Rouse released

[mraynrand]

I don't have the video of the game with me, but I'm pretty sure Rouse was involved in one of the special team fuck ups as well as the 3rd and 34 fuck up. Defensive coordinators have been fired for giving up 26 yards on a critical down, so why not a backup safety on 34? Giordano not only helps teams and safety, but he can bring in the best stuffed pizza there is.

He was also the one that gave up Coles TD, and was supposed to be the deep safety on the fleaflicker.

If I recall, that Coles TD was the one where Woodson released the WR to the safety and there was no safety there, he was looking for the run about a yard off the LOS.

Later, on a critical down, T. Will released the WR to the safety, and the safety was way late. To be fair to Rouse, this was noticeable through the entire preseason - when the defensive backfield was playing zone, the handoff of receivers from the corners to the safeties was marginal at best, leaving pretty big gaps. If there is no/reduced pass rush, that gets exposed right away.

[KYPack]

Collins needs to get back ASAP, why the fk didn't they keep Smith?

Normally I would get on here and yell at you for not telling me who you would cut to keep him.

But since they just released one safety to sign another, its a great question. Why was Rouse on the roster ahead of Smith?

The only explanation would be that with all the injuries, they cannot afford a Safety who can only play near the LOS. They have to be able to do both. Or perhaps Collins is going to be gone longer than first anticipated and Special Teams considerations are out the door.

In answer to KYPack, I agree Rouse offerred something beyond what Waldo gives him credit for. He could play the run and hit somebody. But he was very awkward in the open field. Not exactly the guy you want as the last line of defense (run or pass) to make an open field tackle.

I'll answer both you and Waldo in the same reply.

PB, Re Rouse: I was more making a joke than nailing Waldo back. I mean, a guy who is weak against the run and the pass at S? What is his area of functionality, exactly? Rouse was one of the worst peekers I've ever seen. Til he learns to read the keys and play his reads, he'll never be an NFL safety.

Underwood did play a little safety at UC, but it was mainly as a robber in an 8 in the box scheme. He deserves to be on the roster. Good instincts and raw talent. Green as goose shit as a corner. He is no NFL safety and won't be one this season. Even if we play him there.

[pbmax]

I don't have the video of the game with me, but I'm pretty sure Rouse was involved in one of the special team fuck ups as well as the 3rd and 34 fuck up. Defensive coordinators have been fired for giving up 26 yards on a critical down, so why not a backup safety on 34? Giordano not only helps teams and safety, but he can bring in the best stuffed pizza there is.

He was also the one that gave up Coles TD, and was supposed to be the deep safety on the fleaflicker.

If I recall, that Coles TD was the one where Woodson released the WR to the safety and there was no safety there, he was looking for the run about a yard off the LOS.

Later, on a critical down, T. Will released the WR to the safety, and the safety was way late. To be fair to Rouse, this was noticeable through the entire preseason - when the defensive backfield was playing zone, the handoff of receivers from the corners to the safeties was marginal at best, leaving pretty big gaps. If there is no/reduced pass rush, that gets exposed right away.

Unless the Packers are rushing more than five, in most of Capers schemes, there will be three across zone in the back. Not always, but generally. The most basic look is six in zone, four rush and one to decide what to do at the LOS.

So if Wood was 1 yard off the LOS, then I would think there should be someone behind him in the deep 1/3. Not just the single deep safety.

[denverYooper]

There may also be - may - reasons we're not privy to that don't include talent or disciplkine or work ethic. What we might call "off the field" issues.

For example, maybe he brought crappy pizza to team meetings, while Giordano clearly has access to better 'za.

...and Martin rolled a much tighter J. Rouse's were always canoeing and shit.

[KYPack]

I don't have the video of the game with me, but I'm pretty sure Rouse was involved in one of the special team fuck ups as well as the 3rd and 34 fuck up. Defensive coordinators have been fired for giving up 26 yards on a critical down, so why not a backup safety on 34? Giordano not only helps teams and safety, but he can bring in the best stuffed pizza there is.

He was also the one that gave up Coles TD, and was supposed to be the deep safety on the fleaflicker.

If I recall, that Coles TD was the one where Woodson released the WR to the safety and there was no safety there, he was looking for the run about a yard off the LOS.

Later, on a critical down, T. Will released the WR to the safety, and the safety was way late. To be fair to Rouse, this was noticeable through the entire preseason - when the defensive backfield was playing zone, the handoff of receivers from the corners to the safeties was marginal at best, leaving pretty big gaps. If there is no/reduced pass rush, that gets exposed right away.

Unless the Packers are rushing more than five, in most of Capers schemes, there will be three across zone in the back. Not always, but generally. The most basic look is six in zone, four rush and one to decide what to do at the LOS.

So if Wood was 1 yard off the LOS, then I would think there should be someone behind him in the deep 1/3. Not just the single deep safety.

Yer right, PB, but not on that play.

When they send 5 they play 3-3 in the back of the blitz. Two corners deep is called "sky", two safeties is 'cloud'.

