Nelson or Jones

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I think Partial has a point re: Kansas vs. California insofar as we're comparing statewide competition. Nelson having the High School State Track Record in the 100m would be more impressive if he held it in California than if he held it in Kansas. Since there are more people in California, so you have a lot more competition to be the very best at something.

The problem with that logic is the following:

I'd rather have the US 100m champion over Bolt from Jamaica because the US has a much larger population and therefore harder to win the national 100m record.

I would look at times not how many people competed in a specific area.

Yeah, i'm not a stat person...but, i would have to guess that whatever the top deviation is...that most of the top runners would fall into it from most states.

For example, Nelson ran i think a 10.63 and this year, Cali in 09 had someone named Carroll who was a national leader....he ran a 10.30.

Clearly he is faster than jordy. However, that isn't the point. The point is whether you can compare a kansas athlete to a cali...and how do they compare. Hmm.

The #10 runner in Cali ran a 10.63...so jordy would be pretty damn good in Cali. And, it wouldn't be far off to say that his time is even more impressive considering that most likely he didn't get the training in track that cali students get, competed in football which is at odds with track...and for sure didn't get pushed by other competitors like those in cali do.

http://www.dyestatcal.com/Forms/Leaders.htm

What is funny is that partial is so clueless that he made this argument, when he lives in a state that has produced amazing track athletes/olympic class..floyd heard, michael bennett, etc.

BTW, bennett's 100m record...10.33.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Ruvell wouldn't run the wildcat...they are working on a whole new offense that compliments his skillset.

Wait, if you were going to use anybody as your Wildcat QB, why wouldn't it be Ruvell? Back in 2007, when the only players listed as QB on the roster were Favre and Rodgers, Ruvell Martin was penciled in as the emergency 3rd string backup QB (as well as Charles Woodson, some weeks), and it probably wasn't due to his passing ability (though he was an all-state QB in high school, I don't have a clue what offense he played in).

Note that I don't see the Packers running the Wildcat with anybody... though they did occasionally run that play in 2007 where Favre split out wide and Driver lined up as the QB...

I was being sarcastic. Joking about Ruvell the way ballhawk does. Like he is so unique they were working on a whole new offense based on him.

BTW, just because he was a backup QB and black...doesn't mean he can run the wildcat.

Ruvell has yet to show shifyness, elusiveness, running ability etc...that is why he wouldn't be good in the wildcat.

P.S. We had Nall for awhile in 07..but, TT wouldnt' let him compete.

[Partial]

You can tout the ravens card, but anyone who has any understanding of statistics at all can look at the raw data and decipher that is clearly a statistically anomaly.

Sorry Partial, but this line from you is a complete laugher!!

What is the highest level of formal mathematics or statistics you have completed?

[Partial]

I think Partial has a point re: Kansas vs. California insofar as we're comparing statewide competition. Nelson having the High School State Track Record in the 100m would be more impressive if he held it in California than if he held it in Kansas. Since there are more people in California, so you have a lot more competition to be the very best at something.

The problem with that logic is the following:

I'd rather have the US 100m champion over Bolt from Jamaica because the US has a much larger population and therefore harder to win the national 100m record.

I would look at times not how many people competed in a specific area.

Certain states are good at certain things. The Wisconsin high school tennis champion gets killed by any state champ from the south or the west.

Ohio, Florida, Texas, a few other southern states and Cali are football factories..

Illinois, West Virginia, Indiana, etc are all basketball power houses...

The point was that it's pretty unfair to say he's better than another guy by simple saying "guy 1 has no acolades.. guy 2 is a state champ in a below average state", when guy 1 is from the state with the cream of the crop.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I think Partial has a point re: Kansas vs. California insofar as we're comparing statewide competition. Nelson having the High School State Track Record in the 100m would be more impressive if he held it in California than if he held it in Kansas. Since there are more people in California, so you have a lot more competition to be the very best at something.

The problem with that logic is the following:

I'd rather have the US 100m champion over Bolt from Jamaica because the US has a much larger population and therefore harder to win the national 100m record.

I would look at times not how many people competed in a specific area.

Certain states are good at certain things. The Wisconsin high school tennis champion gets killed by any state champ from the south or the west.

Ohio, Florida, Texas, a few other southern states and Cali are football factories..

Illinois, West Virginia, Indiana, etc are all basketball power houses...

The point was that it's pretty unfair to say he's better than another guy by simple saying "guy 1 has no acolades.. guy 2 is a state champ in a below average state", when guy 1 is from the state with the cream of the crop.

Factually wrong again. The top wisco tennis players are often ranked as int he top in their region and often in the nation.

The point isn't whether the top beats the top..it is whether they are in the same deviation..which they are or can be.

Lastly, nobody said one guy had accolades therefore he is better. You have created a strawman.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

You can tout the ravens card, but anyone who has any understanding of statistics at all can look at the raw data and decipher that is clearly a statistically anomaly.

