Favre: the man, the legend. Are we having fun yet?

[MOBB DEEP]

maybe mid-season after everything blew over

of course in retrospect we can see that even more mess happened after the offer

but i dont know y they didnt wait a few months; wat was the hurry?

what was the motivation to do it RIGHT THEN?

It was one of a number of things the Packers did wrong prior to asking Ari Fleischer how to handle it.

ahhh, good point....i forgot about Ari

SC, ur an elephant

[Scott Campbell]

There would have been substantial profit had Favre taken that offer last summer.

Lets be honest - unless you've seen the financial models, you're making a speculative assumption.

Yes, but it is a pretty sound one.

I'm going to disagree with your assumption.

[Gunakor]

There would have been substantial profit had Favre taken that offer last summer.

Lets be honest - unless you've seen the financial models, you're making a speculative assumption.

Yes, but it is a pretty sound one.

I'm going to disagree with your assumption.

And you are entitled to.

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maybe mid-season after everything blew over

of course in retrospect we can see that even more mess happened after the offer

but i dont know y they didnt wait a few months; wat was the hurry?

Yeah, Murphy's gonna fly over to New York to visit with Favre after football practice with the Jets to offer him a marketing deal with the Packers.

Doesn't hold water.

They could have just waited until after he retired for good, whenever that is. I think making the offer while he was still technically property of the Packers was in an attempt to save the relationship. Had they waited, just not said or did anything for a couple years, Favre could have viewed that as the Packers just not being interested in it at all. At least this way the offer is out there, and hopefully when this circus ends he'll come back and take the offer. That's what is best for everyone IMO, as Brett gets to retire a Packer (not to mention an extra 20 million dollars richer) and the Packers make a good profit on Favre merchandise after his retirement.

LIKE I SAID, in retrospect we know alot of mes still transpired

but when murph went down there no one knew favre would become a jet

WHAT WAS THE HURRY

[Gunakor]

Just a thought, Scott, do you think that Murphy is stupid enough to offer a guy 20 million dollars to simply stop playing professional football, and would that be any less a blunder in today's economy?

[Scott Campbell]

ahhh, good point....i forgot about Ari

SC, ur an elephant

You can't forget about Ari. The entire front office immediately got on message, and there was no negative Packer press from that point forward as far as I can remember. That's when the tide of public sentiment started to further tilt against Brett - IMO. And it continues to tilt further from the polls I've seen.

[Scott Campbell]

Just a thought, Scott, do you think that Murphy is stupid enough to offer a guy 20 million dollars to simply stop playing professional football, and would that be any less a blunder in today's economy?

Was San Antonio dumb enough to build the Alamo dome?


I won't believer that was a sound financial decision until I see the math for myself. You have to sell way too many damned jerseys to make back $20M in profit.

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ahhh, good point....i forgot about Ari

SC, ur an elephant

You can't forget about Ari. The entire front office immediately got on message, and there was no negative Packer press from that point forward as far as I can remember. That's when the tide of public sentiment started to further tilt against Brett - IMO. And it continues to tilt further from the polls I've seen.

im disappointed u're not in the favre love VW wagon but thats spot on SC

[Gunakor]

maybe mid-season after everything blew over

of course in retrospect we can see that even more mess happened after the offer

but i dont know y they didnt wait a few months; wat was the hurry?

Yeah, Murphy's gonna fly over to New York to visit with Favre after football practice with the Jets to offer him a marketing deal with the Packers.

Doesn't hold water.

They could have just waited until after he retired for good, whenever that is. I think making the offer while he was still technically property of the Packers was in an attempt to save the relationship. Had they waited, just not said or did anything for a couple years, Favre could have viewed that as the Packers just not being interested in it at all. At least this way the offer is out there, and hopefully when this circus ends he'll come back and take the offer. That's what is best for everyone IMO, as Brett gets to retire a Packer (not to mention an extra 20 million dollars richer) and the Packers make a good profit on Favre merchandise after his retirement.

LIKE I SAID, in retrospect we know alot of mes still transpired

but when murph went down there no one knew favre would become a jet

WHAT WAS THE HURRY

We knew he wasn't going to be a Packer. So he was going to become something, and it wasn't a Packer. When rumors started swirling that he was seeking a trade or release so he could play football again, the deal had to be made. Otherwise he'd be gone and there would be no deal offered. That's the hurry.

[MOBB DEEP]

maybe mid-season after everything blew over

of course in retrospect we can see that even more mess happened after the offer

but i dont know y they didnt wait a few months; wat was the hurry?

Yeah, Murphy's gonna fly over to New York to visit with Favre after football practice with the Jets to offer him a marketing deal with the Packers.

Doesn't hold water.

They could have just waited until after he retired for good, whenever that is. I think making the offer while he was still technically property of the Packers was in an attempt to save the relationship. Had they waited, just not said or did anything for a couple years, Favre could have viewed that as the Packers just not being interested in it at all. At least this way the offer is out there, and hopefully when this circus ends he'll come back and take the offer. That's what is best for everyone IMO, as Brett gets to retire a Packer (not to mention an extra 20 million dollars richer) and the Packers make a good profit on Favre merchandise after his retirement.

LIKE I SAID, in retrospect we know alot of mes still transpired

but when murph went down there no one knew favre would become a jet

WHAT WAS THE HURRY

We knew he wasn't going to be a Packer. So he was going to become something, and it wasn't a Packer. When rumors started swirling that he was seeking a trade or release so he could play football again, the deal had to be made. Otherwise he'd be gone and there would be no deal offered. That's the hurry.

honestly, i cant recall timeline but if thats true then alright

[Gunakor]

Just a thought, Scott, do you think that Murphy is stupid enough to offer a guy 20 million dollars to simply stop playing professional football, and would that be any less a blunder in today's economy?

Was San Antonio dumb enough to build the Alamo dome?


I won't believer that was a sound financial decision until I see the math for myself. You have to sell way too many damned jerseys to make back $20M in profit.

Jerseys, t-shirts, bobbleheads, artwork, you name it. Anything with Favre's name or likeness on it. They can create ways to use it. It all makes money over time. They're selling Brett Favre, and Brett Favre sells. He always has.

[Scott Campbell]

I still say the move was a blunder - very easy in retrospect, but not all that difficult real time. I remember cringing when I first got wind of it.

[Scott Campbell]

Jerseys, t-shirts, bobbleheads, artwork, you name it. Anything with Favre's name or likeness on it. They can create ways to use it. It all makes money over time. They're selling Brett Favre, and Brett Favre sells. He always has.

LOL

No he hasn't. He didn't sell a damned thing prior to his arrival in 92. And I'm not sure he's going to sell much when he's done either. I guarantee that Mr. Coffee didn't pay Joe DiMaggio an inflation adjusted $20M.

[MJZiggy]

Blunder or not, I'm still getting e-mails from Favre's website. Still sells Packer stuff too. Apparently he doesn't hate them enough to stop making money off of them.

[Gunakor]

Jerseys, t-shirts, bobbleheads, artwork, you name it. Anything with Favre's name or likeness on it. They can create ways to use it. It all makes money over time. They're selling Brett Favre, and Brett Favre sells. He always has.

LOL

No he hasn't. He didn't sell a damned thing prior to his arrival in 92. And I'm not sure he's going to sell much when he's done either. I guarantee that Mr. Coffee didn't pay Joe DiMaggio an inflation adjusted $20M.

Well no shit he didn't sell anything prior to 1992. Nobody knew who he was until 1994.

People still buy Bart Starr and Ray Nitschke stuff, so I'm fairly certain Favre will sell post retirement too.