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  • #76
    That's not at all what I'm saying. He may have good talent and have the potential abilities of a typical first round pick. Peterson is a once in a generation draft type of player. There is a Harrell every single year. The only reason Peterson fell is because of his injury history and those teams above the Vikes not needing RBs.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Partial
      That's not at all what I'm saying. He may have good talent and have the potential abilities of a typical first round pick. Peterson is a once in a generation draft type of player. There is a Harrell every single year. The only reason Peterson fell is because of his injury history and those teams above the Vikes not needing RBs.
      I don't worship a guy who could only manage 2.2 yards per carry on 25 carries against a substandard rush defense as a once in a generation type player, but that's just me. In fact, his production hasn't been all that spectacular since week 1.

      I get what your saying, but you missed what I originally responded to. Bretsky said Peterson has special talent and Harrell doesn't. That's false. Had Harrell declared early, after his junior season, he'd have gone top 10 same as Peterson. Harrell DOES have special talent, he just can't get healthy enough to put that talent on display. He's had several years to get healthy now, and eventually you have to pull the plug. But on draft day, both were expected to be outstanding football players.

      And hindsight aside, nobody expected Peterson to be this once in a generation type player the day he was drafted any more than they did Harrell.
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      • #78
        Originally posted by Gunakor
        Originally posted by Partial
        That's not at all what I'm saying. He may have good talent and have the potential abilities of a typical first round pick. Peterson is a once in a generation draft type of player. There is a Harrell every single year. The only reason Peterson fell is because of his injury history and those teams above the Vikes not needing RBs.
        I don't worship a guy who could only manage 2.2 yards per carry on 25 carries against a substandard rush defense as a once in a generation type player, but that's just me. In fact, his production hasn't been all that spectacular since week 1.

        I get what your saying, but you missed what I originally responded to. Bretsky said Peterson has special talent and Harrell doesn't. That's false. Had Harrell declared early, after his junior season, he'd have gone top 10 same as Peterson. Harrell DOES have special talent, he just can't get healthy enough to put that talent on display. He's had several years to get healthy now, and eventually you have to pull the plug. But on draft day, both were expected to be outstanding football players.

        And hindsight aside, nobody expected Peterson to be this once in a generation type player the day he was drafted any more than they did Harrell.
        I'm not sure Adrian Peterson was 100% healthy last week. Rastak??
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        • #79
          Once in a generation?! As in ~25 years? What about LT, Barry Sanders, Emmit Smith, Terrell Davis, Thurman Thomas? Those guys are just the Running backs.

          I know you like Peterson but thats a pretty bold claim even from you.
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          • #80
            to put to final nail in this goofy story

            PFT is running a story that the rams don't have the free cap room to absorb the cap hit that a trade would cause

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Partial
              That's not at all what I'm saying. He may have good talent and have the potential abilities of a typical first round pick. Peterson is a once in a generation draft type of player. There is a Harrell every single year. The only reason Peterson fell is because of his injury history and those teams above the Vikes not needing RBs.
              Adding to killer's statement; even if he IS the once in a generation talent, RBs and an effective running game are much easier to come by than two way Defensive Tackles in a 4-3.

              The injury concern isn't the only reason he dropped to the Vikes. When was the last RB selected number 1? And how many Super Bowl trips did he earn?
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              • #82
                Its really no point of talking about this, this trade is not going to happen along with any other trade involving the Packers. Ryan Grant is not a top RB in the league but he is better than some give him credit for. Our line is horrible and the zone blocking scheme is a joke. MM is also very predictable when he does run the ball and gives up on it way too easily.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by red
                  to put to final nail in this goofy story

                  PFT is running a story that the rams don't have the free cap room to absorb the cap hit that a trade would cause
                  Jesús, how are they this bad and spending this much money?
                  </delurk>

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Lurker64
                    Originally posted by red
                    to put to final nail in this goofy story

                    PFT is running a story that the rams don't have the free cap room to absorb the cap hit that a trade would cause
                    Jesús, how are they this bad and spending this much money?
                    Free Agency gone bad. They got aggressive and it didn't work out for them.
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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by MJZiggy
                      Originally posted by Lurker64
                      Originally posted by red
                      to put to final nail in this goofy story

                      PFT is running a story that the rams don't have the free cap room to absorb the cap hit that a trade would cause
                      Jesús, how are they this bad and spending this much money?
                      Free Agency gone bad. They got aggressive and it didn't work out for them.
                      Huh? aggressive free agency? No. They have over 5mil in cap right now. they released pace and holt in the offseason. they had too many aging veterans with high salaries.

                      the team got old. the only free agent veteran with a high salary charge is Will Witherspoon.

