Although you got a win, should you be concerned with the D?

[MJZiggy]

I didn't see the game. Why did Cutler blatantly walk right into the ref's motion like that? It doesn't seem possible that he didn't see him waving his arms right in front of his face. In fact he closed his eyes the first time the ref passed his arm in front of his face as it looks like he thought he was going to get hit on the downswing. Was he upset about a call or non-call?

Regardless, it's a bush league move if you ask me. He looked like Shaq faking a charge acting all surprised he was hit. The ref thought it was funny though.

He was genuinely not paying attention to what the hell he was doing and didn't notice a referee waving his arms in front of him.

[Dabaddestbear]

Cares:

1. To be concerned or interested:

Sorry, but no one cares about Cutler.

Game. Set. Match.

If one is not interested in a thread they would not look to respond or even read it.
So yes, I am glad you proved my point sir.
This is too easy...

[Dabaddestbear]

The one thing I would worry about with Cutler is his leadership. It seems to be lacking compared to ARod. The talent is there, though, and who knows what happens away from the camera.

But man, does he ever look like a loser with that look on his face.

If a look on his face is all you will have to go on then there is no way he should ever win another game in the NFL. The guy got a face that always looks like hes pouting. Who cares about his face. All I care about is wins. Something he got for the Bears last week. Rodgers in comparison has a calm strong leader face, but what good did that do him unless he expected the defensive lineman to run for cover with his evil death stare as they froze in place while he heaved touch down after touch down.

[Dabaddestbear]

this is not based on the fact that cutler is a bear, and its not a shot at our bears fans

but cutler in that video, and just all the time when is helmet isn't on, looks like a giant douche bag pussy who's ass you'd love to beat just based on the way he looks

this has nothing to do with his skill or attitude, its just based on the way he looks

I agree with you. As a matter of fact when I was in high school those guys with those looks just warranted an ass kicking because it just seemed like he was talking crap about you even when their lips werent moving. But like I said before, I can care less about his looks as long as he wins games for us. Hell he can have on eye smack in the middle of his forehead, five horns sticking out from behind his ears, and smell like barracuda ass.....matters not, as long as he wins.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Cares:

1. To be concerned or interested:

Sorry, but no one cares about Cutler.

Game. Set. Match.

If one is not interested in a thread they would not look to respond or even read it.
So yes, I am glad you proved my point sir.
This is too easy...

Of course i care about the packer defense, dipshit.

But, i posted who cares regarding Cutler and his performance against the steelers.

First, you are posting info about cutler in a thread you created about our defense. FAIL

Then, you can't understand why someone doesn't care. Fail.

Third. You dont' get to determine what criteria is involved for my caring. Fail.

You are the worst troll yet.

[Dabaddestbear]

Cares:

1. To be concerned or interested:

Sorry, but no one cares about Cutler.

Game. Set. Match.

If one is not interested in a thread they would not look to respond or even read it.
So yes, I am glad you proved my point sir.
This is too easy...

Of course i care about the packer defense, dipshit.

But, i posted who cares regarding Cutler and his performance against the steelers.

First, you are posting info about cutler in a thread you created about our defense. FAIL

Then, you can't understand why someone doesn't care. Fail.

Third. You dont' get to determine what criteria is involved for my caring. Fail.

You are the worst troll yet.

Um, Cutler was first discussed in this thread by Packer fans, so naturally I will follow up.
So yes, you failed , and yes you still care about the topic of Cutler because you are still posting in a thread that has become about him, mainly because you keep bumping this thread about him.

Like I said, too easy. So much more fun when I am conversing with the more intelligent Packer fans on here.

oh, by the way me being called the worst troll bothers me none. I been around on these Packer boards for years, and never once have an insult from certain mentally challenged Packer fans ran me away.
oh, I'm sorry this is the point where I am supposed to

[Tyrone Bigguns]

You can hang here for as long as you like. I hope you do. So we all can remind you....packers beat the bears. Everyday you are here i hope you remember that...you lost, we won.

[Dabaddestbear]

You can hang here for as long as you like. I hope you do. So we all can remind you....packers beat the bears. Everyday you are here i hope you remember that...you lost, we won.

Yep, I have no problem with being reminded of that. Just as I will remind those of downward spiral of your team as it stands, and the continued improvement of the Bears.

Been on these boards longer than most Packer fans and I will still be around after some of you jump ship.

[MOBB DEEP]

Dayum....

[Dabaddestbear]

Re: Although you got a win, should you be concerned with the

I know the Packers defense look much better than last year, but when you look at the tape, they gave up some big plays to what many considered a very sub-par WR group. I heard how the WR group of the Bears would not be able to do anything, and that Forte and the TE's is all the Bears have to throw to, but it was exactly the opposite. The young WR's ran some bad routes, and Cutler tossed some questionable INT's, but even with all that self destruction of the Bears passing game, they still did put up some impressive numbers against a pretty good Packers secondary.

