Predict the Favre Quotes Tonight

[Gunakor]

He shouldn't consider himself a failure for what I think.. he should for his overall record and missing the playoffs 3 of 4 season with 2 of them being a below .500 record... that in itself speaks for itself

YOU consider him a failure for the very reasons you mentioned. I consider him a success because he has made it more likely we'll be successful in years to come than it had looked when he got here. See my rant on Mike Sherman for an explaination of that. You say it's just excuses, and I know I won't ever convince you otherwise. But it is what it is, whether you believe it or not. Why the hell would they have fired Sherman - a GM who never missed the playoffs, always won the division, tons of wins, etc. - if they thought wins and losses were the only thing a GM was judged on? Because there's more to it than that, obviously.

you have absolutely no idea what the future holds... none, zero, zilch... nada... no one does. GM's don't hold onto their jobs long when they lose, and neither will TT if he continues on this path whether u like the young guys he's got or not.. it doesn't guarantee anything (thank you brett favre for the last statement ha)

Paco, if you are looking for guarantees, you are at the wrong forum. I'm not guaranteeing anything.

You refuse to go back and look at the state of our franchise when Thompson took over. I can't continue this argument with you until you start looking at the state of the franchise instead of just wins and losses. We are much healthier vs. the salary cap. We are MUCH younger, and our players aren't being outrageously overpaid for their services anymore. This DOES make it more likely we'll be successful in the future than we would have been with Sherman, regardless of wins and losses over the PAST four years. That all factors into a GM's performance as much as wins and losses do. Check it out before you reply to this.

[Scott Campbell]

You refuse to go back and look at the state of our franchise when Thompson took over.

That's a subjective exercise, and I agree with you. He passes the sniff test. But now it's time to prove it with the W/L record.

Paco hates Ted because he thinks the man "dissed" Favre. You're never going to change his mind.

[Gunakor]

Paco hates Ted because he thinks the man "dissed" Favre.

It's a separate issue. He's said so himself.

I don't know, because I didn't join PR until the JSO collapse, but did he voice such vile hatred of our GM before the Favre saga began last June?

[Scott Campbell]

Paco hates Ted because he thinks the man "dissed" Favre.

It's a separate issue. He's said so himself.

I don't know, because I didn't join PR until the JSO collapse, but did he voice such vile hatred of our GM before the Favre saga began last June?

I honestly don't remember.

[cpk1994]

Paco hates Ted because he thinks the man "dissed" Favre. You're never going to change his mind.

I think this has been proven many times over no matter how many times he tries to say otherwise.

[Scott Campbell]

Paco hates Ted because he thinks the man "dissed" Favre. You're never going to change his mind.

I think this has been proven many times over no matter how many times he tries to say otherwise.

I didn't notice him hiding from it.

[cpk1994]

Paco hates Ted because he thinks the man "dissed" Favre. You're never going to change his mind.

I think this has been proven many times over no matter how many times he tries to say otherwise.

I didn't notice him hiding from it.

Did you read all the "I can't make up my mind." posts?

[Scott Campbell]

Paco hates Ted because he thinks the man "dissed" Favre. You're never going to change his mind.

I think this has been proven many times over no matter how many times he tries to say otherwise.

I didn't notice him hiding from it.

Did you read all the "I can't make up my mind." posts?

He can't make up his mind about rooting for the Packers. He's consistently hated Ted over his unholy treatment of Brett.

[cpk1994]

He can't make up his mind about rooting for the Packers. He's consistently hated Ted over his unholy treatment of Brett.

Touche.

[Pacopete4]

Paco, if you are looking for guarantees, you are at the wrong forum. I'm not guaranteeing anything.

You refuse to go back and look at the state of our franchise when Thompson took over. I can't continue this argument with you until you start looking at the state of the franchise instead of just wins and losses. We are much healthier vs. the salary cap. We are MUCH younger, and our players aren't being outrageously overpaid for their services anymore. This DOES make it more likely we'll be successful in the future than we would have been with Sherman, regardless of wins and losses over the PAST four years. That all factors into a GM's performance as much as wins and losses do. Check it out before you reply to this.