                      Steven Jackson is over 12 mil, bulger is over 7 mil., chris long is over 8 mil, even their kicker (who I guess was a free agent) is over 5mil...

                      too many older players, but their cap is OK. Jacksons contract is just too new with too high of a cap hit. that's all.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by retailguy
                        Originally posted by MJZiggy
                        Originally posted by Lurker64
                        Originally posted by red
                        to put to final nail in this goofy story

                        PFT is running a story that the rams don't have the free cap room to absorb the cap hit that a trade would cause
                        Jesús, how are they this bad and spending this much money?
                        Free Agency gone bad. They got aggressive and it didn't work out for them.
                        Huh? aggressive free agency? No. They have over 5mil in cap right now. they released pace and holt in the offseason. they had too many aging veterans with high salaries.

                        the team got old. the only free agent veteran with a high salary charge is Will Witherspoon.

                        Steven Jackson is over 12 mil, bulger is over 7 mil., chris long is over 8 mil, even their kicker (who I guess was a free agent) is over 5mil...

                        too many older players, but their cap is OK. Jacksons contract is just too new with too high of a cap hit. that's all.
                        Pssst...I was teasing B. The Rams are his "other" team.
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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by MJZiggy
                          Originally posted by retailguy
                          Originally posted by MJZiggy
                          Originally posted by Lurker64
                          Originally posted by red
                          to put to final nail in this goofy story

                          PFT is running a story that the rams don't have the free cap room to absorb the cap hit that a trade would cause
                          Jesús, how are they this bad and spending this much money?
                          Free Agency gone bad. They got aggressive and it didn't work out for them.
                          Huh? aggressive free agency? No. They have over 5mil in cap right now. they released pace and holt in the offseason. they had too many aging veterans with high salaries.

                          the team got old. the only free agent veteran with a high salary charge is Will Witherspoon.

                          Steven Jackson is over 12 mil, bulger is over 7 mil., chris long is over 8 mil, even their kicker (who I guess was a free agent) is over 5mil...

                          too many older players, but their cap is OK. Jacksons contract is just too new with too high of a cap hit. that's all.
                          Pssst...I was teasing B. The Rams are his "other" team.
                          Whew. I thought you'd joined the list of "evil free agency morons".

                          You know how it is around here. If you've heard of the guy, he's overpriced, unless he is a current packer.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by retailguy
                            Whew. I thought you'd joined the list of "evil free agency morons".

                            You know how it is around here. If you've heard of the guy, he's overpriced, unless he is a current packer.
                            I knew that Will Witherspoon signing would come back to haunt them!

                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by retailguy
                              Originally posted by MJZiggy
                              Originally posted by Lurker64
                              Originally posted by red
                              to put to final nail in this goofy story

                              PFT is running a story that the rams don't have the free cap room to absorb the cap hit that a trade would cause
                              Jesús, how are they this bad and spending this much money?
                              Free Agency gone bad. They got aggressive and it didn't work out for them.
                              Huh? aggressive free agency? No. They have over 5mil in cap right now. they released pace and holt in the offseason. they had too many aging veterans with high salaries.

                              the team got old. the only free agent veteran with a high salary charge is Will Witherspoon.

                              Steven Jackson is over 12 mil, bulger is over 7 mil., chris long is over 8 mil, even their kicker (who I guess was a free agent) is over 5mil...

                              too many older players, but their cap is OK. Jacksons contract is just too new with too high of a cap hit. that's all.
                              Yup. S. Jackson isn't a dream he's a mirage.
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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Brandon494
                                Its really no point of talking about this, this trade is not going to happen along with any other trade involving the Packers. Ryan Grant is not a top RB in the league but he is better than some give him credit for. Our line is horrible and the zone blocking scheme is a joke. MM is also very predictable when he does run the ball and gives up on it way too easily.
                                I agree with everyone you wrote there Brandon. But the top reason this WON'T happen is cause Joe Arrigo said it would. Joe Arrigo is kinda the inside joke that the Chuck Norris thing became as a phenomenom on the Internet. Joe tells you something....good as gold it's fabricated or loosey-goosey BS.

                                Joe Arrigo: I have inside sources that tell me that Brandon's real name is Fred Smith.
                                Brandon: Here's my birth certificate bitch. My name has always been Brandon.
                                Joe Arrigo: (no comment).......................(jumps to new website to spread his fake rumors and fan base).
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