Is Ryan Grant Really the Answer at Running Back?

[SnakeLH2006]

Excellent thread!

I voted for drafting a 1st round RB in 2010; you actually need 2 good backs and that guy might be better than Grant. I think Grant is OK and nice to have...but let's get a Felix Jones type of back without the injuries though.

Lots of NFL teams that emphasis the run draft high for RBs even with one guy already in the stable...now about that OL too....

But we already have two. Brandon Jackson is injured, but he showed flashes last season when healthy. He'll be back. Our RB stable is not so bare as some would make it seem.

I'll agree to that. But the poll question is this...is Grant the answer? NOPE. Move on. He's 28 soon and couldn't run over/shake a tackle if his life depended on it, no? Grant is NOT the answer at RB. Our OL is average. I'm only looking at Grant's RB skills.....there is not a whole lot via topic/poll. No, Gun?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

How many yards (season) did the 2 starting RBs have for the 2 teams in last year's superbowl have.

[SnakeLH2006]

How many yards (season) did the 2 starting RBs have for the 2 teams in last year's superbowl have.

No one cares, but I bet we all laugh/bow to this:

http://achievements.schrankmonster.d...nstein%20FAILS.

[Gunakor]

Excellent thread!

I voted for drafting a 1st round RB in 2010; you actually need 2 good backs and that guy might be better than Grant. I think Grant is OK and nice to have...but let's get a Felix Jones type of back without the injuries though.

Lots of NFL teams that emphasis the run draft high for RBs even with one guy already in the stable...now about that OL too....

But we already have two. Brandon Jackson is injured, but he showed flashes last season when healthy. He'll be back. Our RB stable is not so bare as some would make it seem.

I'll agree to that. But the poll question is this...is Grant the answer? NOPE. Move on. He's 28 soon and couldn't run over/shake a tackle if his life depended on it, no? Grant is NOT the answer at RB. Our OL is average. I'm only looking at Grant's RB skills.....there is not a whole lot via topic/poll. No, Gun?

Well, our OL is god awful right now. Far below average.

He can run over/shake a tackle. If you watch, he normally hits first contact behind the LOS, yet is rarely stopped for negative yardage. He can carry DB's 5 or more yards downfield if he could only get to that second level. I've seen him do it on more than one occasion. Against good rush defenses to boot. Whether its 125 against the Bears (last season) or 200 against the Seahawks (2 seasons ago) I've seen him get the job done.

There's always room for improvement, but he's not garbage. Is he the answer? Maybe, maybe not. This offense isn't driven by the RB anyway. A decent back who can average 4 ypc behind a decent OL is all the answer we need out of the position anyway. Just something to keep defenses honest so AR can do his thing. That's the answer. And it's something I honestly feel Grant could do consistently if we had a halfway decent line blocking for him.

[Gunakor]

How many yards (season) did the 2 starting RBs have for the 2 teams in last year's superbowl have.

No one cares, but I bet we all laugh/bow to this:

http://achievements.schrankmonster.d...nstein%20FAILS.

That's kinda messed up Snake, it's a legitimate question. Especially where the Cardinals are concerned, because their offense is driven by the passing game same as ours is. If Tim Hightower can be the answer for them, Ryan Grant can be the answer for us. It's a fair point to make.

[SnakeLH2006]

Well, yeah, Gunakor (my late night homie). Grant can be good game to game.....but the point of this poll is Grant the godsend, no? I agree, Grant has some deece games, but EVERY starting NFL RB should, no? He's below average by far, and should/WILL be replaced.....hopefully.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

How many yards (season) did the 2 starting RBs have for the 2 teams in last year's superbowl have.

No one cares, but I bet we all laugh/bow to this:

http://achievements.schrankmonster.d...nstein%20FAILS.

That's kinda messed up Snake, it's a legitimate question. Especially where the Cardinals are concerned, because their offense is driven by the passing game same as ours is. If Tim Hightower can be the answer for them, Ryan Grant can be the answer for us. It's a fair point to make.

