Plaxico gets 2 years

[MOBB DEEP]

How in the world has Mobb not posted in this thread yet?

i SERIOUSLY just laughed out loud!!!!!!

Jus read the thread and Mich you put too much pressure on me to perform, like my hottie ex i was always premature with. what?!

I said it in the plaxico burress thread; NO, the law wasnt made for cats like him Skin, it was made for the corner boys, new breed gangstas who couldnt handle taking a punch w/o ending lives, and wanabe badboys (im sure Barnett likes guns too! ) who came of age after the 80s drug boom in NYC. Not a well-known pro athlete that fears he may be targeted and MISTAKENLY discharges weapon

Dont confuse letter of law with spirit of law

And the mayor IMMEDIALTEY chimed in, intimating that plax would basically be made example of. If he's coming out like that, what hope did plax have? If plax wasnt plax, mayor wouldnt have even heard about the case he he....Plenty folk have pointed out that if he were in texas, he woulda gotten probation. Not that ive forgotten the ante-bellum south but at least THAT aspect of their system makes sense in this case

And the sad part is that i detect a sense of glee as it pertains to this cat's fate...if so, thats sick; whatsup with the lack of humanity? he has a family and appears to be a decent fellow who has made a few mistakes. Side bar = He needed intervention during pre-adolescence to deal with his traumatic experiences btw....he still has kids and folk who know the real plax, not judging bamas who feel some crazy euphoria over anothers plight like a he's some sorta scrouge.

And to me the scene was sad in court tuesday b/c he's no menace to society like SO many of those NYC cops as Mich mentioned

Two words: Amadou Diallo...

He who is without sin....

[MJZiggy]

How in the world has Mobb not posted in this thread yet?

i SERIOUSLY just laughed out loud!!!!!!

Jus read the thread and Mich you put too much pressure on me to perform, like my hottie ex i was always premature with. what?!

I said it in the plaxico burress thread; NO, the law wasnt made for cats like him Skin, it was made for the corner boys, new breed gangstas who couldnt handle taking a punch w/o ending lives, and wanabe badboys (im sure Barnett likes guns too! ) who came of age after the 80s drug boom in NYC. Not a well-known pro athlete that fears he may be targeted and MISTAKENLY discharges weapon

Dont confuse letter of law with spirit of law

And the mayor IMMEDIALTEY chimed in, intimating that plax would basically be made example of. If he's coming out like that, what hope did plax have? If plax wasnt plax, mayor wouldnt have even heard about the case he he....Plenty folk have pointed out that if he were in texas, he woulda gotten probation. Not that ive forgotten the ante-bellum south but at least THAT aspect of their system makes sense in this case

And the sad part is that i detect a sense of glee as it pertains to this cat's fate...if so, thats sick; whatsup with the lack of humanity? he has a family and appears to be a decent fellow who has made a few mistakes. Side bar = He needed intervention during pre-adolescence to deal with his traumatic experiences btw....he still has kids and folk who know the real plax, not judging bamas who feel some crazy euphoria over anothers plight like a he's some sorta scrouge.

And to me the scene was sad in court tuesday b/c he's no menace to society like SO many of those NYC cops as Mich mentioned

Two words: Amadou Diallo...

He who is without sin....

Doesn't matter who the law was intended for, cause that law was written in big letters and heavily publicized. (if he were in Texas he'd have just been laughed at because they don't have the same law) I knew about it and don't even live there. They were very clear and very firm. If the guy had a family to take care of, there's no way he should have been running around doing shit that was announced in a big media campaign would get you prison time. Quit making excuses. I have a family, therefore I don't do shit that gets me prison time. It's called personal responsibility.

[Packerarcher]

I know this wasn't about Plax shooting himself but the possesion of the firearm itself. The point is the resources put into this case to make an example out of him could have been used better elsewhere. That is unless all major crime in NY has been eliminated and we haven't heard about it.

[SkinBasket]

How in the world has Mobb not posted in this thread yet?

i SERIOUSLY just laughed out loud!!!!!!

Jus read the thread and Mich you put too much pressure on me to perform, like my hottie ex i was always premature with. what?!

I said it in the plaxico burress thread; NO, the law wasnt made for cats like him Skin, it was made for the corner boys, new breed gangstas who couldnt handle taking a punch w/o ending lives, and wanabe badboys (im sure Barnett likes guns too! ) who came of age after the 80s drug boom in NYC. Not a well-known pro athlete that fears he may be targeted and MISTAKENLY discharges weapon

Dont confuse letter of law with spirit of law

And the mayor IMMEDIALTEY chimed in, intimating that plax would basically be made example of. If he's coming out like that, what hope did plax have? If plax wasnt plax, mayor wouldnt have even heard about the case he he....Plenty folk have pointed out that if he were in texas, he woulda gotten probation. Not that ive forgotten the ante-bellum south but at least THAT aspect of their system makes sense in this case

And the sad part is that i detect a sense of glee as it pertains to this cat's fate...if so, thats sick; whatsup with the lack of humanity? he has a family and appears to be a decent fellow who has made a few mistakes. Side bar = He needed intervention during pre-adolescence to deal with his traumatic experiences btw....he still has kids and folk who know the real plax, not judging bamas who feel some crazy euphoria over anothers plight like a he's some sorta scrouge.

