Great article on insider

[Waldo]

From what I've seen, Pickett has been doing well.

Here is the play that I've seen us struggle against:

When they try to single block Pickett and run through the A gaps, he makes the play. When they single block Pickett and run off tackle, we're giving up bigger runs.

That hopefully will be corrected in time. As they trust a single blocked Pickett to make the play in the middle, watching the G's immediately head for the second level should be a key for the S's to head for the flats, don't worry about the middle.

Our S's have been late getting to the edges (especially the SS's).

And dammit, Poppinga has broken outside contain way too many times this year. Every single time he was left completely unblocked, the play went the other way, he chased it, the back cut back and had daylight. Our long run of the year....20 yards by SJ around the defensive right corner, 100% Pops fault. Clay should be starting, he has the speed to make up for that, he can win a quick burst footrace with most elite RB's. Plus he hasn't been nearly as poorly out of position.

Against AD, I really hope Clay plays all snaps, only our DB's are faster than Clay in a short burst (man is it noticable on the field too, that kid can fly); against a speedy back like AD, speed is a necessity.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Re: Great article on insider

Grant lacks vision and cut ability and is basically just a guy. We could pick up a lot of guys off the street to do what he does.

Grant is nothing special as a #1 back, He'd be a #2 on many teams.
But he's certainly the best back the packers have been able to draft or sign for three years, so he's not chopped liver as Coach Cleats suggests.

Questioned whether campen was the OLines problem. Said 6 of 28 run plays were blocked well.

I got confused by this, I thought your first sentence meant that Coach was defending Campen. I guess he is on the dump Campen bandwagon.

Hell, who among us is qualified to say whether the problem with the Oline is with coaching or TT's talent eye? Maybe Cleff Crusty, but that's it.

Said the secondary has no depth.

No shit, Sherlock. Except I got no problem with Williams at #3 corner, if he considers the nickle "depth."

[HarveyWallbangers]

Re: Great article on insider

Questioned whether campen was the OLines problem. Said 6 of 28 run plays were blocked well.

I got confused by this, I thought your first sentence meant that Coach was defending Campen. I guess he is on the dump Campen bandwagon.

Hell, who among us is qualified to say whether the problem with the Oline is with coaching or TT's talent eye? Maybe Cleff Crusty, but that's it.

Here is his quote:

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/62487892.html

Eric Baranczyk provides his analysis (again on Insider): "I can't believe that the Packers can't get that offensive line with all the second-, third- and fourth-round draft picks they have and the experience some of those guys have now to be more technically sound and to play at a higher level. Out of the 28 carries by running backs, I counted six that were blocked well and most of those were in the fourth quarter. A lot of times coaches have to try and overcome lousy talent; but it's also true that sometimes players have to overcome lousy coaching."

[SkinBasket]

I was preaching that Grant sucks in the game thread. Everyone got on top of me in a mean, vicious way telling me how wrong and dumb I was. Turns out the professionals and I see eye to eye.

From the way this thread is going, I don't think you want to align yourself with this guy, Partial.

Also, where should we FedEx the box of tissues to?

[hoosier]

I was preaching that Grant sucks in the game thread. Everyone got on top of me in a mean, vicious way telling me how wrong and dumb I was. Turns out the professionals and I see eye to eye.

In another thread you wrote that you would be turning over a new leaf and no longer engaging in uncivil back and forths with other posters. If I can offer you some unsolicited advice, it would be that reminding others that you were right and they were wrong is equally unproductive. The same goes for rehashing how everyone else in the forum wronged you. Just let the evidence speak for itself.

[mraynrand]

Turns out the professionals....


Here he is, Eric Baranczykrofessional assistant high school coach

[cheesner]

Re: Great article on insider

I can't link, since its subscription, and I can't copy, but I can paraphrase what a coach told Cliff Christl.

Grant lacks vision and cut ability and is basically just a guy. We could pick up a lot of guys off the street to do what he does. (were you one of the rats who was demanding TT pay him?).

Nope.

But I am one of those who thinks Christl should have retired about 20 years ago. He does not have a deep understanding of football and appears to loathe the Packers - always wanting to put an underlying tone of contempt for the players, coaches, and the management. He typically takes a negative slant on all of his articles.