Actually, Edge took the job back for the playoffs. But that just tells you how bad the Cards rushing offense was. They just hoped it would be mediocre so you had to at least consider that they might run.

And, Fast Willie was the other part of the equation..for the winning team..which supposedly was a running team, but Wilie had 791 yards with 3.8 ypc.

2nd leading was Mewelde Moore (who Ty has always liked) with 588 yards and 4.2 ypc.

Hardly awe inspiring.

[Gunakor]

Well, yeah, Gunakor (my late night homie). Grant can be good game to game.....but the point of this poll is Grant the godsend, no? I agree, Grant has some deece games, but EVERY starting NFL RB should, no? He's below average by far, and should/WILL be replaced.....hopefully.

I think you just set your expectations too high. We don't need a godsend at RB. We don't. We need a 4 ypc guy. Grant is a 4 ypc guy. He could very well be the answer.

Let's work on protecting AR before we focus on a newer/better RB.

[SnakeLH2006]

Well, yeah, Gunakor (my late night homie). Grant can be good game to game.....but the point of this poll is Grant the godsend, no? I agree, Grant has some deece games, but EVERY starting NFL RB should, no? He's below average by far, and should/WILL be replaced.....hopefully.

I think you just set your expectations too high. We don't need a godsend at RB. We don't. We need a 4 ypc guy. Grant is a 4 ypc guy. He could very well be the answer.

Let's work on protecting AR before we focus on a newer/better RB.

LOL. Yep. Gun, you are the late night voice of reason. Snake really likes you dude. I agree. But again, this poll was not if Grant could get us 4 yards avg. This poll was if Grant is the ANSWER. I still say no.

[Gunakor]

Well, yeah, Gunakor (my late night homie). Grant can be good game to game.....but the point of this poll is Grant the godsend, no? I agree, Grant has some deece games, but EVERY starting NFL RB should, no? He's below average by far, and should/WILL be replaced.....hopefully.

I think you just set your expectations too high. We don't need a godsend at RB. We don't. We need a 4 ypc guy. Grant is a 4 ypc guy. He could very well be the answer.

Let's work on protecting AR before we focus on a newer/better RB.

LOL. Yep. Gun, you are the late night voice of reason. Snake really likes you dude. I agree. But again, this poll was not if Grant could get us 4 yards avg. This poll was if Grant is the ANSWER.

That's the point Snake. 4 yards avg. IS the answer. If Grant is 4 ypc, he's the answer. That's how I justify it.

[SnakeLH2006]

Well, yeah, Gunakor (my late night homie). Grant can be good game to game.....but the point of this poll is Grant the godsend, no? I agree, Grant has some deece games, but EVERY starting NFL RB should, no? He's below average by far, and should/WILL be replaced.....hopefully.

I think you just set your expectations too high. We don't need a godsend at RB. We don't. We need a 4 ypc guy. Grant is a 4 ypc guy. He could very well be the answer.

Let's work on protecting AR before we focus on a newer/better RB.

LOL. Yep. Gun, you are the late night voice of reason. Snake really likes you dude. I agree. But again, this poll was not if Grant could get us 4 yards avg. This poll was if Grant is the ANSWER.

That's the point Snake. 4 yards avg. IS the answer. If Grant is 4 ypc, he's the answer. That's how I justify it.

That's cool, Gun, where did you vote? The OL is shit...but I was just concentrating on Grant's RB skills.....

I'm OK with Grant at RB.....but damn if I don't want an upgrade somewhere/somehow? No? Grant really underwhelms me?

[Gunakor]

Well, yeah, Gunakor (my late night homie). Grant can be good game to game.....but the point of this poll is Grant the godsend, no? I agree, Grant has some deece games, but EVERY starting NFL RB should, no? He's below average by far, and should/WILL be replaced.....hopefully.

