It's Official: Favre is the enemy

[sharpe1027]

However, I never said there was an error in your thinking -- I said it was a personal preference. Can you say the same?

honestly YES!!

No problem then.

I was mostly reacting to your use of the words evolved and gay. I assumed from the context that you equated "Gay" with something wrong and "evolved" to mean improved..so by calling my position "gay" and yourself "evolved" I assumed you meant mine was wrong and inferior.

If I understand your explanation, it was not your intent to state that my position was wrong/inferior. Instead, you were mostly stating what your personal preference was.

[Pugger]

What is interesting is to go over and read a Jets forum these days. 98% of them are saying "screw Favre" and some are donating their #4 jerseys to Goodwill. They were all giddy last summer but now they are jaded knowing Favre never really wanted to come to NY. A lot of them moan about how BF faded down the stretch and are none to pleased to hear he had that arm problem last season but still trotted out onto the field and played anyway. Then they really get foaming at the mouth towards Mangini. There was one fella who was questioning the motive of the Jets giving us that 7th round pick too. He said the Jets should be thankful GB isn't making a big stink about it.

[MOBB DEEP]

However, I never said there was an error in your thinking -- I said it was a personal preference. Can you say the same?

honestly YES!!

No problem then.

I was mostly reacting to your use of the words evolved and gay. I assumed from the context that you equated "Gay" with something wrong and "evolved" to mean improved..so by calling my position "gay" and yourself "evolved" I assumed you meant mine was wrong and inferior.

If I understand your explanation, it was not your intent to state that my position was wrong/inferior. Instead, you were mostly stating what your personal preference was.

bingo....

[MOBB DEEP]

What is interesting is to go over and read a Jets forum these days. 98% of them are saying "screw Favre" and some are donating their #4 jerseys to Goodwill. They were all giddy last summer but now they are jaded knowing Favre never really wanted to come to NY. A lot of them moan about how BF faded down the stretch and are none to pleased to hear he had that arm problem last season but still trotted out onto the field and played anyway. Then they really get foaming at the mouth towards Mangini. There was one fella who was questioning the motive of the Jets giving us that 7th round pick too. He said the Jets should be thankful GB isn't making a big stink about it.

interesting...

and you're right; they were SO giddy last year

and when i attended the jets last game v phins in december, cats in the crowd were BRUTAL towards mangini

[woodbuck27]

Favre is not the enemy. The Vikings are the enemy. Does anyone single out AD? Not really. Hate the team, love the individuals.

Make no mistake, Favre is the enemy - and then some.


He is going to get the ugliest Lambeau reception of any returning player in history.

How much noise can you make Scott?

[mraynrand]

Favre is not the enemy. The Vikings are the enemy. Does anyone single out AD? Not really. Hate the team, love the individuals.

Make no mistake, Favre is the enemy - and then some.


He is going to get the ugliest Lambeau reception of any returning player in history.

How much noise can you make Scott?

One can only hope.

[woodbuck27]

Here's the deal:

And this isn't original with me, but I agree - yes, we love the team, and by and large the players come and go. However, it's in the league's interest to promote any player who appears to be the guy who stars with one team his whole career. So you connect the guy and the jersey, creating the myth that there is loyalty in the game, that it's more than business.

The media and fans jumped on the Favre bandwagon - and so did Favre. He made many comments about not being able to imagine playing elsewhere, about never wanting to play any where else, and so on. So all of us - well, almost all of us - bought into the myth. He was like Bart Starr or Don Hutson or Ray Nitschke.

Then cracks appeared in the facade. Favre still claimed he always wanted to be a Packer, but he also suggested at one point that maybe the Pack should just cut him if they felt he was no longer good enough (I think this was after that 8-8 season). He started hemming and hawing every offseason. And then after he retired and sorta unretired and re-retired, it seemed to some that he was trying to get out of GB.

In sum, he's just a football player like everyone else and it's really a business and there's very little loyalty in the nfl. Our myth has been shattered. So many people are pissed.

I'm pissed because Favre is still pretending that all he ever wanted was to QB the Green Bay Packers, and that the Packers cruelly cast him aside. That's bullshit, in my book. He said he always wanted to be a Packer, yet he's now going to have played for not one but two other teams. He said during the Joe Buck interview it wouldn't be fair to the Vikings to let them wait any longer than a week or two before training camp, yet he waited until a couple days before to make a decision - and then he changed his mind two weeks into camp.

He's still trying to pretend it's not just a business and that somehow he's different. But it's a business and he's not any different. If anything, he's become worse than others because once he had the power to manipulate the system, he did.

If he could be up front about the whole thing I'd have some grudging respect. But he's not upfront at all.

At all.

Now, I think that Favre thinks he is. I think he believes his own BS - how else could the guy do what he does and live with himself?

But just because he believes it doesn't make it okay.

Wow ! Wow !! Wow !!!

Alot of thought in that post Fritz. I think that Favre just wants to play football Fritz. To play at a reasonable level and have some sense of possibly helping his team advance deep in the playoffs.

