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  • #61
    Originally posted by Scott Campbell
    Originally posted by Pacopete4
    Scott, you really are unbelievable. WE HAD TO LEAN ON BRETT in a below zero game because of the fact that good ole Teddy boy cant get a sufficient Oline and RB for those types of games. Do you realize how bad that is? We had to have Brett play spectacular in BELOW ZERO. Not only is it tough to throw the ball if it was a 24 year old in those conditions, but throw in the fact that he was 38. I mean, are you really that blind to see? Brett made the bad pass, he'll tell you himself. But it shoulda NEVER, EVER, NEVER! been on his shoulders the ENTIRE GAME. We had zero running game. Repeat... ZERO running game. We'll see how he does in cold weather this season when AP's jamming it down teams throat when its those conditions. ..... oooooh and the fact that he played amazing just a week earlier IN COLD WEATHER!

    So if were in an overtime game in the playoffs, and if he's a few years younger, and if it's not so cold outside, he doesn't throw that pick?

    Wait a minute - didn't he do the same thing against Philly? Who's fault was that one?
    Darn it Scott your slipping. You forgot the one against Dallas.

    Why do any of us sometimes screw up? Given the fact we do. Should we never be allowed to forget it?

    I'm going to it right now. If you ever see Favre in a Vikings jersey then some advice. I really might consider suspecting that our Green Bay Packers are in for some serious trouble. Don't underestimate Favre as a QB. Rather respect him. I'll bet TT and MM will.

    GO PACK GO!
    ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
    ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
    ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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    • #62
      Originally posted by woodbuck27
      Originally posted by Scott Campbell
      Originally posted by Pacopete4
      Scott, you really are unbelievable. WE HAD TO LEAN ON BRETT in a below zero game because of the fact that good ole Teddy boy cant get a sufficient Oline and RB for those types of games. Do you realize how bad that is? We had to have Brett play spectacular in BELOW ZERO. Not only is it tough to throw the ball if it was a 24 year old in those conditions, but throw in the fact that he was 38. I mean, are you really that blind to see? Brett made the bad pass, he'll tell you himself. But it shoulda NEVER, EVER, NEVER! been on his shoulders the ENTIRE GAME. We had zero running game. Repeat... ZERO running game. We'll see how he does in cold weather this season when AP's jamming it down teams throat when its those conditions. ..... oooooh and the fact that he played amazing just a week earlier IN COLD WEATHER!

      So if were in an overtime game in the playoffs, and if he's a few years younger, and if it's not so cold outside, he doesn't throw that pick?

      Wait a minute - didn't he do the same thing against Philly? Who's fault was that one?
      Darn it Scott your slipping. You forgot the one against Dallas.

      The Packers have had 4 overtime playoff games in their history - none of them against Dallas.

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      • #63
        I apologize for getting this thread back on topic but I'm really glad to see this deal done before the season.

        IMO, I wouldn't say that we got GJ cheap, but it's a fair deal. He's an awesome receiver and I certainly don't mean to take anything away from him, but how successful would he be if he wasn't across the field from DD, who most of the time is drawing the double coverage and attention away from GJ? Don't get me wrong, I love all the talent we have at WR, but I'm not convinced GJ is a game changer on his own.....yet. So he doesn't deserve elite WR money.....yet!

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Scott Campbell
          Originally posted by woodbuck27
          Originally posted by Scott Campbell
          Originally posted by Pacopete4
          Scott, you really are unbelievable. WE HAD TO LEAN ON BRETT in a below zero game because of the fact that good ole Teddy boy cant get a sufficient Oline and RB for those types of games. Do you realize how bad that is? We had to have Brett play spectacular in BELOW ZERO. Not only is it tough to throw the ball if it was a 24 year old in those conditions, but throw in the fact that he was 38. I mean, are you really that blind to see? Brett made the bad pass, he'll tell you himself. But it shoulda NEVER, EVER, NEVER! been on his shoulders the ENTIRE GAME. We had zero running game. Repeat... ZERO running game. We'll see how he does in cold weather this season when AP's jamming it down teams throat when its those conditions. ..... oooooh and the fact that he played amazing just a week earlier IN COLD WEATHER!

