McCarthy on the game

[Partial]

Rodgers is almost too protective of the football for my tastes. A good INT really keeps thing interesting. :P

That said, I think his ceiling is already capped as a very solid starter at best if he doesn't take more chances. He'll always have nice stats but struggle against elite D's imo.

I think the best QB in the division could eventually be Stafford. He looked so much like Favre with his willingness to sling it around on Sunday.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Rodgers is almost too protective of the football for my tastes. A good INT really keeps thing interesting. :P

That said, I think his ceiling is already capped as a very solid starter at best if he doesn't take more chances. He'll always have nice stats but struggle against elite D's imo.

I think the best QB in the division could eventually be Stafford. He looked so much like Favre with his willingness to sling it around on Sunday.

1. Ints....funny, that was a joke thread ty had last year.
2. Capped. Well, you disagree with most experts. No surprise there.
3. Elite D. Most Qbs do. Bert certainly had his problems with elite Ds. Infact....he had 100 losses.
4. Stafford. Maybe. We'll see. Hard to judge Arod regarding what he will do when he is running for his life. Detroit's line is better than ours.

[3irty1]

"Holds on to the ball to long" is something you say about rookie tards who shit down their leg and get happy feet. Rodgers holds on to the ball because he's fearless and because he's trying to make plays a la Ben Roethlisberger. Rodgers can be a little slippery in the Pocket but Big Ben is straight up coated in lube.

I'd like him to be a little more aware but I still like how his focus is down field and I admire his courage. He's already a great player, now hes just got some wrinkles to iron out of his game.

[Partial]

"Holds on to the ball to long" is something you say about rookie tards who shit down their leg and get happy feet. Rodgers holds on to the ball because he's fearless and because he's trying to make plays a la Ben Roethlisberger. Rodgers can be a little slippery in the Pocket but Big Ben is straight up coated in lube.

I'd like him to be a little more aware but I still like how his focus is down field and I admire his courage. He's already a great player, now hes just got some wrinkles to iron out of his game.

Rodgers ain't Big Ben, thats for sure.. At best he is slightly bigger than small Aaron. Taking unnecessary sacks is stupid, any way you slice it. BB has the strength and size to stay on his feet. Rodgers does not. This isn't even considering the injury factor, either.

[Sparkey]

Rodgers certainly holds the ball too long...he's still a relatively inexperienced starter by NFL standards, and he looks awful jittery in the pocket after taking all those hits. Thompson has really set this team back by ignoring the OL for 2-3 years. I've yelled about picking up some FA OL help for 2 years running now.

Agree. AR can not read progressions as quickly as BF. Its not completely on the line--AR needs to throw the ball away more.

Maybe AR is too concerned with stats.

Yes. Arod is concerned with stats. He knows that stats will get him a big fat contract.

Arod is a young qb who is playing about as well as any young qb could with a crap line. Stop comparing him to Bert..bert aint' here.

How about comparing him to Flacco, Matt Ryan, jamarcus russell, etc. Nobody here can honestly say that those guys definitively would be better with this crap line, average rb, and receivers dropping tds.

Valid point. In winning super bowls with the wco, who were the qbs -- Montana, Young, Favre. Is Rodgers in this category or just a stat monster like Peyton was early in his career?

1. We arent' running the west coast offense of those qbs...though i get the point.
2. How many starts did bert, young and montana have b4 they won a SB.
2a. How many pro bowlers were on the 9ers and pack.
2b. Do you think MM is in the category of Holmgren, Walsh, and Seifert.
2c. Do you think that MM's staff will have the tree that Walsh and Holmgren had.
3. If Arod follows the career trajectory of Manning...are you complaining?
4. Was Bert a stat monster till he won a SB? Since you seem to use this term pejoratively, are all QBs who are successful, but fail to win a SB stat monsters? Are Drew Brees, Rivers, Ryan, McNabb, Cutler, Hasselbeck, etc. stat monsters.
5. Was john elway a stat monster till he won a SB?

Yes or No -- Does A-Rod win a super bowl as a Packer? Please quit tap dancing.

Lets see, it wasn't until year 5 of Favre as a starter that he won a superbowl. Since Rodgers is in year 2 as a starter, we get a few more years to answer that.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

"Holds on to the ball to long" is something you say about rookie tards who shit down their leg and get happy feet. Rodgers holds on to the ball because he's fearless and because he's trying to make plays a la Ben Roethlisberger. Rodgers can be a little slippery in the Pocket but Big Ben is straight up coated in lube.

I'd like him to be a little more aware but I still like how his focus is down field and I admire his courage. He's already a great player, now hes just got some wrinkles to iron out of his game.

Rodgers ain't Big Ben, thats for sure.. At best he is slightly bigger than small Aaron. Taking unnecessary sacks is stupid, any way you slice it. BB has the strength and size to stay on his feet. Rodgers does not. This isn't even considering the injury factor, either.

Still hoping he gets injured so you can say told you so. Didn't happen last year...must have bummed you.

But, you are right..arod ain't BB.....he is a far better passer.

[Sparkey]

Rodgers is almost too protective of the football for my tastes. A good INT really keeps thing interesting. :P

That said, I think his ceiling is already capped as a very solid starter at best if he doesn't take more chances. He'll always have nice stats but struggle against elite D's imo.

I think the best QB in the division could eventually be Stafford. He looked so much like Favre with his willingness to sling it around on Sunday.

Are you bi-polar ? Not inferring any condition, just curious how someone can defend and argue the exact opposite view points on the same player in the same day ? Either that or it is intended to draw responses. If so, its working quite well.

Either way, thanks for the entertainment.

