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I really don't want the Packers to lose.. just so u know that. I just said its tough for me, cuz I'm really on the fence cuz I really hate Ted Thompson. I think hes an OK GM that made a terrible decision. Now, you can disagree with me on whatever Brett Favre did or didn't do. But nothing has proven TT to be a good GM yet. Once 13-3 season doesnt prove that to me. I will forever hate Ted Thompson unless he proves something to us as fans.. like he actually knows what the fuck he is doing? That could be a start. Another 6-10 season and I really will kill his dog.
I really don't want the Packers to lose.. just so u know that. I just said its tough for me, cuz I'm really on the fence cuz I really hate Ted Thompson. I think hes an OK GM that made a terrible decision. Now, you can disagree with me on whatever Brett Favre did or didn't do. But nothing has proven TT to be a good GM yet. Once 13-3 season doesnt prove that to me. I will forever hate Ted Thompson unless he proves something to us as fans.. like he actually knows what the fuck he is doing? That could be a start. Another 6-10 season and I really will kill his dog.
I completely understand your dislike of TT. I don't agree with it, but I do understand. I felt the same way about Mike Sherman as you do Ted Thompson - that he's running this franchise into the ground, and that once all of Ron Wolf's guys were gone we'd be fucked for having Sherman as our GM. But even for those 5 years that I hated our GM with nearly every bone in my body, there was never a game where I couldn't decide whether I wanted the Packers to win or not. It was always a crystal clear decision - the Packers are bigger to me than any person that is a part of them. I am loyal to the Packers in any and every possible circumstance you could come up with.
You can hate TT all you want. It's a free country. But know that he's just one SB win away from tying Ron Wolf as the most successful GM the Packers have had since the 60's. Knowing he's that close, keep your eyes open or you'll miss it when he does something right.
When you imply he doesn't know what the fuck he is doing, you are insulting both he and the franchise. 80% of this roster (at least) are players that TT either drafted, traded for, or signed off the FA market. A couple of them are All-Pros. Our WR corps is deeper now than it ever was during the 90's. And I'm not even going to get into the QB conundrum this team was facing with Brett speaking of retirement on an annual basis, or the salary cap hell Sherman put us in.
I think he knows what he's doing.
Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow
I really don't want the Packers to lose.. just so u know that. I just said its tough for me, cuz I'm really on the fence cuz I really hate Ted Thompson. I think hes an OK GM that made a terrible decision. Now, you can disagree with me on whatever Brett Favre did or didn't do. But nothing has proven TT to be a good GM yet. Once 13-3 season doesnt prove that to me. I will forever hate Ted Thompson unless he proves something to us as fans.. like he actually knows what the fuck he is doing? That could be a start. Another 6-10 season and I really will kill his dog.
I completely understand your dislike of TT. I don't agree with it, but I do understand. I felt the same way about Mike Sherman as you do Ted Thompson - that he's running this franchise into the ground, and that once all of Ron Wolf's guys were gone we'd be fucked for having Sherman as our GM. But even for those 5 years that I hated our GM with nearly every bone in my body, there was never a game where I couldn't decide whether I wanted the Packers to win or not. It was always a crystal clear decision - the Packers are bigger to me than any person that is a part of them. I am loyal to the Packers in any and every possible circumstance you could come up with.
You can hate TT all you want. It's a free country. But know that he's just one SB win away from tying Ron Wolf as the most successful GM the Packers have had since the 60's. Knowing he's that close, keep your eyes open or you'll miss it when he does something right.
When you imply he doesn't know what the fuck he is doing, you are insulting both he and the franchise. 80% of this roster (at least) are players that TT either drafted, traded for, or signed off the FA market. A couple of them are All-Pros. Our WR corps is deeper now than it ever was during the 90's. And I'm not even going to get into the QB conundrum this team was facing with Brett speaking of retirement on an annual basis, or the salary cap hell Sherman put us in.
I think he knows what he's doing.
he might.. but until that transpires into a lot of wins.. he isnt jackshit in my opinion..
I really don't want the Packers to lose.. just so u know that. I just said its tough for me, cuz I'm really on the fence cuz I really hate Ted Thompson. I think hes an OK GM that made a terrible decision. Now, you can disagree with me on whatever Brett Favre did or didn't do. But nothing has proven TT to be a good GM yet. Once 13-3 season doesnt prove that to me. I will forever hate Ted Thompson unless he proves something to us as fans.. like he actually knows what the fuck he is doing? That could be a start. Another 6-10 season and I really will kill his dog.
