but I'd rather have a hard worker with limited upside, than a lazy guy with all the talent in the world.
My vote goes to Lumpkin, could change based on what we see and hear in the preseason.Comment
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What he said...Originally posted by retailguy
I also agree with the senior posters who advocate for a more pass-catching and ball-carrying role for the fullback.Comment
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Way to early to tell... When Lumpkin played, it looked like he had potential, same with Wynn... This poll would be perfect right before final cuts... (we'd get to view their preseason action)
I'll stay undecided for now ...Comment
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