Donald Driver

[mraynrand]

I saw a stat on a replay where Driver has the most receptions inside the 20s of any active receiver - both in absolute number (not too surprising because of years) and in percentage. Guy is tough as nails. Now when you talk about disrupting chemistry, DD is a guy you have to be really careful about releasing - because he does the dirty work and doesn't bitch about it. In fact, you can see it's a matter of pride with the guy. As long as he stays in shape, the Packers would do themselves a favor showing DD the money - not huge money, but enough to keep him.

[Freak Out]

Absolutely. It won't cost a fortune to keep him around.

[packerbacker1234]

Everyone likes DD. I see no reason we would not keep this guy around as long as he can keep his body in shape to play.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Absolutely. It won't cost a fortune to keep him around.

Ty has long been off the DD bandwagon. DD put up some great #s and a large amount of that was that he was Bert's security blanket.

DD is on record as to wanting to play till he is 40. Ty doesn't think he can do it and be effective...nor does Ty think it would be wise to invest any dollars to make him a packer till 40.

At some point we have to transition to jones/jordy..or whomever.

As for cost...ty thinks you'll be surprised at what he wants.

[hoosier]

Re: Donald Driver

I saw a stat on a replay where Driver has the most receptions inside the 20s of any active receiver - both in absolute number (not too surprising because of years) and in percentage.

My biggest problem with Driver is that he SUCKS between the 20s. He's a drive killer with his drops.

[MOBB DEEP]

ALL that driver's done for pack i think anyone not in support of him being extended is insane

That being said, thats what i hate about the nature of the nfl (not for long), mere property in so many cases. It SUCKS that fans are often just as bad as the brass, treating these cats like pieces of meat. Thats why i LOVE when cats like Lord Favre exercise their leverage since its so rare.

[Waldo]

Driver is a very good support WR and a very bad top WR.

He needs to play with somebody better than him. That is how he thrives. His efficiency #'s drastically improve when he is the #2 guy. As the #1 guy he is sub par. Great guy, but he doesn't score enough or gain yards efficiently enough to be the point man of a high powered offense.

IMO he actually should be the #3 guy (via the slot WR technicality). Still be #2 in targets, but cede base snaps (2 WR) to Jones or Nelson, and come in as our slot WR, a role that he is anyway in 3+ WR sets, something that he is one of the league's best at.

IMO Jones and Jordy bring things to the 2 WR formation that DD doesn't bring. Jones runs a more complete route tree and has clutch receiving ability, Jordy is a far superior blocker, both in pass pro (he did some pass pro in the backfield vs. the Bears) and run blocking.

If I were in TT's position, I would offer to make DD top 3 (if not #1) in slot WR money, but go no higher, for the next 2 years.

[Scott Campbell]

ALL that driver's done for pack i think anyone not in support of him being extended is insane

That being said, thats what i hate about the nature of the nfl (not for long), mere property in so many cases. It SUCKS that fans are often just as bad as the brass, treating these cats like pieces of meat. Thats why i LOVE when cats like Lord Favre exercise their leverage

Since when is selling your soul considered "leverage"?

[MOBB DEEP]

ALL that driver's done for pack i think anyone not in support of him being extended is insane

That being said, thats what i hate about the nature of the nfl (not for long), mere property in so many cases. It SUCKS that fans are often just as bad as the brass, treating these cats like pieces of meat. Thats why i LOVE when cats like Lord Favre exercise their leverage

Since when is selling your soul considered "leverage"?

he he....not just favre; Eli and marshall

[Bossman641]

ALL that driver's done for pack i think anyone not in support of him being extended is insane

That being said, thats what i hate about the nature of the nfl (not for long), mere property in so many cases. It SUCKS that fans are often just as bad as the brass, treating these cats like pieces of meat. Thats why i LOVE when cats like Lord Favre exercise their leverage

Since when is selling your soul considered "leverage"?

he he....not just favre; Eli and marshall

Eli is such a douche. I'll never forgive him for acting the way he did.

[MOBB DEEP]

ALL that driver's done for pack i think anyone not in support of him being extended is insane

That being said, thats what i hate about the nature of the nfl (not for long), mere property in so many cases. It SUCKS that fans are often just as bad as the brass, treating these cats like pieces of meat. Thats why i LOVE when cats like Lord Favre exercise their leverage

Since when is selling your soul considered "leverage"?

he he....not just favre; Eli and marshall

Eli is such a douche. I'll never forgive him for acting the way he did.

Yeah, that was nuts! What about Elway then? I loved him before they beat us in SB...of course Ive grown to realize it wasnt his fault. he just played his hardest...sucks when players u like at one point end up beating ur squad later (e.g., LOVED duncan at wake but hated he beat my Knicks in '99)

[Tony Oday]

Driver is a very good support WR and a very bad top WR.

He needs to play with somebody better than him. That is how he thrives. His efficiency #'s drastically improve when he is the #2 guy. As the #1 guy he is sub par. Great guy, but he doesn't score enough or gain yards efficiently enough to be the point man of a high powered offense.

IMO he actually should be the #3 guy (via the slot WR technicality). Still be #2 in targets, but cede base snaps (2 WR) to Jones or Nelson, and come in as our slot WR, a role that he is anyway in 3+ WR sets, something that he is one of the league's best at.

IMO Jones and Jordy bring things to the 2 WR formation that DD doesn't bring. Jones runs a more complete route tree and has clutch receiving ability, Jordy is a far superior blocker, both in pass pro (he did some pass pro in the backfield vs. the Bears) and run blocking.

If I were in TT's position, I would offer to make DD top 3 (if not #1) in slot WR money, but go no higher, for the next 2 years.

Thank God in heaven your opinion doesnt matter to the coaching staff. DD has and is a stud in the offense, which he has proven time and again. He has clutch hands no Jones. DD has one bad game and people want to transition away from him which is absurd.

He may not score 10 TDs a game but he is a minimum 60 rec WR a year.

I agree he isn't as good as a #1 but I would argue he is a 1.5 on this team. He is FAR superior to Jones and Jordy at this point.

[RashanGary]

I'd keep him this year and next year at his current contract, then let him go in UFA. He was a great Packer, but his career is almost over. 2 more years, and then enter the Jennings/Jones/Nelson era.

[pbmax]

DD has and is a stud in the offense, which he has proven time and again. He has clutch hands no Jones. DD has one bad game and people want to transition away from him which is absurd.

Driver has not had just one bad game of drops. He and the rest of the crew had a bad case of drops last year. His hands are not his best skill. Clutch? Perhaps if you just wish to recall the ones he held on to.

If someone has kept McGinn's season reviews, he has the drop numbers in there every season. I would be surprised if Driver fares well in review. He isn't TO awful, but I would expect average.

[RashanGary]

If I had to rate hands, in order, I'd go like this:

Nelson
Jennings
Jones
Driver

But they're all close, all good.