Jennings and Packers reach deal on contract

[woodbuck27]

Al Harris has testified that his ability to beat press coverage at the LOS is also second to none. That's an ability many long-legged lopers like Johnson struggle with.

Yep. I like Jennings better for a number of reasons, mostly listed between you two.

Jennings gets off the line better
Jennings plays the ball in the air better
Jennings is better after the catch

Calvin is bigger
Calvin is faster

Jennings is more skilled IMHO.

Greg is good, but Calvin is probably as good. I'd lean towards Calvin, but only because I think he has the potential to be even better than he was last year. Greg probably won't get significantly better. Two different types of receivers. A combination of Calvin and Greg would be epic. How can we get Calvin?

We had a better shot two years ago. His name was. . .ohhh let me see.

Moss. Yea. Randy Moss.

[Scott Campbell]

I suspect that Ted's ego may have gotten in the way of that one.


GO PACK GO!!!!!

[woodbuck27]

Calvin is pretty dynamic, in his own right.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d80ad4977/Calvin-Johnson-Highlight-WK-02-vs-Packers-2008

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d80ad47cb/Calvin-Johnson-Highlight-WK-02-vs-Packers-2008

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d80bc960d/Calvin-Johnson-Highlight-WK-07-vs-Texans-2008

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d80bcab3b/Calvin-Johnson-Highlight-WK-07-vs-Texans-2008

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d80bfc8e0/Calvin-Johnson-Highlight-WK-08-vs-Redskins-2008

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d80c2eb45/Calvin-Johnson-Highlight-WK-09-vs-Bears-2008

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d80c5e5da/Calvin-Johnson-Highlight-WK-10-vs-Jaguars-2008

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d80cc1de2/Calvin-Johnson-Highlight-WK-12-vs-Buccaneers-2008

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d80cc1cc4/Calvin-Johnson-Highlight-WK-12-vs-Buccaneers-2008

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d80d23114/Calvin-Johnson-Highlight-WK-14-vs-Vikings-2008

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d80d5449c/Calvin-Johnson-Highlight-WK-15-vs-Colts-2008

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d80d8b95b/Calvin-Johnson-Highlight-WK-16-vs-Saints-2008

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d80daf78a/WK-17-Calvin-Johnson-highlights

I love watching the dude play. Too bad he plays for the Lions.

A GIANT among men. Domination. He looks huge and plays huge.

[Scott Campbell]

IMO Calvin's a great player that may or may not reach his real potential. He's on the Loins, and he's had back issues. I'm not sure if they're chronic or not.

Calvin was taken with the 2nd pick in 2007. Greg was taken with the 52nd pick in 2006. Which guy is better? It's a great argument to be having.

[woodbuck27]

I suspect that Ted's ego may have gotten in the way of that one.


GO PACK GO!!!!!

I'm sure that Randy Moss ended up loving Tom Brady tossing him TD pass's but he would certainly have settled for Favre in that role too.

Ahhh then I forget. The Green Bay Packers work out indoors to prepare for a sub zero cold - cold winters game for possibly all the marbles. Just about as illogical as it can get. Now there is an example of 'blowing an opportunity' Scott. It's like preparing to swim across Lake Ontario or better the English channel and never come out of the heated pool till showtime.

The GM has hands off on all coaching decisions.

Then I read that Favre cannot play very well in the cold anymore. Shaking my head. That stuff burns my ass. Better to

GO PACKERS!

[woodbuck27]

IMO Calvin's a great player that may or may not reach his real potential. He's on the Loins, and he's had back issues. I'm not sure if they're chronic or not.

Calvin was taken with the 2nd pick in 2007. Greg was taken with the 52nd pick in 2006. Which guy is better? It's a great argument to be having.

Greg Jennings should have a long career and he's the new Donald Driver. I hate to see Driver in Minnesota.

LORDY.

[vince]

IMO Calvin's a great player that may or may not reach his real potential. He's on the Loins, and he's had back issues. I'm not sure if they're chronic or not.

Calvin was taken with the 2nd pick in 2007. Greg was taken with the 52nd pick in 2006. Which guy is better? It's a great argument to be having.

Right on. Johnson's subsequent 6 yr./64 mil contract with 27.2 mil guaranteed also puts things in perspective regarding Jennings' new deal.

[woodbuck27]

Packers got a steal. Since it is added to the final year of his last contract, which had a cap # about 900K, he's making 27.9M over the next 4 years, or just a shade under 7M/yr. Compared to other big name "number ones", that is a bargain.

We got him cheep.

What about the incentives?

GO PACKERS!

[Scott Campbell]

Then I read that Favre cannot play very well in the cold anymore. Shaking my head. That stuff burns my ass.

Yeah, I read that. And it really burns my ass too.

[HarveyWallbangers]

6 yr./64 mil contract with 27.2 mil guaranteed

$10.67M annually. Man, those reports that Jennings would be the second highest paid receiver annually are off. Johnson, Fitzgerald, and Evans all make more than Greg's $9M/yr (or $7.5M/year, depending on how you look at it) deal.

[Pacopete4]

Then I read that Favre cannot play very well in the cold anymore. Shaking my head. That stuff burns my ass.

Yeah, I read that. And it really burns my ass too.