This situation was some kind of Capers hybrid. The played 9 guys within a yard of the LOS with two safeties. At the snap, rouse went the wrong way and Coles was wide open for the six. On those two touchdowns on Rouse, he wasn't in the vicinity of the receiver.

It was bad and helped get the guy's ass cut.

[Guiness]

There may also be - may - reasons we're not privy to that don't include talent or disciplkine or work ethic. What we might call "off the field" issues.

For example, maybe he brought crappy pizza to team meetings, while Giordano clearly has access to better 'za.

Maybe he punched a coach?

[KYPack]

There may also be - may - reasons we're not privy to that don't include talent or disciplkine or work ethic. What we might call "off the field" issues.

For example, maybe he brought crappy pizza to team meetings, while Giordano clearly has access to better 'za.

Maybe he punched a coach?

You love that rumor, don't ya?

[pbmax]

There may also be - may - reasons we're not privy to that don't include talent or disciplkine or work ethic. What we might call "off the field" issues.

For example, maybe he brought crappy pizza to team meetings, while Giordano clearly has access to better 'za.

Maybe he punched a coach?

Poor Frtiz is going to get really confused again.

[Guiness]

WTF?


How the hell exactly... is Rouse worse than Bush @ safety?

I am perplexed.

.

I'm sure it's the ST thing again. Neither of them is what we want at safety, and Rouse doesn't play ST (or at least, not as well as Bush). I'm guessing the possibility that Rouse would develop into a starter is what they were hoping, but after this last game they decided no way.

[pbmax]

I don't have the video of the game with me, but I'm pretty sure Rouse was involved in one of the special team fuck ups as well as the 3rd and 34 fuck up. Defensive coordinators have been fired for giving up 26 yards on a critical down, so why not a backup safety on 34? Giordano not only helps teams and safety, but he can bring in the best stuffed pizza there is.

He was also the one that gave up Coles TD, and was supposed to be the deep safety on the fleaflicker.

If I recall, that Coles TD was the one where Woodson released the WR to the safety and there was no safety there, he was looking for the run about a yard off the LOS.

Later, on a critical down, T. Will released the WR to the safety, and the safety was way late. To be fair to Rouse, this was noticeable through the entire preseason - when the defensive backfield was playing zone, the handoff of receivers from the corners to the safeties was marginal at best, leaving pretty big gaps. If there is no/reduced pass rush, that gets exposed right away.

Unless the Packers are rushing more than five, in most of Capers schemes, there will be three across zone in the back. Not always, but generally. The most basic look is six in zone, four rush and one to decide what to do at the LOS.

So if Wood was 1 yard off the LOS, then I would think there should be someone behind him in the deep 1/3. Not just the single deep safety.

Yer right, PB, but not on that play.

When they send 5 they play 3-3 in the back of the blitz. Two corners deep is called "sky", two safeties is 'cloud'.

This situation was some kind of Capers hybrid. The played 9 guys within a yard of the LOS with two safeties. At the snap, rouse went the wrong way and Coles was wide open for the six. On those two touchdowns on Rouse, he wasn't in the vicinity of the receiver.

It was bad and helped get the guy's ass cut.

Thanks for the info KYP. Makes sense now.

I really have to think about putting a sacrificial lamb of a computer in the DMZ and just download the Bit Torrent of the game. Not having a DVR is really hindering my ability to waste time at work.

[Dabaddestbear]

Indy fans react to Giordano's release........

http://forum.colts.com/showthread.php?t=44449

Seems like a sweet and sour pickup for you guys. Fast on ST, but can't cover as a safety

[pbmax]

Indy fans react to Giordano's release........

http://forum.colts.com/showthread.php?t=44449

Seems like a sweet and sour pickup for you guys. Fast on ST, but can't cover as a safety

Just make sure the Bears send us a thank you note when you guys pick up Rouse, OK?

[Dabaddestbear]

I don't have the video of the game with me, but I'm pretty sure Rouse was involved in one of the special team fuck ups as well as the 3rd and 34 fuck up. Defensive coordinators have been fired for giving up 26 yards on a critical down, so why not a backup safety on 34? Giordano not only helps teams and safety, but he can bring in the best stuffed pizza there is.

YES!!! You may just whoo some Chicago fans over with this pickup.
Some of the best Pizza in the Midwest!

[Dabaddestbear]

Indy fans react to Giordano's release........

http://forum.colts.com/showthread.php?t=44449

Seems like a sweet and sour pickup for you guys. Fast on ST, but can't cover as a safety

Just make sure the Bears send us a thank you note when you guys pick up Rouse, OK?

Please dont curse us with that. We have our own problems trying to find a solid free safety. But I think you guys may be using the Pizza guy when Capers want to send the safety on blitz, utilizing his speed.

[Patler]

Even if Giordano is no better than Rouse he may be more valuable than Rouse. Weren't they "hopeful" that Rouse could play this weekend, following a stinger on Sunday? The guy played only a little, but has been hurt a lot. When they needed him last year he was hurt, too.