And to me the scene was sad in court tuesday b/c he's no menace to society like SO many of those NYC cops as Mich mentioned

Two words: Amadou Diallo...

He who is without sin....

Well that's just a whole big ball of stupid. You pretty much hit on every distortion and misconception about this case out there and wrap them all up in one big racial victimhood ribbon that also manages to invoke another entirely unrelated case - unless you're arguing that po' ol' Plaxico is the victim of police brutality?

The law was written to keep guns out of nightclubs, regardless of weather they are carried by "corner boys, new breed gangstas," or spoiled athletes who think they're above the law.

Plaxico is a perfect example of why they don't want guns in nightclubs. He carried an unregistered gun unsecured and with the safety off into a crowded environment and placed each and every one of those lives in danger that night. Thank god he was only dumb enough to shoot himself.

Humanity? What a fucking joke. He certainly didn't think of his "folk" or kids or anyone other than himself when he decided he was above the law and his imagined threat to his life was more important than the real threat to everyone else's safety he presented that night.

[pbmax]

It's not illegal to accidentally shoot yourself.

I'd bet that discharging a firearm in a public place, with no mitigating circumstances, is actually illegal as well.

Plaxico is being made an example of, the Mayor made that explicit with his comments after the incident. He created a very public expectation that jail time would be served before facts were established at trial. Patler's intimation that the minimum sentence indicates a less than hard line stance is misleading as many similar cases are plea bargained with no jail time. The DA at no time considered any agreement without jail time

Posters may consider this appropriate punishment, which it may be, but the fact is the law has been applied less aggressively before. The problem with such discretion is that no one ever needs to explain the different standard. And that leaves it open to interpretation, both wise and foolish.

But those factors are secondary. The entire fault lies with Burress, as he treats holding a gun with less seriousness than carrying a cell phone. That makes him a danger to himself and other, innocent bystanders. He takes no time to become familiar with local laws. By his actions, he treats his fellow citizens (and family) as unimportant and his responsibility for that weapon as no more serious than for a receipt in his pocket.

[Scott Campbell]

He's just lucky he isn't being sentenced for manslaughter.

He might be getting more sympathy if he hadn't previously earned 137 fines for being a jackass with the Giants.

[Zool]

How in the world has Mobb not posted in this thread yet?

i SERIOUSLY just laughed out loud!!!!!!

Jus read the thread and Mich you put too much pressure on me to perform, like my hottie ex i was always premature with. what?!

I said it in the plaxico burress thread; NO, the law wasnt made for cats like him Skin, it was made for the corner boys, new breed gangstas who couldnt handle taking a punch w/o ending lives, and wanabe badboys (im sure Barnett likes guns too! ) who came of age after the 80s drug boom in NYC. Not a well-known pro athlete that fears he may be targeted and MISTAKENLY discharges weapon

Dont confuse letter of law with spirit of law

And the mayor IMMEDIALTEY chimed in, intimating that plax would basically be made example of. If he's coming out like that, what hope did plax have? If plax wasnt plax, mayor wouldnt have even heard about the case he he....Plenty folk have pointed out that if he were in texas, he woulda gotten probation. Not that ive forgotten the ante-bellum south but at least THAT aspect of their system makes sense in this case

And the sad part is that i detect a sense of glee as it pertains to this cat's fate...if so, thats sick; whatsup with the lack of humanity? he has a family and appears to be a decent fellow who has made a few mistakes. Side bar = He needed intervention during pre-adolescence to deal with his traumatic experiences btw....he still has kids and folk who know the real plax, not judging bamas who feel some crazy euphoria over anothers plight like a he's some sorta scrouge.

And to me the scene was sad in court tuesday b/c he's no menace to society like SO many of those NYC cops as Mich mentioned

Two words: Amadou Diallo...

He who is without sin....

Well that's just a whole big ball of stupid. You pretty much hit on every distortion and misconception about this case out there and wrap them all up in one big racial victimhood ribbon that also manages to invoke another entirely unrelated case - unless you're arguing that po' ol' Plaxico is the victim of police brutality?

The law was written to keep guns out of nightclubs, regardless of weather they are carried by "corner boys, new breed gangstas," or spoiled athletes who think they're above the law.

Plaxico is a perfect example of why they don't want guns in nightclubs. He carried an unregistered gun unsecured and with the safety off into a crowded environment and placed each and every one of those lives in danger that night. Thank god he was only dumb enough to shoot himself.

Humanity? What a fucking joke. He certainly didn't think of his "folk" or kids or anyone other than himself when he decided he was above the law and his imagined threat to his life was more important than the real threat to everyone else's safety he presented that night.

