Official Packers/Browns Thread (Preseason Ver)

[woodbuck27]

Story of our first pre-season game a 17-0 win over the Browns.

Packers have options at running back.

Starting RB Ryan Grant ran for 28 yards and one touchdown in the first quarter, but Green Bay's four other tailbacks performed well, too. Tyrell Sutton, Kregg Lumpkin, Brandon Jackson and DeShawn Wynn combined for 202 rushing yards and likely will make the coaches' roster decisions a little tougher.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter?game_id=54734&displayPage=tab_gamecenter&season=2009&week=PRE1

[Lurker64]

The roster's going to be interesting this year. Is there room for 6 RB/FBs on the roster? It's likely we only keep 2 TE with Humphrey out for the season, so maybe?

[woodbuck27]

Rodgers, Packers look sharp in shutout of Browns

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/recap?game_id=54734&displayPage=tab_recap

[pasquale]

i heard cutler sucked tonight. lol

Two picks...maybe one...not sure.

He had one pick. Nothing major. The Offense two top weapons did not even play, Forte and Olsen. Plus the Best O-lineman did not play (Orlando Pace). He looked hesitant on some throws but did ok on the very vanilla plays they called while he was in there.

No reason for concern on my end. I look at possession players and see how they are working out. I am never concerned after the first preseason game. The lions look good every preseason, but you see how they turn out. Some teams run VERY vanilla calls on both side of the ball just to see what they need to install. And some teams go into preseason with plays they will run frequently in the regular season, only then the teams have tape on it and they go nowhere..ala Detroit.

I think the main problem may be that Orlando Pace is your best OL.

Umm, and that would make him still better than anyone the pack has on their O-line. Did you forget who had the worst o-line play last year? The False start kings? come on man.

But enough about the Bears in a thread about the Packers preseason game. Just make a thread that says Bears suck, and I will gladly join in there.

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/2_1024_Off._Hog_Index.html

Facts suck.

Waldo is the best.

[Dabaddestbear]

i heard cutler sucked tonight. lol

Two picks...maybe one...not sure.

He had one pick. Nothing major. The Offense two top weapons did not even play, Forte and Olsen. Plus the Best O-lineman did not play (Orlando Pace). He looked hesitant on some throws but did ok on the very vanilla plays they called while he was in there.

No reason for concern on my end. I look at possession players and see how they are working out. I am never concerned after the first preseason game. The lions look good every preseason, but you see how they turn out. Some teams run VERY vanilla calls on both side of the ball just to see what they need to install. And some teams go into preseason with plays they will run frequently in the regular season, only then the teams have tape on it and they go nowhere..ala Detroit.

I think the main problem may be that Orlando Pace is your best OL.

Umm, and that would make him still better than anyone the pack has on their O-line. Did you forget who had the worst o-line play last year? The False start kings? come on man.

But enough about the Bears in a thread about the Packers preseason game. Just make a thread that says Bears suck, and I will gladly join in there.

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/2_1024_Off._Hog_Index.html

Facts suck.

Waldo is the best.

uh, those stats dont tell the entire story and anyone that watched both teams knows that. A better QB will of course make it so that the line averages more yards.
No one on here that actually watched both teams play could honestly say the Packers had a better O-line. No running lanes, plenty of false starts, and holds galore stopped many drives for the Packers last year. Bears problems were WR drops and inconsistent QB play that obviously led to less yards per play. Those are the most lame stats ever.

[woodbuck27]

Aaron Rodgers shows us some fine play in a 17-0 win over the Browns.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d811ed1ae/Pre-WK-1-Aaron-Rodgers-highlights

[woodbuck27]

http://www.nfl.com/videos/green-bay-packers/09000d5d811dedcd/Aaron-Rodgers-interview

Aaron Rodgers interview

Published: Aug. 13, 2009

Packers QB Aaron Rodgers looks back at his first season as a starter and discusses his expectations for 2009.


GO PACK GO!

[Scott Campbell]

i heard cutler sucked tonight. lol

Two picks...maybe one...not sure.

He had one pick. Nothing major. The Offense two top weapons did not even play, Forte and Olsen. Plus the Best O-lineman did not play (Orlando Pace). He looked hesitant on some throws but did ok on the very vanilla plays they called while he was in there.

No reason for concern on my end. I look at possession players and see how they are working out. I am never concerned after the first preseason game. The lions look good every preseason, but you see how they turn out. Some teams run VERY vanilla calls on both side of the ball just to see what they need to install. And some teams go into preseason with plays they will run frequently in the regular season, only then the teams have tape on it and they go nowhere..ala Detroit.

I think the main problem may be that Orlando Pace is your best OL.

Umm, and that would make him still better than anyone the pack has on their O-line. Did you forget who had the worst o-line play last year? The False start kings? come on man.

But enough about the Bears in a thread about the Packers preseason game. Just make a thread that says Bears suck, and I will gladly join in there.

http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/2_1024_Off._Hog_Index.html

Facts suck.

Waldo is the best.

[woodbuck27]

Aaron Rodgers finds WR Donald Driver for a 53-yd TD vs. the Browns.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/green-bay-packers/09000d5d811eceb6/Pre-WK-1-Can-t-Miss-Play-Rodgers-TD-bomb

[Partial]

How can they not start DBishop? Dude had what, 4, 5 hits on the QB tonight? Dude was everywhere!