I completely understand your dislike of TT. I don't agree with it, but I do understand. I felt the same way about Mike Sherman as you do Ted Thompson - that he's running this franchise into the ground, and that once all of Ron Wolf's guys were gone we'd be fucked for having Sherman as our GM. But even for those 5 years that I hated our GM with nearly every bone in my body, there was never a game where I couldn't decide whether I wanted the Packers to win or not. It was always a crystal clear decision - the Packers are bigger to me than any person that is a part of them. I am loyal to the Packers in any and every possible circumstance you could come up with.
You can hate TT all you want. It's a free country. But know that he's just one SB win away from tying Ron Wolf as the most successful GM the Packers have had since the 60's. Knowing he's that close, keep your eyes open or you'll miss it when he does something right.
When you imply he doesn't know what the fuck he is doing, you are insulting both he and the franchise. 80% of this roster (at least) are players that TT either drafted, traded for, or signed off the FA market. A couple of them are All-Pros. Our WR corps is deeper now than it ever was during the 90's. And I'm not even going to get into the QB conundrum this team was facing with Brett speaking of retirement on an annual basis, or the salary cap hell Sherman put us in.
I think he knows what he's doing.
he might.. but until that transpires into a lot of wins.. he isnt jackshit in my opinion..
Let me put it another way. Sherman was a HORRIBLE General Manager, who happened to rack up a lot of wins because Ron Wolf left the cupboards stocked for him. He did nothing at all to ensure the success of the franchise beyond his tenure. Ted walked into a nightmare. Salary cap problems, overpaid aging players, no plan for the future.
If Ted Thompson would have been the one Harlan chose to replace Wolf as General Manager, his record would be quite different. Thompson had to REBUILD this roster, something Sherman never had to do or even tried to do. Rebuilding means there will be some rough times. Rebuilding a roster, nearly top to bottom, doesn't happen overnight.
Many of Ted's failures as GM can be directly attributed to the guy he replaced. Not the least of which is a 4-12 2005 season.
Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow
I think this is well put, Gun, and I mostly agree with you. I'm always a little puzzled why, even before the Brett Favre stuff, so many people disliked Thompson. Sure, he's not a warm-n-cozy guy, but neither was Mike Sherman.
By any account I've read, inside the organization he is not only respected but (mostly) liked. He is said to treat people well, from those at the top of the organization down.
I think he's made some mistakes, for sure. Will Whitticker as a starting guard as a rookie is one example. But every GM will, even Bill Belichek/Scott Polian when they were running things in NE.
On the whole, I think he has a sound vision for the franchise, I think he drafts well, and I think he's made mostly good free agent signings (Earl Little, not so good).
I think the team is well-positioned to make a run in the next two years, and team is not over the salary cap edge.
"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
This is the key year for TT. After this year, either 13-3 in 2007 or 6-10 in 2008 will look like a fluke. I actually think this team is more talented than the 2007 team. That's not to say they should be 13-3, but they should be one of the better teams in the NFC, and should be a threat to go to the Super Bowl. Another losing season and there will be a lot of questions being asked about whether TT can get it done here.
I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen
This is the key year for TT. After this year, either 13-3 in 2007 or 6-10 in 2008 will look like a fluke. I actually think this team is more talented than the 2007 team. That's not to say they should be 13-3, but they should be one of the better teams in the NFC, and should be a threat to go to the Super Bowl. Another losing season and there will be a lot of questions being asked about whether TT can get it done here.
BINGO!
TT may of been left with a crap situation but guess what... its year 5 now. Year 4 just left us 6-10.... 6 and friggin 10 people... thats awful. If another one of those years are in store, I know for a fact there will be a helluva lot more people on my side of the fence for him as a GM. That being said, I think TT does a great job with the draft.. hes pretty good there. I wish he woulda been a draft consultant rather than our GM...
This is the key year for TT. After this year, either 13-3 in 2007 or 6-10 in 2008 will look like a fluke. I actually think this team is more talented than the 2007 team. That's not to say they should be 13-3, but they should be one of the better teams in the NFC, and should be a threat to go to the Super Bowl. Another losing season and there will be a lot of questions being asked about whether TT can get it done here.
This is the key year for TT. After this year, either 13-3 in 2007 or 6-10 in 2008 will look like a fluke. I actually think this team is more talented than the 2007 team. That's not to say they should be 13-3, but they should be one of the better teams in the NFC, and should be a threat to go to the Super Bowl. Another losing season and there will be a lot of questions being asked about whether TT can get it done here.
BINGO!
TT may of been left with a crap situation but guess what... its year 5 now. Year 4 just left us 6-10.... 6 and friggin 10 people... thats awful. If another one of those years are in store, I know for a fact there will be a helluva lot more people on my side of the fence for him as a GM. That being said, I think TT does a great job with the draft.. hes pretty good there. I wish he woulda been a draft consultant rather than our GM...
