Transactions Involving Former Packers

[Patler]

I've never heard of the punter referred to as a kicker. Or, using the term kicker to describe both punters and kickers...as a general catchall. Maybe that is a southern thing, but i've never heard it.

I said i assumed the 3 includes the punter. What part of being a smartass is that?

Back in the days before so much specialization, they referred to two types of kicking, punting and "placement", and the practitioners of each were called "kickers". Field goal and extra point kickers were called "placement kickers". "The kicking game" referred to both placement and punting, as did the "kicking units" or "kicking teams". As the placement kickers and punters became more specialists and less everyday players, they began calling them just "kickers" and "punters".

"Kicking camps" used to be held for both punting and placement.

I still refer to both at times as "kickers".

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I've never heard of the punter referred to as a kicker. Or, using the term kicker to describe both punters and kickers...as a general catchall. Maybe that is a southern thing, but i've never heard it.

I said i assumed the 3 includes the punter. What part of being a smartass is that?

Back in the days before so much specialization, they referred to two types of kicking, punting and "placement", and the practitioners of each were called "kickers". Field goal and extra point kickers were called "placement kickers". "The kicking game" referred to both placement and punting, as did the "kicking units" or "kicking teams". As the placement kickers and punters became more specialists and less everyday players, they began calling them just "kickers" and "punters".

"Kicking camps" used to be held for both punting and placement.

I still refer to both at times as "kickers".

Interesting. I hadn't heard of it referred to it that way.

Kicking camps: I think that does sound familiar.

though, i'm from the "punt, pass, kick" contest gen...so i think you can see the confusion.

[Patler]

I've never heard of the punter referred to as a kicker. Or, using the term kicker to describe both punters and kickers...as a general catchall. Maybe that is a southern thing, but i've never heard it.

I said i assumed the 3 includes the punter. What part of being a smartass is that?

Back in the days before so much specialization, they referred to two types of kicking, punting and "placement", and the practitioners of each were called "kickers". Field goal and extra point kickers were called "placement kickers". "The kicking game" referred to both placement and punting, as did the "kicking units" or "kicking teams". As the placement kickers and punters became more specialists and less everyday players, they began calling them just "kickers" and "punters".

"Kicking camps" used to be held for both punting and placement.

I still refer to both at times as "kickers".

Interesting. I hadn't heard of it referred to it that way.

Kicking camps: I think that does sound familiar.

though, i'm from the "punt, pass, kick" contest gen...so i think you can see the confusion.

To go back even more, and resurrect a term about which you will probably say "Oh ya, that's right," there used to be four types of kickers used, a kick-off kicker, a punt kicker, a placement kicker and a drop kicker. Drop kicking went out a long time ago, but somebody tried one back in the '80s or early '90s (Heck, maybe it was the '70s!). Hadn't been a drop kick attempt in the NFL since something like the 1950's before that. I'm not sure the rules even allow for it now.

[Lurker64]

Hadn't been a drop kick attempt in the NFL since something like the 1950's before that. I'm not sure the rules even allow for it now.

They still do, it's just not at all common. The most recent complete copy of the rulebook I have is the 2006 one, but I doubt many of the kicking rules have changed.

A drop kick is legal as a free kick and a scrimmage kick, it just almost never happens. Doug Flutie kicked an extra point as a drop kick a few years back, IIRC. They lined him up in the shotgun with an empty backfield on the point-after-touchdown as though they were going for two, and when they snapped it to him, he just dropkicked it through and the try was good.

[Tarlam!]

I remember there being a big deal about Doug Flutie's final game where he drop kicked an XP or something....

[Tarlam!]

Lurker beat me to it. Again...

[Patler]

Hadn't been a drop kick attempt in the NFL since something like the 1950's before that. I'm not sure the rules even allow for it now.

They still do, it's just not at all common. The most recent complete copy of the rulebook I have is the 2006 one, but I doubt many of the kicking rules have changed.

A drop kick is legal as a free kick and a scrimmage kick, it just almost never happens. Doug Flutie kicked an extra point as a drop kick a few years back, IIRC. They lined him up in the shotgun with an empty backfield on the point-after-touchdown as though they were going for two, and when they snapped it to him, he just dropkicked it through and the try was good.

Flutie!! That was the one! Now I remember! Thanks Lurker!
(Why was I thinking it was so long ago?)

[Patler]

Everything is on video now days. Fluties drop kick:

Found an article that said the last succesful one in the NFL before Flutie was in 1941.

I have a vague recollection of someone on the Packers attempting but missing in the 1960s. Any other old timers remember that?

[Patler]

OK, why when I posted a youtube link did my message disappear? By editing and erasing the link the text came back.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Patler,

Are you saying they kept a specific player for drop kicks. I was familiar with the drop kick, but i thought it was executed by a regular player and was more of a surprise type tactic.

I thought it was more a off a skill set a well rounded back had....as opposed to kicking which usually had one player that did that job...though that player would also play another position.

[Patler]

Patler,

Are you saying they kept a specific player for drop kicks. I was familiar with the drop kick, but i thought it was executed by a regular player and was more of a surprise type tactic.

I thought it was more a off a skill set a well rounded back had....as opposed to kicking which usually had one player that did that job...though that player would also play another position.

All I'm saying is that a player with the capability was a drop kicker. "Drop" is another of the types of kicks and kickers. That said, not everyone had the skill, and my understanding is that at one time for some teams it was used rather than a "placement" kicker for field goals, so it wasn't necessarily always a surprise play.

[KYPack]

I've never heard of the punter referred to as a kicker. Or, using the term kicker to describe both punters and kickers...as a general catchall. Maybe that is a southern thing, but i've never heard it.

I said i assumed the 3 includes the punter. What part of being a smartass is that?

It's probably generational. I was being snarky. I mainly was barking at you bc I had a rough day and didn't want to be accused of being loaded on Juleps. Use Maker's Mark for those, BTW. Kentucky's finest bourbon.

To me, all kickers are kickers, but maybe the term has evolved over time.

My freshman high school team drop kicked our extra points. it was hard to find a holder and snapper, so we just let our FG guy drop kick 'em. He never missed.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I've never heard of the punter referred to as a kicker. Or, using the term kicker to describe both punters and kickers...as a general catchall. Maybe that is a southern thing, but i've never heard it.

I said i assumed the 3 includes the punter. What part of being a smartass is that?

It's probably generational. I was being snarky. I mainly was barking at you bc I had a rough day and didn't want to be accused of being loaded on Juleps. Use Maker's Mark for those, BTW. Kentucky's finest bourbon.

To me, all kickers are kickers, but maybe the term has evolved over time.

My freshman high school team drop kicked our extra points. it was hard to find a holder and snapper, so we just let our FG guy drop kick 'em. He never missed.

Maker's Mark...finest bourbon. Sir, them is fighting words.

Ty much prefers:

bookers, blanton's, elijah craig, baker's 107, hancock's, and rock hill.

Choose your weapon...ty prefer's pistol's at dawn.

[Packgator]

Re: Transactions Involving Former Packers

I find it interesting to follow players with Packer ties.

Ahmad Carroll (CB) has signed with the Calgary Stampeders.

DeShawn Wynn (RB) has signed with the New Orleans Saints.

[VermontPackFan]

I see Tracy White is a starting linebacker for the Eagles, is it our Tracy White?

How about Aaron Rouse? Last I heard he was cut by the Giants last year?

Paris Lenon is still playing with someone...Lions? Panthers?