The Good, The Bad and the Ugly

[Little Whiskey]

loved it when moose said at the begining of the game, that since cliffy is back at his normal position and everyone is back to their normal positions we should see better line play. EEERRRRRRRRRR!!! wrong. this offensive line, is truely offensive. I don't think he has watched a packer game this season. I was thinking that maybe someone tried to brief him about last week's game just so he could say something.

[BallHawk]

if they played the same game vs an average team....we lose.

If we had played against an average team I assure you our game plan would have been a lot different. You can't take our actions from this game and assume we would have played the same against any other team.

[channtheman]

if they played the same game vs an average team....we lose.

If we had played against an average team I assure you are game plan would have been a lot different. You can't take our actions from this game and assume we would have played the same against any other team.

I think he's saying if we had 13 penalties and numerous red zone opportunities lost and we were playing say the Vikings or the Bears, we would lose, and I agree. At some point the penalties are going to screw you. At some point kicking field goals instead of TD's is going to screw you. If we play like that against a good team, we will lose, and so far we have.

[red]

another thing that seems to be a staple of the m3 era is too many redzone fg's and not nearly enough td's

its like mike doesn't know fg's are a bad thing. it means you failed to get a td

[Packers4Glory]

if they played the same game vs an average team....we lose.

If we had played against an average team I assure you are game plan would have been a lot different. You can't take our actions from this game and assume we would have played the same against any other team.

I think he's saying if we had 13 penalties and numerous red zone opportunities lost and we were playing say the Vikings or the Bears, we would lose, and I agree. At some point the penalties are going to screw you. At some point kicking field goals instead of TD's is going to screw you. If we play like that against a good team, we will lose, and so far we have.

bingo.

not to mention we all know what happens when we play a defense w/ some healthy and decent lineman. I mean we only gave up 5 sacks today vs a team playing its back ups and an O-lineman on their D line.

sacks + penalties = epic fail

[Brandon494]

I was upset with the penalties and still the lack of pass protection even though Lions were missing two starters. I mean Clifton had 4 penatlies alone.

[Brandon494]

On a positive note the defense look a lot better when bigby in the lineup.

[Fred's Slacks]

my positives: Matthews, Finely and Kampman from a 4 point stance.

[channtheman]

my positives: Matthews, Finely and Kampman from a 4 point stance.

Agree 100% Especially Kampy.

[Partial]

How often did you guys see him with his hands in the dirt? I saw him once or twice but I barely watched the game.

[channtheman]

How often did you guys see him with his hands in the dirt? I saw him once or twice but I barely watched the game.

I kinda fast forwarded through the game but I can recall specifically one instance where he was in a 4 point stance and either got good pressure or a sack out of it.

[denverYooper]

Good:
They won! This is a game they were supposed to win and they did.

Pretty good game by the Defense. Matthews is freaky fast; I think his name will start appearing in DROY conversations at some point. They looked more aggressive today as a unit, also. I know that the lions were minus some key players on offense , but pitching a shutout and allowing only 149 yards is still pretty good.

Crosby made all of his FGAs. 4/4.

Driver had a nice game again, broke the Pack's record, broke 600, and had another of those 1-handed catches.

Bad:
They sure as shit shoot themselves in the foot a lot with stupid penalties.

Pressure.

Ugly:
The O's redzone play right now is spotty at best. They need to kill it.

Some of the sacks are funny looking. Rodgers doesn't exactly get blasted, he just kinda sits down. It reminds me of a skier who sits down when they start wobbling a bit, rather than chance a more serious spill. He takes quite a few very low contact sacks. I suppose they're good for keeping him relatively unharmed, but are ugly.

[Deputy Nutz]

How many god damn field goals can you kick?


Ryan Grant should not be a starting running back in the NFL. The offensive line in the first half did a decent job at sustaining their blocks. To many times a safety is coming up and making the play before Grant gets to the second level. He is just too slow behind the line of scrimmage.

Sloppy play on offensive. If there is a way for Rodgers to get sacked, the Packers surely find them.

The good, well they beat the Lions, beat them without scoring a touchdown after the first quarter. Shut them out, good for the defense.

[The Leaper]

Ryan Grant should not be a starting running back in the NFL.

I completely agree. If I remember correctly, he got caught from behind on his 20 yard run in the 4Q by a guy with a 90-something number on his jersey. It is unacceptable to be as slow as Grant is and unable to catch the rock. He's virtually useless in our offense. We need a back who is a threat out of the backfield as a receiver considering our sieve of an OL.

[Partial]

I was watching the Denver game last week, and Moreno would look really good in G&G. That cat can run and catch. Reminds me of Westbrook.