Gunkor.. I am looking at the whole picture. I realize that he's done a job in getting us outta cap hell, I do realize he's done a good job at drafting for the future.. i get that... i really do. I am one, and even say it to my friends, that TT knows what he's doing when it comes to the draft.


but here are my bitches:

yes, we are MUCH younger as you state... but so? has that translated into wins? nope...

is there more talent on this team now then when Sherman had it? its all perspective because Shermans talent was proven and we knew what we were gonna get, TT's are all guesses... all of em... every year we have absolutely no clue who's gonna be good.... again, are there more wins?

TT still refuses any sort of "star" powered help... whether or not u think the FA market is weak or whatever... there are guys out there that can help us and just cuz they go somewhere else and do shitty, does NOT mean they would here. We've all seen what good situations can do for players (FAVRE)... any more wins?

TT has felt the need to NOT bolster our O and D lines... our O line is absolutely pathetic... we are lucky our offense has been as good as it has with that crap oline has been (maybe this year they'll be good, but who knows).... anymore wins?


TT may of ridden us from some of the overpaid dead wait we had BECAUSE of the 4-5 good years we had while Sherman was here. Did Sherman take a chance and try to get a SB, yes and failed....

but Id sure as hell rather have a GM that goes for it all than one that is ok with amount of wins he has that season, just as long as he can go scout the next NFL class that comes in... TT will never win because of this.. hes more into scouting college players, than he will ever be about winning in the NFL, and I'm sticking to it!


TT is a loser in the NFL because of this.. and it'll be proven in the near future.... and thats me predicting the future



PS. My brother just has his first kid, a girl.. Emma Madison Peterson... and I'm pretty drunk in the celebration, I LOVE YOU ALL!... even you CPK

[ThunderDan]

TT still refuses any sort of "star" powered help... whether or not u think the FA market is weak or whatever... there are guys out there that can help us and just cuz they go somewhere else and do shitty, does NOT mean they would here. We've all seen what good situations can do for players (FAVRE)... any more wins?

How do you judge talent then? You mean if Ryan Leaf was drafted by anyone other than the Chargers he would have been a star?

What do you call Charles Woodson??

Why are you so thrilled with "star" players? You can't have a Pro-Bowler at every position. You have to find JAGS to plug in holes all over the place. The starting Pro-Bowl players for the NFC had $118,319,400 in salary paid. That's for 22 guys. Nick Collins was the least expensive at $523,120.

That line up would put you over the cap with no backups or kickers. There are only so many superstars you can afford.

[Gunakor]

Paco, you are kidding yourself if you believe that TT or anyone else in the Packers organization is satisfied with 6 wins. Nothing the Packers have done this offseason suggests they are okay with just 6 wins. It's a pretty lame argument to make that TT is okay with however many wins he has, so long as he can scout the next incoming class of NFL rookies. Very lame indeed.

[Pacopete4]

Paco, you are kidding yourself if you believe that TT or anyone else in the Packers organization is satisfied with 6 wins. Nothing the Packers have done this offseason suggests they are okay with just 6 wins. It's a pretty lame argument to make that TT is okay with however many wins he has, so long as he can scout the next incoming class of NFL rookies. Very lame indeed.

not his highest priority... would rather look like a genius picking the next sleeper IMO

[Scott Campbell]

Paco, you are kidding yourself if you believe that TT or anyone else in the Packers organization is satisfied with 6 wins. Nothing the Packers have done this offseason suggests they are okay with just 6 wins. It's a pretty lame argument to make that TT is okay with however many wins he has, so long as he can scout the next incoming class of NFL rookies. Very lame indeed.

not his highest priority... would rather look like a genius picking the next sleeper IMO

Only if he was hellbent on getting fired.

[Gunakor]

Paco, you are kidding yourself if you believe that TT or anyone else in the Packers organization is satisfied with 6 wins. Nothing the Packers have done this offseason suggests they are okay with just 6 wins. It's a pretty lame argument to make that TT is okay with however many wins he has, so long as he can scout the next incoming class of NFL rookies. Very lame indeed.

not his highest priority... would rather look like a genius picking the next sleeper IMO

Is there a source that quotes anyone within the Packers front office echoing this statement, or is that just your opinion based on a 6-10 season?