[Partial]

"Holds on to the ball to long" is something you say about rookie tards who shit down their leg and get happy feet. Rodgers holds on to the ball because he's fearless and because he's trying to make plays a la Ben Roethlisberger. Rodgers can be a little slippery in the Pocket but Big Ben is straight up coated in lube.

I'd like him to be a little more aware but I still like how his focus is down field and I admire his courage. He's already a great player, now hes just got some wrinkles to iron out of his game.

Rodgers ain't Big Ben, thats for sure.. At best he is slightly bigger than small Aaron. Taking unnecessary sacks is stupid, any way you slice it. BB has the strength and size to stay on his feet. Rodgers does not. This isn't even considering the injury factor, either.

Still hoping he gets injured so you can say told you so. Didn't happen last year...must have bummed you.

But, you are right..arod ain't BB.....he is a far better passer.

I completely disagree with you. I could not disagree with you more, as a matter of fact. Big Ben is a much better QB and playmaker. Maybe he isn't as good of a pure passer, but give me a winner over a loser who throws a pretty ball every day of the week. Not saying ARod is a loser overall, but he cannot hold Big Ben's jock.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

"Holds on to the ball to long" is something you say about rookie tards who shit down their leg and get happy feet. Rodgers holds on to the ball because he's fearless and because he's trying to make plays a la Ben Roethlisberger. Rodgers can be a little slippery in the Pocket but Big Ben is straight up coated in lube.

I'd like him to be a little more aware but I still like how his focus is down field and I admire his courage. He's already a great player, now hes just got some wrinkles to iron out of his game.

Rodgers ain't Big Ben, thats for sure.. At best he is slightly bigger than small Aaron. Taking unnecessary sacks is stupid, any way you slice it. BB has the strength and size to stay on his feet. Rodgers does not. This isn't even considering the injury factor, either.

Still hoping he gets injured so you can say told you so. Didn't happen last year...must have bummed you.

But, you are right..arod ain't BB.....he is a far better passer.

I completely disagree with you. I could not disagree with you more, as a matter of fact. Big Ben is a much better QB and playmaker. Maybe he isn't as good of a pure passer, but give me a winner over a loser who throws a pretty ball every day of the week. Not saying ARod is a loser overall, but he cannot hold Big Ben's jock.

You are disgreeing with yourself....as i never said one thing about comparing them as qbs...cept as passers.

How much of winner would arod be on the steelers? LOL

Keep the dream alive, arod mite get hurt.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Rodgers is almost too protective of the football for my tastes. A good INT really keeps thing interesting. :P

That said, I think his ceiling is already capped as a very solid starter at best if he doesn't take more chances. He'll always have nice stats but struggle against elite D's imo.

I think the best QB in the division could eventually be Stafford. He looked so much like Favre with his willingness to sling it around on Sunday.

Are you bi-polar ?

We can only wish this was a medical condition.

[Sparkey]

Rodgers is almost too protective of the football for my tastes. A good INT really keeps thing interesting. :P

That said, I think his ceiling is already capped as a very solid starter at best if he doesn't take more chances. He'll always have nice stats but struggle against elite D's imo.

I think the best QB in the division could eventually be Stafford. He looked so much like Favre with his willingness to sling it around on Sunday.

Are you bi-polar ?

We can only wish this was a medical condition.

Actually a serious question for me. I could go back through a week of posts, find posts about Arod by an un-named poster and they are back and forth arguing completely opposed views on the same player about the same issues. At least they are semi-amusing most times.

Maybe its the moniker:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/partial

Main Entry: par·tial
Pronunciation: \ˈpär-shəl\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English parcial, from Late Latin partialis, from Latin part-, pars part
Date: 14th century

1 : of or relating to a part rather than the whole : not general or total <a partial solution>
2 : inclined to favor one party more than the other : biased
3 : markedly fond of someone or something —used with to <partial to pizza>

[Guiness]

Does 'Rodgers' win an SB?

Geez, that has to be the stupidest and most overused measure of a QB's skill. Hostetler won one. So did Dilfer. O'Donnel was a hair's breath away. Marino never really got a sniff after his sophmore season. That doesn't change my opinion of any of them.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Does 'Rodgers' win an SB?

Geez, that has to be the stupidest and most overused measure of a QB's skill. Hostetler won one. So did Dilfer. O'Donnel was a hair's breath away. Marino never really got a sniff after his sophmore season. That doesn't change my opinion of any of them.

Dang, Guiness, Ty was deliberately waiting....or didn't you figure out the difference tween...ty saying "does he win"..ty doesn't know....can he win...yes.

Anyone who says arod can't win one hasn't been watching the NFL...Rypien, Doug Williams, Brad Johnson...and of course your examples.

Marino....stat monster.

[bobblehead]

"Holds on to the ball to long" is something you say about rookie tards who shit down their leg and get happy feet. Rodgers holds on to the ball because he's fearless and because he's trying to make plays a la Ben Roethlisberger. Rodgers can be a little slippery in the Pocket but Big Ben is straight up coated in lube.

I'd like him to be a little more aware but I still like how his focus is down field and I admire his courage. He's already a great player, now hes just got some wrinkles to iron out of his game.

QFT....this says it all. If ARod would give up on a few more downs when the line is sucking ass instead of rolling out of the pocket and making big plays....well, then he would take less sacks too. Its a mixed blessing.

I said last year I have never seen an immobile QB avoid sacks like big ben does...not wonder that host in reno never had a chance.

[SnakeLH2006]

Re: McCarthy on the game

* Derrick Martin had a throat bruise and he stayed overnight in the hospital.

I thought Al Harris was going to choke him after the TD to Berrian.

They both have cock-bruises to the throat. Check Skin on the day to day cock bruises though.