As far as Favre and being a traitor. That's just nonsense. The Green Bay Packers gave up on Brett Favre. He hasn't given up on himself yet. He found what is obviously for himself a perfect fit. That fit just happened to be with our rival. The Vikings. He's a Pro athlete and not only does signing with the Vikings give him real hope it extends all manners of records and the money he's receiving is just fantastic.

We don't live in a perfect world and certainly Brett Favre is about to experience the truth in that. I hope he's ready for it all. It will be hot at times at Packerrats. I just hope we can wither the Favre ' as a Viking ' storm with some sense of decency and dignity.

GO PACK GO!

[Scott Campbell]

I think that Favre just wants to play football Fritz.......

........as long as it doesn't mean hot August two a days and sleeping in dorm rooms with the cheap help.

[Scott Campbell]

As far as Favre and being a traitor. That's just nonsense.

......called Matt Millen during game week........about "hunting"........


He's traitor scum. If he wasn't a traitor, he'd get a warm reception in Lambeau. And that ain't gonna happen.

[Bossman641]

Here's the deal:

And this isn't original with me, but I agree - yes, we love the team, and by and large the players come and go. However, it's in the league's interest to promote any player who appears to be the guy who stars with one team his whole career. So you connect the guy and the jersey, creating the myth that there is loyalty in the game, that it's more than business.

The media and fans jumped on the Favre bandwagon - and so did Favre. He made many comments about not being able to imagine playing elsewhere, about never wanting to play any where else, and so on. So all of us - well, almost all of us - bought into the myth. He was like Bart Starr or Don Hutson or Ray Nitschke.

Then cracks appeared in the facade. Favre still claimed he always wanted to be a Packer, but he also suggested at one point that maybe the Pack should just cut him if they felt he was no longer good enough (I think this was after that 8-8 season). He started hemming and hawing every offseason. And then after he retired and sorta unretired and re-retired, it seemed to some that he was trying to get out of GB.

In sum, he's just a football player like everyone else and it's really a business and there's very little loyalty in the nfl. Our myth has been shattered. So many people are pissed.

I'm pissed because Favre is still pretending that all he ever wanted was to QB the Green Bay Packers, and that the Packers cruelly cast him aside. That's bullshit, in my book. He said he always wanted to be a Packer, yet he's now going to have played for not one but two other teams. He said during the Joe Buck interview it wouldn't be fair to the Vikings to let them wait any longer than a week or two before training camp, yet he waited until a couple days before to make a decision - and then he changed his mind two weeks into camp.

He's still trying to pretend it's not just a business and that somehow he's different. But it's a business and he's not any different. If anything, he's become worse than others because once he had the power to manipulate the system, he did.

If he could be up front about the whole thing I'd have some grudging respect. But he's not upfront at all.

At all.

Now, I think that Favre thinks he is. I think he believes his own BS - how else could the guy do what he does and live with himself?

But just because he believes it doesn't make it okay.

Wow ! Wow !! Wow !!!

Alot of thought in that post Fritz. I think that Favre just wants to play football Fritz. To play at a reasonable level and have some sense of possibly helping his team advance deep in the playoffs.

As far as Favre and being a traitor. That's just nonsense. The Green Bay Packers gave up on Brett Favre. He hasn't given up on himself yet. He found what is obviously for himself a perfect fit. That fit just happened to be with our rival. The Vikings. He's a Pro athlete and not only does signing with the Vikings give him real hope it extends all manners of records and the money he's receiving is just fantastic.

We don't live in a perfect world and certainly Brett Favre is about to experience the truth in that. I hope he's ready for it all. It will be hot at times at Packerrats. I just hope we can wither the Favre ' as a Viking ' storm with some sense of decency and dignity.

GO PACK GO!

HE RETIRED. Then he was offered his job back AND HE REFUSED.

[woodbuck27]

As far as Favre and being a traitor. That's just nonsense.

......called Matt Millen during game week........about "hunting"........


He's traitor scum. If he wasn't a traitor, he'd get a warm reception in Lambeau. And that ain't gonna happen.

"called Matt Millen during game week........about "hunting"........" SC

Can you expand and or elaborate on that with press releases Scott?

[MadtownPacker]

As far as Favre and being a traitor. That's just nonsense.

......called Matt Millen during game week........about "hunting"........


He's traitor scum. If he wasn't a traitor, he'd get a warm reception in Lambeau. And that ain't gonna happen.

Technically he was no longer a Packer so he wasnt a traitor just a bitter dude. Why should he be expected to show loyalty if he is no longer on the team? For the good times before? IF so you have to hold yourself to those same standards.

[Scott Campbell]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8694746/Sunday-Scoops:-Is-Favre-guilty-of-insider-trading

[MadtownPacker]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8694746/Sunday-Scoops:-Is-Favre-guilty-of-insider-trading

Again, no longer wearing G&G.

[Scott Campbell]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/8694746/Sunday-Scoops:-Is-Favre-guilty-of-insider-trading

Again, no longer wearing G&G.

Ain't buyin it. His beef was with Ted, not Driver. Not Harris. Not Jennings. Not Clifton. Not Spitz. Not Hawk. Not Woodson. Not...................


High treason. And you're right about him not wearing G&G. He's not worthy of the colors, and never will be.