[mraynrand]

Re: Great article on insider

I can't link, since its subscription, and I can't copy, but I can paraphrase what a coach told Cliff Christl.

Grant lacks vision and cut ability and is basically just a guy. We could pick up a lot of guys off the street to do what he does. (were you one of the rats who was demanding TT pay him?).

Nope.

But I am one of those who thinks Christl should have retired about 20 years ago. He does not have a deep understanding of football and appears to loathe the Packers - always wanting to put an underlying tone of contempt for the players, coaches, and the management. He typically takes a negative slant on all of his articles.

The article in question isn't by Cristl - he is channeling the thoughts of a professional assistant high school football coach who can't write.

[cheesner]

Re: Great article on insider

We get problems at safety and Chillar ends up playing there. Chillar lost a footrace for a touchdown covering a guy he shouldn't be covering (ha, you were wrong waldo, chillar is no safety at all). Actually the guy said chillar played pretty well there overall, but it was a tough position to put him in covering TE's man to man.

You don't see the coaches getting Bishop in the game by playing him at S.

Did I not suggest just last week that Chillar could play SS on base downs and ILB on pass downs?

I guess the coaches see him the same way I do.

In all due respect, Waldo, who would you rather agree with you:

- a staff of NFL coaches for a team who are not even in first place in their division
- or a man who has risen thru the ranks to the highest position an assistant coach can aspire to (in the ENTIRE school district) for a team that is the reigning conference champions? They beat Spooner 26-7 you know.

[Waldo]

I wonder what his night job is, bartender? Perhaps where Cliffy likes to hang out?

The Urinal could have a couple of guys that they pay $20 a week to give them some game notes. Guys the reporters met at the bar that seemed to know something about football. As employees of the paper (even as contractors), a title would have to be assigned. Like scout. The reporters could then quote them or paraphrase them, and refer to them as scouts, and be legit. Misleading, they aren't really people employed by teams to grade players, but scouts nonetheless. Sad but true.

And I've always been under the impression that when they quote "scouts", they don't know shit about football and fixate on the type of shit that a scout wouldn't fixate on. Cliche type stuff. And the same stuff that the broadcasters latched on to. Like they were watching broadcast tape and not coaches tape (which a legit scout would surely have access to). That the scouts they quote really are just some Joe Schmos they met, that thy pay a couple bucks for their effort and the ability to call them scout.

Did anyone perhaps read that article that quoted some scouts saying that Colledge can't play LT because he isn't athletic enough.

Athleticism is surely not DC's problem.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

please tell me cheesner that you aren't suggesting Eric B is in anyway comparable with an NFL coach....fuck, the guy isn't even coaching D3 college ball.

[Sparkey]

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[cheesner]

Re: Great article on insider

The article in question isn't by Cristl - he is channeling the thoughts of a professional assistant high school football coach who can't write.

I don't get insider, but my understanding is he wrote the article. Here is how his interview probably went:

CHRYSTL: How do you rate Ted Thompson?

Assist Coach: He is an excellent GM with fantastic skills. Makes great analysis and picks the right guy in the draft time and time again. And he is only going to get better as he learns all the nuances of his position. He may draft a clunker here an there, but they are usually high risk/reward picks and are worth it. Packers are fortunate to have him, the only GM I would like over TT is the guy from NE.

CHRYSTL (Writing notes): "TT needs to learn what he is doing. He drafts clunkers. Packers need to go after another GM - maybe guy from NE"

[cheesner]

please tell me cheesner that you aren't suggesting Eric B is in anyway comparable with an NFL coach....fuck, the guy isn't even coaching D3 college ball.

Anyone can coach college ball at the division 3 level.


We are talking Ashwaubenon High here. The big time.

[falco]

In another thread you wrote that you would be turning over a new leaf and no longer engaging in uncivil back and forths with other posters. If I can offer you some unsolicited advice, it would be that reminding others that you were right and they were wrong is equally unproductive. The same goes for rehashing how everyone else in the forum wronged you. Just let the evidence speak for itself.

just like a fat chick's diet, partials "new leaf" is always starting tomorrow.