Sorry Partial, but this line from you is a complete laugher!!

What is the highest level of formal mathematics or statistics you have completed?

Why ask? Certainly your stats at milwaukee and platteville dont' compete with Madison or better schools.

[ThunderDan]

You can tout the ravens card, but anyone who has any understanding of statistics at all can look at the raw data and decipher that is clearly a statistically anomaly.

Sorry Partial, but this line from you is a complete laugher!!

What is the highest level of formal mathematics or statistics you have completed?

500 level math and statistics from the University of Wisconsin - Madison, where I have my first degree a BS-Chemistry (223 or 227 was 3rd semester calc just so you will understand)

I had two semesters of calc completed upon graduating high school.

[Zool]

You can tout the ravens card, but anyone who has any understanding of statistics at all can look at the raw data and decipher that is clearly a statistically anomaly.

Sorry Partial, but this line from you is a complete laugher!!

What is the highest level of formal mathematics or statistics you have completed?

500 level math and statistics from the University of Wisconsin - Madison, where I have my first degree a BS-Chemistry (223 or 227 was 3rd semester calc just so you will understand)

I had two semesters of calc completed upon graduating high school.

I'm still confused. Who has the bigger penis?

[Bossman641]

You can tout the ravens card, but anyone who has any understanding of statistics at all can look at the raw data and decipher that is clearly a statistically anomaly.

Sorry Partial, but this line from you is a complete laugher!!

What is the highest level of formal mathematics or statistics you have completed?

500 level math and statistics from the University of Wisconsin - Madison, where I have my first degree a BS-Chemistry (223 or 227 was 3rd semester calc just so you will understand)

I had two semesters of calc completed upon graduating high school.

I'm still confused. Who has the bigger penis?

I think Partial does because he stayed closer to home....or something like that

[Tyrone Bigguns]

You can tout the ravens card, but anyone who has any understanding of statistics at all can look at the raw data and decipher that is clearly a statistically anomaly.

Sorry Partial, but this line from you is a complete laugher!!

What is the highest level of formal mathematics or statistics you have completed?

500 level math and statistics from the University of Wisconsin - Madison, where I have my first degree a BS-Chemistry (223 or 227 was 3rd semester calc just so you will understand)

I had two semesters of calc completed upon graduating high school.

I'm still confused. Who has the bigger penis?

Fuck you are dumb. They both have small penises..they are from wisco. Only cali, tex, fl have large penises.

[MJZiggy]

You can tout the ravens card, but anyone who has any understanding of statistics at all can look at the raw data and decipher that is clearly a statistically anomaly.

Sorry Partial, but this line from you is a complete laugher!!

What is the highest level of formal mathematics or statistics you have completed?

500 level math and statistics from the University of Wisconsin - Madison, where I have my first degree a BS-Chemistry (223 or 227 was 3rd semester calc just so you will understand)

I had two semesters of calc completed upon graduating high school.

I'm still confused. Who has the bigger penis?

At this point, I'd have to say me. Partial, formal education on mathematics and statistics doesn't do you a damn bit of good if you're too lazy to actually look up and actually analyze the raw data instead of making assumptions about it. At best, you're making a guess based on what you think the data would support, but until you look, you're just as clueless as us English majors...

[pbmax]

I think Partial has a point re: Kansas vs. California insofar as we're comparing statewide competition. Nelson having the High School State Track Record in the 100m would be more impressive if he held it in California than if he held it in Kansas. Since there are more people in California, so you have a lot more competition to be the very best at something.

Still agreed, but there is one more factor. There are MANY more football programs in California. Nelson making the team (walkon or not) in a state with fewer spots also counts for something. Of course, this doesn't take into account the number of slots filled by out of state recruits.

[Lurker64]

What is the highest level of formal mathematics or statistics you have completed?

Ooh, is this an open question? I have a master's degree in Mathematics and I'm ABD working on a PhD thesis about adapting Robinson's model of Brownian motion as a random walk on hyperreal coin-flipping space to operator theory to construct a tensor-free model of Free Brownian Motion using infinite random matrices (as opposed to Voiculescu's Fock Space model.)

The last math class I took, I think, was a course on the K-Theory of C* Algebras. Either that or a course on L-functions (I hate L-functions), I forget.

[SkinBasket]

What is the highest level of formal mathematics or statistics you have completed?

Ooh, is this an open question? I have a master's degree in Mathematics and I'm ABD working on a PhD thesis about adapting Robinson's model of Brownian motion as a random walk on hyperreal coin-flipping space to operator theory to construct a tensor-free model of Free Brownian Motion using infinite random matrices (as opposed to Voiculescu's Fock Space model.)

The last math class I took, I think, was a course on the K-Theory of C* Algebras.

Dork.


PS.
I used to love math. She never loved me back.

[MJZiggy]

Lurker, will you do my taxes next year? I need someone who can add...