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  • #31
    Re: What to do at Right Tackle?

    Originally posted by Deputy Nutz
    I say get the Italian guy ready from Louisville, but chaulk this performance up to nerves, but don't give Barbre a free pass.
    You gotta be kidding me. Giacomini is a big slug, even less agile than Barbre. He is a practice squad type guy.

    Barbre is what he is - a good drive blocker, probably should be playing at right guard.

    IF you want to point fingers, I would say take aim at TT. They have zero depth at tackle.

    I know they don't want to do it, but Colledge needs to play right tackle.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by esoxx
      chip w/ a back or motion TE to help out Barbre until he gets it's going.
      Or sign Tauchser and cut Breno.
      I am fine with signing Tauscher if he can walk.

      Everybody keeps saying they didn't give Barbre any help. I saw just the opposite, starting with the second offensive series. The tight ends were taking shots at Ogunleye. I saw backs-help out too, although they were ineffective.

      Ogunleye is a monster when he's 100% healthy.

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      • #33
        That's the thing. I don't think Tauscher is physically able to play yet. I'm hoping a couple of games against lesser D linemen the next 2 weeks will help with Barbre's confidence and blocking before we go to MN.

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        • #34
          I don't think Barbre could have looked any worse. Ogunleye beat him with a couple speed rushes to the outside early on. Once that happened you could tell Barbre was completely out of synch. He started overplaying the speed rush and then Ogunleye was beating him with counter moves to the inside.

          I think we are going to have to live and die with Barbre. Give him some help early on next week to get his confidence up a little and see how it goes from there.

          I think everybody had a bit of week 1 jitters. Rodgers seemed off, WR were dropping passes left and right.
          Go PACK

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          • #35
            Re: What to do at Right Tackle?

            Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
            I know they don't want to do it, but Colledge needs to play right tackle.
            Absolutely.
            Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
              I am fine with signing Tauscher if he can walk.

              Everybody keeps saying they didn't give Barbre any help. I saw just the opposite, starting with the second offensive series. The tight ends were taking shots at Ogunleye. I saw backs-help out too, although they were ineffective.

              Ogunleye is a monster when he's 100% healthy.
              QFT.

              Og is a handful. They showed a good replay where he did an inside counter on Barbre, blew through a chip block (Lee?) and got a hand on Rodgers almost before he finished his drop.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Bossman641
                I think we are going to have to live and die with Barbre. Give him some help early on next week to get his confidence up a little and see how it goes from there.
                Just like when Adrian Klemm and Will Whitiker failed miserably, the Packers had to replace them midseason with someone less bad.

                I hate to say it, but TT's misfires at guard a few years ago are playing out at the right tackle position this season. It was obvious in the preseason that the PAckers were EXTREMELY vulnerable at tackle, especially right tackle, with no experience for a starter and Practice Squad specials for backups.

                Originally posted by Bossman641
                I think everybody had a bit of week 1 jitters. Rodgers seemed off, WR were dropping passes left and right.
                Rodgers was out of rhythm, and why shouldn't he be? The receivers dropped passes, but a lot of them were a little hard and off, not like the sweet spirals that Rodgers was laying in there hands in the preseason.

                I'm not blaming Barbre, he did his best, plenty of offensive linemen take a year or two to get good. Ogunleye single-handedly disrupted the packer offense.

                If Mark Tauscher doesn't heal this fall, I wonder if Tootie Robbins has been on the exercise bike.

                Moving Colledge to tackle might be the realistic option. I really doubt Lang could be an upgrade .

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                • #38
                  I know nothing about our next two opponents, but I know that DL from Minnie will have a field day with our OL on pass-pro if we "don't get that fixed".

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                    Originally posted by Bossman641
                    I think we are going to have to live and die with Barbre. Give him some help early on next week to get his confidence up a little and see how it goes from there.
                    Just like when Adrian Klemm and Will Whitiker failed miserably, the Packers had to replace them midseason with someone less bad.