I love it when Skin is the voice of reason in a thread. What if Plax the tard had shot someone else with a wife/husband and 3 kids at home? Oops sorry, was an accident. The law is specifically written to include a MANDATORY jail time.

man⋅da⋅to⋅ry
  /ˈmændəˌtɔri, -ˌtoʊri/
–adjective
1. authoritatively ordered; obligatory; compulsory:

This is complete BS saying that he's some sort of victim. Ignorance of the law does not save you from punishment. If he want's to go to the club, don't bring a piece. If you're life could be in danger, don't fucking go there. He made an extremely bad decision that could have ended up a lot worse than it did. He should just feel lucky that he didn't kill someone. Accidentally or otherwise.

[Gunakor]

The DA at no time considered any agreement without jail time

Why should they have made this consideration? Why should they have even considered a plea deal where Plax would walk free? He was carrying a gun unlawfully to a place he shouldn't have had one. It was loaded. If he shot himself by accident that means the safety was off. That's a very big deal PB. Would you have let him walk? Would you have let anybody else convicted of the same crime walk?

I wish every city in America had the same law and the same mandatory punishment for this crime as NYC has. Kudos to them for getting this one right.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

plax is at fault.

The situation only reinforces how stupid laws are with mandatory sentences.

[sheepshead]

This does seem pretty harsh. Also, he was frisked, they found the gun and let him in. I can see both sides especially in a big city, but 2 years for being a knucklehead? can he get out the joint sooner? This is coooeee man..just cooooeeee

[MJZiggy]

This does seem pretty harsh. Also, he was frisked, they found the gun and let him in. I can see both sides especially in a big city, but 2 years for being a knucklehead? can he get out the joint sooner? This is coooeee man..just cooooeeee

Football players expect to be let off when crap like this happens which only encourages more of the same and then when some nobody does the same thing, they have a light sentencing precedent to argue with. So they threw the book at him. Geez, when these guys get off light, everyone is all offended that "if he were just a regular guy, he'd have gotten two years." He broke the law in a big way (I don't care if they found it on him and let him in. If that's the case then security should be fired for allowing a weapon in the club). There is a specific law against doing what he did, but he ignored it and expected to be let off because he's famous. Guess now he understands what personal responsibility looks like. Anyone know if he has any prior convictions for anything?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Plus he only shaves his sack.

[pbmax]

The DA at no time considered any agreement without jail time

Why should they have made this consideration? Why should they have even considered a plea deal where Plax would walk free? He was carrying a gun unlawfully to a place he shouldn't have had one. It was loaded. If he shot himself by accident that means the safety was off. That's a very big deal PB. Would you have let him walk? Would you have let anybody else convicted of the same crime walk?

I wish every city in America had the same law and the same mandatory punishment for this crime as NYC has. Kudos to them for getting this one right.

Gunakor, I doubt your plan to have that New York City gun prohibition extended would be very popular outside of the Northeast.

The reporting indicated the most common sentence was probation and/or house arrest. This is not at all letting someone walk. They are not free, they must report their whereabouts at all times.

[Gunakor]

Gunakor, I doubt your plan to have that New York City gun prohibition extended would be very popular outside of the Northeast.

Popularity is no concern of mine. It wouldn't be the first unpopular law enacted and it won't be the last. It IS important, however. Safety trumps popularity every time.

The reporting indicated the most common sentence was probation and/or house arrest. This is not at all letting someone walk. They are not free, they must report their whereabouts at all times.

Yeah, except they don't always do that. You put them on probation and risk them violating their probation. For petty crimes that pose no real risk to other members of society I could understand, but violating a GUN LAW? No, you sit in jail where you can be supervised at all times. Who's to say that if Plax had just gotten probation that he wouldn't go back to that same club carrying a different weapon? Just because he's not supposed to doesn't mean he's not going to.

Yeah, he's famous, so he probably wouldn't get away with it - but for someone less famous, someone whose face you don't recognize, there's no way to control that. And you can't discriminate against the non-famous by making them sit while you let the famous off with probation. There's no justice in that whatsoever. If Joe Citizen has to sit for this crime, so does Plaxico Burress.

[SnakeLH2006]

It's been hashed out before. I stand by it.

Plax=2 years.

Dante Stallworth=30 days.

RE-FUCKING-TARDED.

I don't care what the local laws say. Dante killed some dude WASTED (HIS CHOICE). Plax is a thug and all (carried a gun) but gets 2 years.

Fuck the U.S. system at this point. Snake is gonna get fucked up and drive down and kill some dude I don't like.

I'm facing 30 days in local jail. Glad I don't do it (I do but not with a firearm) and party in local clubs with my 50 Cal. on my side. I could really face the wrath of injustice....No???

That is just fucked up. Dante is a killer by his choice (aka in my mind a murderer). Plax is a moron.

Fuck the moron. Let the murderer go. FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!