          So if were in an overtime game in the playoffs, and if he's a few years younger, and if it's not so cold outside, he doesn't throw that pick?

          Wait a minute - didn't he do the same thing against Philly? Who's fault was that one?
          Darn it Scott your slipping. You forgot the one against Dallas.

          The Packers have had 4 overtime playoff games in their history - none of them against Dallas.
          Whatever Scott. I simply mean I re-call an important game Vs Dallas in the playoffs when Favre ran right to the sideline and passed down that line and it was picked off. I believe it was in 1996 and a huge opportunity for us.

          I can still see that play Scott but I forgave him for it.

          PACKERS!
          ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
          ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
          ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
          ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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          • #65
            Originally posted by GBRulz
            I apologize for getting this thread back on topic but I'm really glad to see this deal done before the season.

            IMO, I wouldn't say that we got GJ cheap, but it's a fair deal. He's an awesome receiver and I certainly don't mean to take anything away from him, but how successful would he be if he wasn't across the field from DD, who most of the time is drawing the double coverage and attention away from GJ? Don't get me wrong, I love all the talent we have at WR, but I'm not convinced GJ is a game changer on his own.....yet. So he doesn't deserve elite WR money.....yet!


            Hard to believe that that kind of dough isn't considered elite money. I agree.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by GBRulz
              I apologize for getting this thread back on topic but I'm really glad to see this deal done before the season.

              IMO, I wouldn't say that we got GJ cheap, but it's a fair deal. He's an awesome receiver and I certainly don't mean to take anything away from him, but how successful would he be if he wasn't across the field from DD, who most of the time is drawing the double coverage and attention away from GJ? Don't get me wrong, I love all the talent we have at WR, but I'm not convinced GJ is a game changer on his own.....yet. So he doesn't deserve elite WR money.....yet!
              SOLID. We may not have DD much longer?

              I see this as at least a stir:


              Driver calls contract talk 'no big deal,' says he's happy with Packers
              NFL.com Wire Reports


              Veteran wide receiver Donald Driver took part in his first offseason practice Wednesday, and while he acknowledged that he wants the Green Bay Packers to restructure the remaining two years of his contract, he insisted he isn't unhappy with his situation.


              "What's wrong with asking? They (the Packers) can say no," Driver said. "I'm asking for it. If I get it, I get it. If I don't, I don't. It's no big deal."

              Driver, 34, is scheduled to make $3.9 million in base salary this season and $4 million in base salary in 2010 under his current deal. He has a $2 million roster bonus for this year -- $1 million of which has reportedly already been paid -- and a roster bonus of $2.8 million in 2010.

              Portions of those non-guaranteed roster bonuses are tied to Driver being on the Packers' 45-man game-day roster each week.

              "You can't complain about that type of money," said Driver, who's entering his 11th NFL season, all with Green Bay.

              Amid reports that Driver skipped last week's practice because of a contract dispute, the wide receiver said he stayed home in Dallas because of a death in his wife's family and because his son graduated from kindergarten.

              "I can say this: It's not about adding years on," Driver said.

              Asked if he wants roster-bonus money that's not currently guaranteed to be converted into guaranteed money, Driver replied, "Yeah, you could write it that way. I want my contract reworked, but that's all. I have a job, and I'm happy about that."

              Driver said he plans on participating in the rest of the Packers' organized team activities and the mandatory minicamp, which kicks off June 22.

              The Associated Press contributed to this report.

              GO PACKERS!
              ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
              ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
              ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
              ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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              • #67
                Originally posted by GBRulz
                I apologize for getting this thread back on topic but I'm really glad to see this deal done before the season.

                IMO, I wouldn't say that we got GJ cheap, but it's a fair deal. He's an awesome receiver and I certainly don't mean to take anything away from him, but how successful would he be if he wasn't across the field from DD, who most of the time is drawing the double coverage and attention away from GJ? Don't get me wrong, I love all the talent we have at WR, but I'm not convinced GJ is a game changer on his own.....yet. So he doesn't deserve elite WR money.....yet!
                Early in the season, I think Driver/Jennings got equal attention and that allowed Jennings to excel. Late in the season, I think most of the attention was on Jennings and that allowed Driver to excel. At this point, jennings is the scary weapon and Driver is the one that beats you when you don't cover him, not the other way around but that is just my opinion.

