Best team ever!

[bobblehead]

Well, logically this would mean if the Vikings DONT go 13-3 and win the SB, it is Brett Favre's fault.

14-2 actually was his best season with the pack.

I don't think so. 13-3, twice, I think. 96 & 97. never went 14-2...

edit - and 2007 too. so that makes 3.

My bad then...for some reason the year we LOST the super bowl I thought we went 14-2....thats my revisionist history classes at work.

[DannoMac21]

It still absolutely baffles me to see people behind #4. The starting quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings. The guy ran HIS show. Favre wanted to play for the Vikings. He didn't want to be in Green Bay. If he didn't want to be here, why do people still continue to cheer for him and support him? After EVERYTHING the fans have done for him. And he doesn't wanna be here. He's pretty much giving every Packer fan the bird.

[bobblehead]

Really both you two cut it out, I am beginning to blush .

Both of you are right. I no longer bleed Gold and Green. 1/8th of the time I want the Packers to lose this season, maybe one game in the playoffs as well. I don't support what Thompson is doing. If he is successful I have no problems admitting that I am wrong. I just don't think what he is doing to this point is successful, sure he has had some moments of success but he certainly has not brought stability to this franchise during his reign has GM.

If I knew the right answers I would most certainly not be posting here, and the very least I would be on some shitty blog right now, at the very most I would be running a CFL franchise, lets face it the NFL is all about who you know.

Hate the Packers, no. I just simply find them amusing.

I understand it Nutz (better now a couple weeks later) and the only difference between you and me is that I would hope to high hell that I'm wrong. I don't do that often as my ego would usually rather be proven right, but when it comes to the pack I would like nothing more than Babre to turn into a complete stud and prove me wrong...which is what happened with Collins a year ago...it clicked, he went from looking clueless to beastly. Now, when we are talking politics (specifically economics) I'm so sure of my convictions based on history and area of expertise, that yes, I want America to suffer under Obama. The long term damage he is doing outweighs any short term satisfaction that we get due to normal recession recovery.

[MOBB DEEP]

Favre wanted to play for the Vikings. He didn't want to be in Green Bay

when did YOU start following the charade? This summer?

[MOBB DEEP]

Re: Best team ever!

Brett saying that his current team is the best team he has ever played on.

That boy not right....

[gex]

I've noticed that the younger (age and emotionally) posters seem to be taking the split the hardest and are still holding the negative feelings in.

[MadtownPacker]

Wow bulldog, you dont show your avatar for a long time then come in just to start this thread?? Pathetic that you start a thread about Favre when you cried about it before. Where you been at anyways?

[Partial]

I think Favre may have a point. Green was great, but Peterson is out of this world. Jared Allen is very, very good and I think it's probably a toss-up between the GB line of 1996 and the Vikings line with the Williams and Allen. Winfield is gotta be better than either Evans or Newsome, but I don't think they have quality safeties, their LBs are solid and fast. Their OL is good. The receivers are good enough as Favre makes them better. Can't match up at TE.

He could be right when you think about it. Different NFL today so tough to compare the #1 rankings, especially when Favre is referring to the team around him being the most talented (thus not including himself, which was a huge reason for the #1 offense of 1996... hof in prime of career)

That said, I'm very tired of all the "YOU'RE NOT A FAN UNLESS YOU..." talk. Shut up. Being a fan of something means you enjoy something. Who are you to tell anyone else what brings them joy or how to experience it? I'm really turned off by the delusional cult-esque chatter about how if I want to be a Packer fan I have to do this, and this, and that. It's stupid.

[packers11]

For some reason whenever Favre said he had the best team they never went to the Super Bowl...

So there can only be two conclusions...

1) Hes delusional as hell

2) Hes holding his team back from the big game

[GrnBay007]

That said, I'm very tired of all the "YOU'RE NOT A FAN UNLESS YOU..." talk. Shut up. Being a fan of something means you enjoy something. Who are you to tell anyone else what brings them joy or how to experience it?

I started thinking there was this special private school some went to in order to get their degree and job in deciding who is or is not a Packer fan and who is worthy. :P

[th87]

There are different degrees of fandom:

Group 1: People who have a casual "it's just entertainment" approach and the Packers are a fun pastime to enjoy, but football takes a backseat to other, far more important things in life.