Hester- 4 catches 90 yards and a TD. Had a very nice sideline grab and getting deep for that TD. He played like a #1 WR that night.

Knox- Yes, he stopped on his route on the slant but what do u honestly expect from a rookie wr from a D2 school? 2 catches 82 yards and one catch was for 68 yards in beating Woodson.

Bennett- 7 catches for 66 yards- I think this kid is very talented. He got a lot of separation from some good GB DB's. He did drop one and also had a dumb offsides and went back instead of coming forward when Cutler scrambled. Basically his first nfl game you have to expect mistakes from young guys like this.

I mentioned this because I have yet to see this brought up, for it seemed to get loss in all the defensive hoopla discussion in regards to both teams.
Nice win of course, but from that game, with the new expectations of the defense, can you honestly say you have no reason to be concerned?

Wait, I thought the INTs and incompletions were often the WR's fault? Which is it? How's the koolaid?

Honestly, any NFL WR can make a play or two. By-and-large your WRs will not scare any team.

Well you need yours to step it up.

[Dabaddestbear]

NO, I am not concerned about the D. Don't you have enough to worry about on your side of the ball? :P

Yes,as do all teams. But I will remember your quote here as saying you ARE not concerned sir.

Still savoring your moral victory?

Remember when Matt Forte didn't suck?

remember when your WR's could catch balls hitting them right in their numbers?

See how easy it is to come back and make some of you guys swallow crow as the season goes on, just because most of your comments are illogical and have no basis for argument. So I stick it to you when I can my friend.

[Bossman641]

Shouldn't you be a little worried about your own D. I'll admit they played well in the 2nd half, but they were carved up like a thanksgiving turkey in the first.

[Dabaddestbear]

jeez, how could anybody watch that game and come away grumbling about the defense?

This thread was started by a bear fan asking us if we are worried about our pass D. I don't worry about that too much. EVERY DB gets burned once or twice during a game. The fellas on the other sideline get paid too. Woodson didn't have a great game but there were enough guys on D who did and the Packers' offense came thru in the end and found a way to win a game when they weren't playing their best by any stretch of the imagination. And that is what good teams do.

I can imagine the excuses that will piling up after this game.

[Dabaddestbear]

{ilr]3]I think its the Bears fans who should be concerned about thier QB instead of worry about issues with other teams.


From PFT.com

Why do Lovie's buddies keep piling on Cutler?
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on September 15, 2009 2:41 PM ET
You don't need to be an NFL insider to have heard the whispers about Jay Cutler's leadership skills (or lack thereof.)

The issue went national, of course, during the long buildup to Cutler's trade to Chicago, with Tony Dungy being one of the most outspoken people who questioned Cutler's maturity a few months after he joined the Bears.

Those comments raised a few eyebrows considering Dungy's relationship with Bears coach Lovie Smith, and now another coach close to Smith has jumped on Cutler's behavior.

As pointed out by The Chicago Sun-Times, Mike Martz was critical of Cutler during his NFL Network gig, especially Cutler's behavior in his post-game presser.

"[Cutler] just doesn't get it,'' Martz said. "He doesn't understand that he represents a great head coach and the rest of those players on that team ... somebody needs to talk to him."

Jim Mora also slammed Cutler for "acting like he didn't even care," which we're not sure is fair. Whether you like it or not, Cutler's laconic demeanor is a lot more consistent than his decision-making on the field. He's just not going to give fire-and-brimstone speeches.

Cutler's attitude towards the press is a lot less interesting to us than his interaction with his teammates. There have been signs that Cutler wasn't exactly a beloved leader in the Denver locker room.

Journalist Stefan Fatsis, who spent training camp in 2006 with the Broncos for a book he wrote, alluded to Cutler's aloof nature in a recent interview with the On the DL Podcast. (Outstanding book incidentally.)

Fatsis had close ties with folks throughout the Broncos organization, and there seemed to legitimate questions from within whether Cutler had the "intangibles" necessary to lead a football team. It's fair to wonder whether Josh McDaniels and company took this into account before dealing Cutler away.

Fatsis' comments popped in my head when I read what Martz's said. Hearing one coach close to Lovie Smith question Cutler's maturity was odd, but two seems like a trend.

Brad Biggs of the Sun-Times said it perfectly: "At this point, it's fair to wonder if Lovie Smith shares the same viewpoints as his mentors."

So is that so? Cutler has been more than solid since week one, and Rodgers has been...well....umm....sacked....alot.

[Dabaddestbear]

So I ask if you think such production from such very young and average WR's in you guys eyes are something to be concerned with.

Average????

Those guys are well below average.

They have been playing BETTER than the packers WR's. :P