                I'm a big Driver fan, but I think Jennings is better. I don't think he's Randy Moss or Jerry Rice (best WR's I've ever seen) but he's a Steve Smith/Hines Ward probowl caliber player. Different than both, but in that league.
                Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by woodbuck27
                  Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                  Originally posted by woodbuck27
                  Originally posted by Scott Campbell


                  So if were in an overtime game in the playoffs, and if he's a few years younger, and if it's not so cold outside, he doesn't throw that pick?

                  Wait a minute - didn't he do the same thing against Philly? Who's fault was that one?
                  Darn it Scott your slipping. You forgot the one against Dallas.

                  The Packers have had 4 overtime playoff games in their history - none of them against Dallas.
                  Whatever Scott.

                  So who is slipping?


                  It's a simple mistake that anyone of any age could make. No biggie.


                  I think it's wonderful that you forgave Favre for his pick against Dallas. What the heck - I shall forgive him for that interception too. Do I call him, or just send him a note?

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by GBRulz
                    I apologize for getting this thread back on topic but I'm really glad to see this deal done before the season.

                    IMO, I wouldn't say that we got GJ cheap, but it's a fair deal. He's an awesome receiver and I certainly don't mean to take anything away from him, but how successful would he be if he wasn't across the field from DD, who most of the time is drawing the double coverage and attention away from GJ? Don't get me wrong, I love all the talent we have at WR, but I'm not convinced GJ is a game changer on his own.....yet. So he doesn't deserve elite WR money.....yet!
                    I don't think it's Driver drawing coverage away from Jennings anymore. I think that changed late in 2007. I think teams mix up coverage against us, but I would be surprised if Driver still drew more double coverage. Jennings is the guy that can beat teams deep consistently. I would guess that teams are more afraid of Jennings now.
                    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                    • #70
                      Hallelujah for the signing! Best news I've heard all week.
                      Teamwork is what the Green Bay Packers were all about. They didn't do it for individual glory. They did it because they loved one another.
                      Vince Lombardi

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                      • #71
                        happy for such a classy cat
                        They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

                        Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by woodbuck27

                          Don't underestimate Favre as a QB. Rather respect him. I'll bet TT and MM will.

                          GO PACK GO!
                          Respect, yes, of course. Fear not as much.
                          "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by MJZiggy
                            Originally posted by woodbuck27

                            Don't underestimate Favre as a QB. Rather respect him. I'll bet TT and MM will.

                            GO PACK GO!
                            Respect, yes, of course. Fear not as much.


                            ooooh I don't know about that one. They may fear him a ton since they'll be trying to stop the run so much, they know he could go off at any moment. Giving him a top RB, maybe of all time, and who knows what this cat can do.. even at 40.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by GBRulz
                              I apologize for getting this thread back on topic but I'm really glad to see this deal done before the season.

                              IMO, I wouldn't say that we got GJ cheap, but it's a fair deal. He's an awesome receiver and I certainly don't mean to take anything away from him, but how successful would he be if he wasn't across the field from DD, who most of the time is drawing the double coverage and attention away from GJ? Don't get me wrong, I love all the talent we have at WR, but I'm not convinced GJ is a game changer on his own.....yet. So he doesn't deserve elite WR money.....yet!
                              How dare you! Actually, I think it's very much a complementary situation right now. Both are good enough to make defenses pay if the defense pays too much attention to the other guy. Teams probably fear Jennings more, but Driver can still be dangerous.
                              I can't run no more with that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up a thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Joemailman

                                How dare you! Actually, I think it's very much a complementary situation right now. Both are good enough to make defenses pay if the defense pays too much attention to the other guy. Teams probably fear Jennings more, but Driver can still be dangerous.
                                And his mom is an absolute sweetheart!
                                "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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