Scott, you really are unbelievable. WE HAD TO LEAN ON BRETT in a below zero game because of the fact that good ole Teddy boy cant get a sufficient Oline and RB for those types of games. Do you realize how bad that is? We had to have Brett play spectacular in BELOW ZERO. Not only is it tough to throw the ball if it was a 24 year old in those conditions, but throw in the fact that he was 38. I mean, are you really that blind to see? Brett made the bad pass, he'll tell you himself. But it shoulda NEVER, EVER, NEVER! been on his shoulders the ENTIRE GAME. We had zero running game. Repeat... ZERO running game. We'll see how he does in cold weather this season when AP's jamming it down teams throat when its those conditions. ..... oooooh and the fact that he played amazing just a week earlier IN COLD WEATHER!

[ThunderDan]

Then I read that Favre cannot play very well in the cold anymore. Shaking my head. That stuff burns my ass.

Yeah, I read that. And it really burns my ass too.

Scott, you really are unbelievable. WE HAD TO LEAN ON BRETT in a below zero game because of the fact that good ole Teddy boy cant get a sufficient Oline and RB for those types of games. Do you realize how bad that is? We had to have Brett play spectacular in BELOW ZERO. Not only is it tough to throw the ball if it was a 24 year old in those conditions, but throw in the fact that he was 38. I mean, are you really that blind to see? Brett made the bad pass, he'll tell you himself. But it shoulda NEVER, EVER, NEVER! been on his shoulders the ENTIRE GAME. We had zero running game. Repeat... ZERO running game. We'll see how he does in cold weather this season when AP's jamming it down teams throat when its those conditions. ..... oooooh and the fact that he played amazing just a week earlier IN COLD WEATHER!

I agree about the first part of the post. Favre didn't lose the game for the Pack. The weather argument is dumb.

It's a hell of lot easier to play in 25 degree weather than 5 degree weather at night with a 15 below wind chill. It's night and day. I use to sweat like a mo fo until it gets to about 15 than its damn cold and no fun to play.

[Scott Campbell]

Scott, you really are unbelievable. WE HAD TO LEAN ON BRETT in a below zero game because of the fact that good ole Teddy boy cant get a sufficient Oline and RB for those types of games. Do you realize how bad that is? We had to have Brett play spectacular in BELOW ZERO. Not only is it tough to throw the ball if it was a 24 year old in those conditions, but throw in the fact that he was 38. I mean, are you really that blind to see? Brett made the bad pass, he'll tell you himself. But it shoulda NEVER, EVER, NEVER! been on his shoulders the ENTIRE GAME. We had zero running game. Repeat... ZERO running game. We'll see how he does in cold weather this season when AP's jamming it down teams throat when its those conditions. ..... oooooh and the fact that he played amazing just a week earlier IN COLD WEATHER!

So if were in an overtime game in the playoffs, and if he's a few years younger, and if it's not so cold outside, he doesn't throw that pick?

Wait a minute - didn't he do the same thing against Philly? Who's fault was that one?

[Bossman641]

Scott, you really are unbelievable. WE HAD TO LEAN ON BRETT in a below zero game because of the fact that good ole Teddy boy cant get a sufficient Oline and RB for those types of games. Do you realize how bad that is? We had to have Brett play spectacular in BELOW ZERO. Not only is it tough to throw the ball if it was a 24 year old in those conditions, but throw in the fact that he was 38. I mean, are you really that blind to see? Brett made the bad pass, he'll tell you himself. But it shoulda NEVER, EVER, NEVER! been on his shoulders the ENTIRE GAME. We had zero running game. Repeat... ZERO running game. We'll see how he does in cold weather this season when AP's jamming it down teams throat when its those conditions. ..... oooooh and the fact that he played amazing just a week earlier IN COLD WEATHER!

So if were in an overtime game in the playoffs, and if he's a few years younger, and if it's not so cold outside, he doesn't throw that pick?

Wait a minute - didn't he do the same thing against Philly? Who's fault was that one?

Walker ran the wrong route

And then one of the stadium lights was shining in a way so that it was absolutely blinding Favre when he looked downfield.

Really just a freak play all the way around.

[Patler]

Scott, you really are unbelievable. WE HAD TO LEAN ON BRETT in a below zero game because of the fact that good ole Teddy boy cant get a sufficient Oline and RB for those types of games. Do you realize how bad that is? We had to have Brett play spectacular in BELOW ZERO. Not only is it tough to throw the ball if it was a 24 year old in those conditions, but throw in the fact that he was 38. I mean, are you really that blind to see? Brett made the bad pass, he'll tell you himself. But it shoulda NEVER, EVER, NEVER! been on his shoulders the ENTIRE GAME. We had zero running game. Repeat... ZERO running game. We'll see how he does in cold weather this season when AP's jamming it down teams throat when its those conditions. ..... oooooh and the fact that he played amazing just a week earlier IN COLD WEATHER!

Just a couple comments:

1. You realize I hope that in the part I put in bold you have just explained why it was absolutely necessary to move to Rodgers from Favre. The Packers play in GB. Playoffs are in January. Ideally they will have home playoff games. Decisive regular season games are played in Dec. in GB. A decisive game or a playoff game could be played in Chicago as well in Dec. or Jan. You have to have a QB who takes those conditions in stride. Just look at how much less the elements seemed to bother a younger, albeit lesser talented Manning. Overall Favre's game against the Giants wasn't bad, but....

2. There have been a lot of outstanding passing games in horrible conditions, when runners can't get their footing, but receivers can be less aggressive in cuts, yet still get away from reacting DBs.

3. You argue that the Packers don't have a back or line that can perform in those conditions, yet they had a record setting performance the week before against Seattle, and you said Favre "played amazing just a week earlier IN COLD WEATHER". well then, I guess the O-line and back played amazing just a week earlier in cold weather, too.