NFC North QB Race 2009

[pbmax]

Irrelevant. I still think he is hurt. He is very accurate typically, even last year, and he looks off this year to me. Vastly different from PS and even last year.

Partial, you can't accept a kind of evidence (accuracy of throws) and then just throw out the results that don't agree with your conclusion.

He had some funky high throws last year too. In the game coverage, he mentions that he rushed the overthrow to a wide open Driver in the end zone.

[pbmax]

Look people, i know some of us like to argue, but can't you just start ignoring Partial and argue amongst yourselves?

Sure I see this after I respond.

[ThunderDan]

Look people, i know some of us like to argue, but can't you just start ignoring Partial and argue amongst yourselves?

My time out was up. I just can't stand the idiotic spew. I really wish we had an ignore feature.

[Zool]

I know its tough. I've had my share of relapses. He just says such stupid things sometimes. If we band together, we can stop this addiction once and for all.

Maybe we need an intervention?

[Tarlam!]

I just can't stand the idiotic spew.

Maybe, but just about everybody baits him to death around here. Sure he has strong opinions and oftentimes they aren't widely shared, but I respect him for showing the backbone to stand his ground and stick up for himself.

I can't think of a flame war that he started since coming back. He has every right to defend himself when he's attacked and he has a right to his opinion.

So, if we focussed on debating him when we disagree instead of going out of our way to personally attack him, this might be a friendlier place.

[Charles Woodson]

I just can't stand the idiotic spew.

Maybe, but just about everybody baits him to death around here. Sure he has strong opinions and oftentimes they aren't widely shared, but I respect him for showing the backbone to stand his ground and stick up for himself.

I can't think of a flame war that he started since coming back. He has every right to defend himself when he's attacked and he has a right to his opinion.

So, if we focussed on debating him when we disagree instead of going out of our way to personally attack him, this might be a friendlier place.

See but the problem is that his "strong opinions" are always flawed in which us, the kind people of PR, point that out which makes him even more irate

[ThunderDan]

I just can't stand the idiotic spew.

Maybe, but just about everybody baits him to death around here. Sure he has strong opinions and oftentimes they aren't widely shared, but I respect him for showing the backbone to stand his ground and stick up for himself.

I can't think of a flame war that he started since coming back. He has every right to defend himself when he's attacked and he has a right to his opinion.

So, if we focussed on debating him when we disagree instead of going out of our way to personally attack him, this might be a friendlier place.

Wrong! On the whole last play by the Packers vs Bengals, he was wrong. Jordy Nelson wasn't open. The bump by the Bengal player was 3 yards down the field. And the coach of the Packers said they should have been able to run a play down the middle and get another play off.

Yet P argued every point. I really wish I had the endzone stills for that play to show the breakdown.

[Tarlam!]

I saw that discussion, Dan. From what I recall, P tried to remain on topic despite being personally attacked.

[ThunderDan]

I saw that discussion, Dan. From what I recall, P tried to remain on topic despite being personally attacked.

So it's OK to "lie" for the whole thread and not expect to get people mad??? This is why we need the ignore feature!

[Zool]

He does it for effect people. He likes the role.

[Tarlam!]

I don't know when he lied. I know he argued his point about the last play quite vigorously and was personally attacked.

I am not innocent of not having it in for one, two posters here, so I can undertand your emotion on this.

[Tarlam!]

He does it for effect people. He likes the role.

Well, I've hung out with him and he really is as passionate in real life as he is in his opinions here.

[Tarlam!]

I want to apologize to Ras and the other Rats for taking this thread so off topic. I'm very sorry.

[Gunakor]

I just can't stand the idiotic spew.

Maybe, but just about everybody baits him to death around here. Sure he has strong opinions and oftentimes they aren't widely shared, but I respect him for showing the backbone to stand his ground and stick up for himself.

I can't think of a flame war that he started since coming back. He has every right to defend himself when he's attacked and he has a right to his opinion.

So, if we focussed on debating him when we disagree instead of going out of our way to personally attack him, this might be a friendlier place.

Maybe if he wasn't so stubborn in his "I'm right, everybody else is wrong, I'm smart, you're an idiot, and I'm gonna make a point about it" type attitude it would be easier. Speaking from my own personal experience with him, when I do keep focused on topic and argue just the facts presented this is what I get:

I love how you ignore the question I answered and make more excuses. You lose. Game set match mother fucker.

He loves how I ignored a question he answered (which I didn't ignore, by the way, I just didn't agree with) and made more excuses (because I didn't agree with his answer, anything I say is going to sound like an excuse to him).

At least where the arguments between he and I are concerned, he's the one to make things personal. Maybe if he didn't make things personal when we are focused on debating the topic, we wouldn't respond personally, and this might be a friendlier place.

[MichiganPackerFan]

Maybe some of you all need a an "Official Partial Opinion & Rebuttal Thread" so we can keep some of these threads on topic!!!