What Caused the Demise of the 60's Packers?

[Fritz]

Woodbuck, another point... Did you ever listen to the difference between the young Sinatra and the old Sinatra? The young voice was pure and innocent sounding. The old voice had character and a deeper register.

It was the cigarettes.

Maybe Woodbuck needs to buy Celine Dion a carton of Camels.

[Freak Out]

Off topic, but it's also interesting to note the dramatic cultural changes that have taken place in the generation since that time. OPF made reference to Vince's smoking habit that ultimately took his life. I collect old Packer video clips and I have one where Max McGhee is interviewed in the locker room after a game while getting dressed, and he, and many other players, are smoking a cig right in the locker room, on film while being interviewed. It seems strange to me today to know that was common practice back then. What would happen today if James Jones or AJ Hawk lit up after the game while being interviewed on Packers.com?

Not to nitpick, but didn't Lombardi die of colon cancer?

My father has had both bladder and colon cancer and both were directly related to his years of smoking.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Off topic, but it's also interesting to note the dramatic cultural changes that have taken place in the generation since that time. OPF made reference to Vince's smoking habit that ultimately took his life. I collect old Packer video clips and I have one where Max McGhee is interviewed in the locker room after a game while getting dressed, and he, and many other players, are smoking a cig right in the locker room, on film while being interviewed. It seems strange to me today to know that was common practice back then. What would happen today if James Jones or AJ Hawk lit up after the game while being interviewed on Packers.com?

Not to nitpick, but didn't Lombardi die of colon cancer?

My father has had both bladder and colon cancer and both were directly related to his years of smoking.

Whoa! Hold on, son! I want you to keep an open mind so you can make an informed decision! If you want, you can read a bloated government report on smoking, or go straight to the horse's mouth and get the facts from the tobacco industry.

[hoosier]

Off topic, but it's also interesting to note the dramatic cultural changes that have taken place in the generation since that time. OPF made reference to Vince's smoking habit that ultimately took his life. I collect old Packer video clips and I have one where Max McGhee is interviewed in the locker room after a game while getting dressed, and he, and many other players, are smoking a cig right in the locker room, on film while being interviewed. It seems strange to me today to know that was common practice back then. What would happen today if James Jones or AJ Hawk lit up after the game while being interviewed on Packers.com?

Not to nitpick, but didn't Lombardi die of colon cancer?

My father has had both bladder and colon cancer and both were directly related to his years of smoking.

But the difference is that lots of nonsmokers get colon cancer too. Lung cancer not so much. There's definitely a correlation between smoking and colon and bladder cancers, yes. But based on the numbers, smoking clearly isn't the main cause with many people.

[oregonpackfan]

My own mother, a smoker of unfiltered cigararettes, also had bladder cancer. She had two other forms of cancer--both smoking related.

In a local science museum, I remember showing my daughter a display of a h lung from a non-smoker and a lung from a smoker. The lung from the non-smoker was a healthy pinkish color. The lung from the smoker was charcoal gray. Hopefully, it made an impression on my daughter.

[MJZiggy]

My brother, while recovering from his heart attack and bypass surgery at 39 years old, showed his sons the fresh surgical scars that resulted from his smoking. Funny, none of them smoke...