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I don't see how. He's coming off a very average year so his trade value is probably less than his actual value to the team. The guy most people are proposing to replace him - Bishop - has serious deficiencies in his game, which tend to get overlooked sometimes because he makes big hits."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Big salary too.Comment
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According to Ben Maller on rumor section on foxsports.com there are many packers up for trade. Including:
LB AJ Hawk
T/G Tony Moll
LB Brady Poppinga
S Aaron Rouse
QB Brian Brohm
DB Jarrett BushThe measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
Vince Lombardi
"Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.Comment
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Lets trade all of them!Originally posted by Fosco33Comment
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I'd be fine with trading any of those except for Hawk. Trading Hawk would be the biggest mistake TT could make. He had a down year last year and now people wanna trade him. He will never be Ray Lewis, but he can be a very good LB with an attitude that this team needs.Originally posted by Fosco33
I hope TT sees that."I've got one word for you- Dallas, Texas, Super Bowl"- Jermichael FinleyComment
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Have not seen the on-field attitude you mention. Lets hope it surfaces today.Originally posted by BallHawkComment
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He didn't mention *on-field* attitude... which I'd argue there was a fair amount of even last year.Originally posted by rbaloha
He said 'attitude'. The guy comes to work, sets an example for guys around him and has played just about every snap since coming in the league. I realize we all have higher hopes for him, but he's definitely been an asset to the team from day 1.Comment
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Agreed. Is it possible for Hawk to start making impact plays?Originally posted by missionComment
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One thing that should be noted as it speaks to the depth of our team that we could afford to cut lose a #5 pick and be fine.Comment
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Agreed but maybe this is too much. Hawk certainly has some sort of trade value.Originally posted by PartialComment
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The JSO started this. Here is an exchange I had with Bedard on twitter:
Waldo56 - People need to stop with this trade AJ nonsense. There is a 7M dead cap hit if he is traded. It ain't happening.Waldo56 - @Greg_A_Bedard Does McGinn understand the concept of a dead cap hit? TT ain't going to flush 7M down the toilet to trade Hawk.Greg_A_Bedard - People have been asking about this. By my calculations, it wouldn't cost the Packers much to trade/cut A.J. Hawk, believe it or not.Greg_A_Bedard - $11.85 mill of his $15 mill guaranteed was paid in an option bonus and it's not amortized. In fact, Hawk won't see the 2011 year of his dealWaldo56 - @Greg_A_Bedard Option bonuses are amortized Greg. Roster bonuses are not. An option bonus is a signing bonus not paid at signing.Waldo56 - @Greg_A_Bedard By my calculations Hawk has a hair over 7M in amortized bonus remaing.Greg_A_Bedard - @Waldo56 I don't think so. It was guaranteed. But I could very well be wrong. I'm waiting for an answer from my smarter colleagues.Greg_A_Bedard - @Waldo56 was correct @TomSilverstein says it would cost Packers an additional $6.9 mill to cut/trade Hawk this yr. #iAmAnIdiot #packersGreg Bedard......Greg_A_Bedard - Don't see that happening. But next year, when there's no cap and he's due a $10 mill base in '11? That's more likely.
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rbaloha - i have a hunch that capers scheme will allow a lot more of our guys a chance to make some impact plays. just because he's not blowing up the spot in TC doesn't mean he's not more productive on gameday. maybe/hopefully, we'll see some signs of it tonight.
partial - we *think* we'd be fine if we lost hawk. that's just assumed in discussion right now ... a couple injuries and we're singing a different tune as hawk goes on to a pro bowl season with the bears :PComment
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That list from foxsports is just McGinn/JSO regurgitated. Unless they offer additional details or sources, its just repeating what you read in the paper.
Nice job Waldo. Keep their feet to the fire.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.Comment
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i thought about that last night when KCs 3-4 was up in favres grill in both series he played...also they stuffed AP nicely on 4th down and LBs were keyOriginally posted by mission
we have bettr athletes than KC incld. AJ so he SHOULD make more plays
if not, it may be time to move him despite his character....my hopes may have been to high. its time nowThey said God has a Tim Tebow complex!
Brew Crew in 2011!!!Comment
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