Group 2: People who view the Packer nation as almost a real nation. They represent your city and state against "them". This leads to a fierce nationalism of sorts, where the fandom is far more raucous, and probably less reasonable.

I probably fall under Group 2. Packers football is not just entertainment to me - it represents a large part of my life. I can never ever ever ever ever root for the Vikings unless it benefited the Packers (and even then I'd feel really weird about it). This is why I could never root for Brett Favre ever again and why I consider him a traitor (unless he tanked the Vikings season on purpose and told Childress he's a Packer for life).

It is the lack of understanding between these two groups that cause most of the misunderstandings in here.

[channtheman]

There are different degrees of fandom:

Group 1: People who have a casual "it's just entertainment" approach and the Packers are a fun pastime to enjoy, but football takes a backseat to other, far more important things in life.

Group 2: People who view the Packer nation as almost a real nation. They represent your city and state against "them". This leads to a fierce nationalism of sorts, where the fandom is far more raucous, and probably less reasonable.

I probably fall under Group 2. Packers football is not just entertainment to me - it represents a large part of my life. I can never ever ever ever ever root for the Vikings unless it benefited the Packers (and even then I'd feel really weird about it). This is why I could never root for Brett Favre ever again and why I consider him a traitor (unless he tanked the Vikings season on purpose and told Childress he's a Packer for life).

It is the lack of understanding between these two groups that cause most of the misunderstandings in here.

Good post. I think what happened is people were in group 2 and the Packers meant everything. But after the TT/Favre split (where face it, there is no "correct" side, it comes down to everyone's own opinion) people may have switched over to group 1 with a sub group being "Favre" fan. Which is fine. And they can still be Packer fans and Favre fans.

I've seen people say "you can be a Favre fan, but don't you dare say you are also a Packer fan." That's bullshit and everyone knows it.

As for me, I'm in group 2, and always will be.

[MichiganPackerFan]

I think Favre may have a point. Green was great, but Peterson is out of this world. Jared Allen is very, very good and I think it's probably a toss-up between the GB line of 1996 and the Vikings line with the Williams and Allen. Winfield is gotta be better than either Evans or Newsome, but I don't think they have quality safeties, their LBs are solid and fast. Their OL is good. The receivers are good enough as Favre makes them better. Can't match up at TE.

He could be right when you think about it. Different NFL today so tough to compare the #1 rankings, especially when Favre is referring to the team around him being the most talented (thus not including himself, which was a huge reason for the #1 offense of 1996... hof in prime of career)

That said, I'm very tired of all the "YOU'RE NOT A FAN UNLESS YOU..." talk. Shut up. Being a fan of something means you enjoy something. Who are you to tell anyone else what brings them joy or how to experience it? I'm really turned off by the delusional cult-esque chatter about how if I want to be a Packer fan I have to do this, and this, and that. It's stupid.

Nice post.

[MichiganPackerFan]

I started thinking there was this special private school some went to in order to get their degree and job in deciding who is or is not a Packer fan and who is worthy. :P

Nope. Just have to ask me for my judgment call. And pro/anti- Favre has NOTHING to do with it!

[mmmdk]

I think Favre may have a point. Green was great, but Peterson is out of this world. Jared Allen is very, very good and I think it's probably a toss-up between the GB line of 1996 and the Vikings line with the Williams and Allen. Winfield is gotta be better than either Evans or Newsome, but I don't think they have quality safeties, their LBs are solid and fast. Their OL is good. The receivers are good enough as Favre makes them better. Can't match up at TE.

He could be right when you think about it. Different NFL today so tough to compare the #1 rankings, especially when Favre is referring to the team around him being the most talented (thus not including himself, which was a huge reason for the #1 offense of 1996... hof in prime of career)

That said, I'm very tired of all the "YOU'RE NOT A FAN UNLESS YOU..." talk. Shut up. Being a fan of something means you enjoy something. Who are you to tell anyone else what brings them joy or how to experience it? I'm really turned off by the delusional cult-esque chatter about how if I want to be a Packer fan I have to do this, and this, and that. It's stupid.

Nice post.

Acually a nice post. But it's week 6 so let's see. No doubt AD & Jared Allen are monster players, so Partial is on to something just like Bert is