I think you just set your expectations too high. We don't need a godsend at RB. We don't. We need a 4 ypc guy. Grant is a 4 ypc guy. He could very well be the answer.

Let's work on protecting AR before we focus on a newer/better RB.

LOL. Yep. Gun, you are the late night voice of reason. Snake really likes you dude. I agree. But again, this poll was not if Grant could get us 4 yards avg. This poll was if Grant is the ANSWER.

That's the point Snake. 4 yards avg. IS the answer. If Grant is 4 ypc, he's the answer. That's how I justify it.

That's cool, Gun, where did you vote? I'm OK with Grant at RB.....but damn if I don't want an upgrade somewhere/somehow? No? Grant really underwhelms me?

I voted that he's a deece RB but worth an upgrade if we can. But that's not to say we should go overboard with it. If someone is there and it fits the overall plan for the offseason then pull the trigger. But it's not worth a 1st round pick. Not right now.

There's so many other positions in dire need of that first round talent. Offensive tackle, strong safety, another top flight cornerback. All much more needed improvements than at RB. Now, if there's someone sitting there in the 3rd round that should have been taken in the 2nd, definitely pull the trigger. Worst case scenario you have the best 3rd string RB in the NFL. But I wouldn't waste a first rounder on a RB, and we already have a 2nd rounder on the roster who looks pretty decent himself. Day one should be spent on protecting our QB.

[SnakeLH2006]

Day one should be spent on protecting our QB.

Well said, Gun. We gotta get some 1at round OTs. I still like Raji, but damn those OT's look like fucking sieves, no? Arod in 2009 will still get 30 TD's 4000 yards, but it's misleading....He's doing that on his talent alone. Need another thread for that.

Grant sucks as starting RB in the NFL. Had to restart it. He really underwhelms.

[Gunakor]

] Day one should be spent on protecting our QB.

Well said, Gun. We gotta get some 1at round OTs. I still like Raji, but damn those OT's look like fucking sieves, no?

I'm guessing this is Cliffy's last year whether he gets healthy or not. So we need 2 OT's. Even if Ted Thompson was Daniel Snyder he couldn't fill 2 OT positions with adequate players thru FA in the same offseason. We're gonna need at least one through the draft, and it had better come from either of the first 2 rounds.

I was happy with the Raji pick. We needed OT's and there were some to be had, but lets be honest. Going into the draft, most of us would have been delighted if TT spent every one of his picks on the defensive side of the ball. That defense was horrible last year. Change in scheme meant we needed players that could get the job done in that scheme. And Raji is gonna be a stud NT in the future when Pickett is done. I loved that pick. And Matthews looks like he might just be worth the fleecing Thompson took to get him here. I'm very happy with the way the first round turned out this year.

[SnakeLH2006]

] Day one should be spent on protecting our QB.

Well said, Gun. We gotta get some 1at round OTs. I still like Raji, but damn those OT's look like fucking sieves, no?

I'm guessing this is Cliffy's last year whether he gets healthy or not. So we need 2 OT's. Even if Ted Thompson was Daniel Snyder he couldn't fill 2 OT positions with adequate players thru FA in the same offseason. We're gonna need at least one through the draft, and it had better come from either of the first 2 rounds.

I was happy with the Raji pick. We needed OT's and there were some to be had, but lets be honest. Going into the draft, most of us would have been delighted if TT spent every one of his picks on the defensive side of the ball. That defense was horrible last year. Change in scheme meant we needed players that could get the job done in that scheme. And Raji is gonna be a stud NT in the future when Pickett is done. I loved that pick. And Matthews looks like he might just be worth the fleecing Thompson took to get him here. I'm very happy with the way the first round turned out this year.

Again....you have so much knowledgable shit to agree with...I agree to all of it, as usual, Gunakor....but again, this thread is about Ryan Grant.

He sucks.....much ass.