                    I hate to say it, but TT's misfires at guard a few years ago are playing out at the right tackle position this season. It was obvious in the preseason that the PAckers were EXTREMELY vulnerable at tackle, especially right tackle, with no experience for a starter and Practice Squad specials for backups.

                    Originally posted by Bossman641
                    I think everybody had a bit of week 1 jitters. Rodgers seemed off, WR were dropping passes left and right.
                    Rodgers was out of rhythm, and why shouldn't he be? The receivers dropped passes, but a lot of them were a little hard and off, not like the sweet spirals that Rodgers was laying in there hands in the preseason.

                    I'm not blaming Barbre, he did his best, plenty of offensive linemen take a year or two to get good. Ogunleye single-handedly disrupted the packer offense.

                    If Mark Tauscher doesn't heal this fall, I wonder if Tootie Robbins has been on the exercise bike.

                    Moving Colledge to tackle might be the realistic option. I really doubt Lang could be an upgrade .
                    I definitely agree if Barbre continues to look as horrible as he did there is no way you keep him in there. I'm just not quite ready to give up on him just yet.
                    Go PACK

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                    • #40
                      If he works on his pad level and knee bend, he'll be fine.
                      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                      KYPack

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Partial
                        Originally posted by bobblehead
                        That Chillar guy, just a glorified SS.
                        Horrible player get him off the field!!
                        He looked awful yes, but I'd like to see him for one more week before they pull the plug. He'll put in a long week of work I'm sure so we'll see what happens against the Bungles.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                          Originally posted by Bossman641
                          I think we are going to have to live and die with Barbre. Give him some help early on next week to get his confidence up a little and see how it goes from there.
                          Just like when Adrian Klemm and Will Whitiker failed miserably, the Packers had to replace them midseason with someone less bad.

                          I hate to say it, but TT's misfires at guard a few years ago are playing out at the right tackle position this season. It was obvious in the preseason that the PAckers were EXTREMELY vulnerable at tackle, especially right tackle, with no experience for a starter and Practice Squad specials for backups.

                          Originally posted by Bossman641
                          I think everybody had a bit of week 1 jitters. Rodgers seemed off, WR were dropping passes left and right.
                          Rodgers was out of rhythm, and why shouldn't he be? The receivers dropped passes, but a lot of them were a little hard and off, not like the sweet spirals that Rodgers was laying in there hands in the preseason.

                          I'm not blaming Barbre, he did his best, plenty of offensive linemen take a year or two to get good. Ogunleye single-handedly disrupted the packer offense.

                          If Mark Tauscher doesn't heal this fall, I wonder if Tootie Robbins has been on the exercise bike.

                          Moving Colledge to tackle might be the realistic option. I really doubt Lang could be an upgrade .
                          Give the kid a chance. Its not mid-season, its one game. Yes it was ugly, but its his first start. He needs to show improvement next week, not be shown the door. Yet.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                            Ogunleye single-handedly disrupted the packer offense.
                            I'm going to agree with you. He was Jenkins-esque. I wonder if our offense was really as bad as it looked, or if it was just one guy?

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Scott Campbell
                              Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                              Ogunleye single-handedly disrupted the packer offense.
                              I'm going to agree with you. He was Jenkins-esque. I wonder if our offense was really as bad as it looked, or if it was just one guy?
                              I do think it was one guy. Og was constantly in the backfield disrupting the timing of the plays. When they finally got some help for Barbre, Arod had some more time to let the play develop and we had some success. It's amazing what one monster pass rusher can do to throw off the whole offense. Og seemed to have Reggie White type impact.
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                              • #45
                                I think Barbre is going to be fine. For whatever reason, probably Og's quickness, he showed horrible footwork for three and a half quarters of the game. His ass end was locked down like his feet were stuck in cow shit and he tried to knock Og off his rush with a single lunge--like that would ever work. Late in the game they ran a replay of Barbre when he did get the job done and it finally looked as if he was shuffling and sliding the way a good lineman should.

                                If he got away with bad habits in college he'll learn good ones by next week or he'll be benched the way Colledge was in his first season.

                                jmo
                                [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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