I'd agree with this. Another losing season at this point would have a LOT of people asking serious questions about Ted being the right guy.
This is the key year for TT. After this year, either 13-3 in 2007 or 6-10 in 2008 will look like a fluke. I actually think this team is more talented than the 2007 team. That's not to say they should be 13-3, but they should be one of the better teams in the NFC, and should be a threat to go to the Super Bowl. Another losing season and there will be a lot of questions being asked about whether TT can get it done here.
BINGO!
TT may of been left with a crap situation but guess what... its year 5 now. Year 4 just left us 6-10.... 6 and friggin 10 people... thats awful. If another one of those years are in store, I know for a fact there will be a helluva lot more people on my side of the fence for him as a GM. That being said, I think TT does a great job with the draft.. hes pretty good there. I wish he woulda been a draft consultant rather than our GM...
6-10 riddled with injury. 6-10 following 13-3. You can't discredit Thompson's success and only count his failure.
And you aren't convincing anybody that 13-3 was only Favre and had nothing to do with Thompson.
Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow
This is the key year for TT. After this year, either 13-3 in 2007 or 6-10 in 2008 will look like a fluke. I actually think this team is more talented than the 2007 team. That's not to say they should be 13-3, but they should be one of the better teams in the NFC, and should be a threat to go to the Super Bowl. Another losing season and there will be a lot of questions being asked about whether TT can get it done here.
BINGO!
TT may of been left with a crap situation but guess what... its year 5 now. Year 4 just left us 6-10.... 6 and friggin 10 people... thats awful. If another one of those years are in store, I know for a fact there will be a helluva lot more people on my side of the fence for him as a GM. That being said, I think TT does a great job with the draft.. hes pretty good there. I wish he woulda been a draft consultant rather than our GM...
6-10 riddled with injury. 6-10 following 13-3. You can't discredit Thompson's success and only count his failure.
And you aren't convincing anybody that 13-3 was only Favre and had nothing to do with Thompson.
this has nothing to do with Favre.. thats a seperate issue for me
4-12: excuse cuz Sherman
8-8: after starting 4-8 we heard that TT's guys are coming around now
13-3: oh we are on the verge or being a great team for awhile to come
6-10: another excuse.. injuries
31-33: not that great of a GM so far Gunkor, not great at all...
another losing season and it'll be all but said and done, I'm tellin ya
but put it this way.. another great season and you wont have trouble finding people who are backing TT... so just hope to yourself that TT does know what he's doing and has improved this team enough to keep his fuckin job, let alone get support from the fans
I'm always a little puzzled why, even before the Brett Favre stuff, so many people disliked Thompson. Sure, he's not a warm-n-cozy guy, but neither was Mike Sherman.
The answer is still Brett Favre. Most of those that severly dislike TT do so becuase, in their eyes, TT wasn't bedning over backwards to bring in big name FA to "Get Brett another Super Bowl". It didn't matter to them if trying to do that could put the team in a hoile that could set them back a decade. It didn't matter that Mike Sherman had already tried and failed miserably. They only cared that Brett got another ring. It was shortsightedness and an unwillingness to let go.
This is the key year for TT. After this year, either 13-3 in 2007 or 6-10 in 2008 will look like a fluke. I actually think this team is more talented than the 2007 team. That's not to say they should be 13-3, but they should be one of the better teams in the NFC, and should be a threat to go to the Super Bowl. Another losing season and there will be a lot of questions being asked about whether TT can get it done here.
BINGO!
TT may of been left with a crap situation but guess what... its year 5 now. Year 4 just left us 6-10.... 6 and friggin 10 people... thats awful. If another one of those years are in store, I know for a fact there will be a helluva lot more people on my side of the fence for him as a GM. That being said, I think TT does a great job with the draft.. hes pretty good there. I wish he woulda been a draft consultant rather than our GM...
6-10 riddled with injury. 6-10 following 13-3. You can't discredit Thompson's success and only count his failure.
And you aren't convincing anybody that 13-3 was only Favre and had nothing to do with Thompson.
this has nothing to do with Favre.. thats a seperate issue for me
4-12: excuse cuz Sherman
8-8: after starting 4-8 we heard that TT's guys are coming around now
13-3: oh we are on the verge or being a great team for awhile to come
6-10: another excuse.. injuries
31-33: not that great of a GM so far Gunkor, not great at all...
another losing season and it'll be all but said and done, I'm tellin ya
but put it this way.. another great season and you wont have trouble finding people who are backing TT... so just hope to yourself that TT does know what he's doing and has improved this team enough to keep his fuckin job, let alone get support from the fans
You just proved Guns point. You refuse to give TT any credit for 13-3. That's bullshit and you know it.
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