I was at a bar watching the game so I wasn't wathcing as closely as I would have liked. Bishop, Lumpkin and Sutton jumped out to me. Rodgers looked very good and Jones looked very good. Grant looked fast. This O should be extremely good. Jolly played behind MM... really? MM is JAG.

Anyone see Hawk do anything but get blown up?

[Partial]

Man... How comfortable does Rodgers look. He has always had a strong arm coming out of college, but he has looked much better than anticipated - especially being a Tedford product. How much of that do you think is attributed to him sitting for 3 years with no pressure?

A lot. He looked very good tonight. Definitely less skittish than last year imo. Then again, it is the Browns so I'll continue being fair and withholding judgement.

[wist43]

Some observations... although I haven't gone thru the whole game:

I tried to watch a few guys closely to see if areas of weakness had been shored up...

Barbre - if he doesn't figure out how to move his feet, he's going to get Rodgers killed. He gets into his set okay most of the time, but then anchors as if expecting the rusher to play the dancing bear game with him. If a rusher takes his outside shoulder, feigns an inside move with a punch and stutter step, Barbre is beat every time... simple stuff, but Barbre doesn't seem to get it.

Wells - all 5'8" 240 lbs of him... if he's our starting center, the entire line will suffer. No surprise he got pushed back into Rodgers lap far too easily. He can stay in front of his guy most of the time, but he gives far too much ground in the middle. The middle of the line held up much better with Spitz at C.

Bishop - looked okay, can't say anything bad about his performance, but at the same time, you have to look at what Cleveland was, or was not doing. They did an absolutely terrible job of picking up fairly simple crosses and stunts. Against a team that is assignment sure, and has game planned, it's a different story; so, take it with a grain of salt.

Kampman - looked like a fish out of water. Wasn't on the field much, but looked like a DE trying to play LB. Didn't look comfortable. Once teams get some film on the Packer defense, they will game plan to match Kampman up in coverage. I expect he'll still get his share of sacks, but he's not playing his natural position, and that has got to have a negative effective on him. As I said, he didn't look comfortable.

Finley - looks the part. Expecting a good season from him, if not a big season. Didn't look at his blocking, only scanned the game once.

Running backs - as others have said, they all looked good. Lumpkin, Sutton, and Wynn would seem to be fighting for 1/2 spots.

Liked some of what I saw - Jolly, Jarius Wynn, Obiozor, Flynn.

[pbmax]

Barbre definitely whiffed on a couple of wide rushes that I saw. And Colledge might still be our second best LT, even though I don't think its his best spot going forward. Its too bad Meredith hasn't merited more time with the 2s. Moll had some trouble. Hope to see improvement.

Bishop looks great going forward, but on his Int in landed in his lap immediately after he turned around running back to his zone. He was behind the WR, hard to say if he was late or simply taking a normal drop. Either way, it was a gift-but kudos to him for hanging on to it.

Kampman had one pass completed into his zone that I saw, it was between defenders and they dropped the guy. Exactly what he was supposed to happen. My answer to wist's fear of AK getting singled up is that if an offense does that, they will be exposed to an overloaded blitz from the opposite side. Then its a race.

The defense all around failed to get home a number of times, but some DBs looked good in blitz, esp. Blackmon and the rookie Underwood.

And I agree with wist and the previous poster that Jolly was everywhere. Jenkins was the end on the busted contain of Cribbs end around, but I haven't seen it addressed whether he shared blame with Popp and Collins for abandoning the edge.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.packers.com/news/stories/2009/08/15/4/

Story of first pre-season game fr. Packers.com.

"I thought as a whole for our football team, it was a good solid starting point," Head Coach Mike McCarthy said. "There were a lot of positives to come out of this game. And there are some negatives and we have to make sure we learn from that. The thing that I was most impressed with was the tempo that our team played with on both sides of the ball."

Statistically, the most startling numbers were two things the Packers would like to see carry over into the regular season -

running the ball and stopping the run.

Five different running backs combined to give Green Bay 230 rushing yards while the defense held Cleveland to just 59. That led to a domination in time of possession (39 minutes, 56 seconds to 20:04) that prevented the Browns from ever getting back into the game.

"I think it was a great start for us to be able to score on both of our possessions," Rodgers said. "I thought the line did a great job controlling the line of scrimmage the entire game. We ran the ball for 230 yards, and especially the first group, I had all day to throw. To be able to have three-plus seconds to throw the ball, you're going to be successful in those situations." Aaron Rodgers

Inspite of the fact this win was over the weak Cleveland Browns there is alot to encourage Packer fans as our team demonstrated big play potential on both sides of the ball, Running for 230 yards is huge. Our 'D' limited the Browns to 59 yards on the ground. We saw good competition at both running back and linebacker. All big plus's for the Packer coaching staffs in terms of selecting the best possible 53 man roster.


Who was the MVP for the Packers vs. Cleveland?

Defense 42% Aaron Rodgers 30% Tyrell Sutton 15% Donald Driver 11%

Total Votes: 7,553

GO PACKERS!

[red]

no desmond bishop for POG voting?