Seriously WTF?

[Deputy Nutz]

There are some people I think that are a detriment to the site. I think the Favre situation has made things worse. However, I don't see it all that much different than before. I think it's natural for a forum to grow stale over time--like relationships, jobs, video games, whatever. This site has grown a bit stale. More than anything, we need a good finish to this season. I think that would cure a lot of what ails the site. Then, we'd have less focus on Thompson vs. Favre.

I love you Harvey, you are just so shy. I need to get you back on the dance floor with 2 dozen sexy asian chicks again.

[Deputy Nutz]

Goddamn if people try to go out and prove Partial's point.

Why the hell do names have to be dragged through the mud? I never mentioned anyone in my posts in this thread other to say positive things about them, such as when I called Mad a cocksucker.

anyways, I like Favre, big deal. I won't sit here and disparage Rodgers, or any other Packer player because of my feelings about Favre and Green Bay Packers. I will call it like I see it and I am happy to be in that position. I have a lot less grief in my life.

anyways, some need to relax.

Ignore.

Take me for instance, I really want to threaten a certain poster right, now. I dislike him that much. I want to challenge him to a fistacuffs, but I have decided to use some restrain. Also I would like to say nasty things about his mother, but again I will refrain and demonstrate my discipline and control. Being the better person is whats important.

Listen...you barely beat me in Fantasy Football this week and I know I intimidated you and you fear me...but why do you want to drag my mother into it?

Maybe you should have let your mother draft your team.

[Brando19]

Goddamn if people try to go out and prove Partial's point.

Why the hell do names have to be dragged through the mud? I never mentioned anyone in my posts in this thread other to say positive things about them, such as when I called Mad a cocksucker.

anyways, I like Favre, big deal. I won't sit here and disparage Rodgers, or any other Packer player because of my feelings about Favre and Green Bay Packers. I will call it like I see it and I am happy to be in that position. I have a lot less grief in my life.

anyways, some need to relax.

Ignore.

Take me for instance, I really want to threaten a certain poster right, now. I dislike him that much. I want to challenge him to a fistacuffs, but I have decided to use some restrain. Also I would like to say nasty things about his mother, but again I will refrain and demonstrate my discipline and control. Being the better person is whats important.

Listen...you barely beat me in Fantasy Football this week and I know I intimidated you and you fear me...but why do you want to drag my mother into it?

Maybe you should have let your mother draft your team.

She did...goes to show it doesn't take much to hang with you....ball sniffer.

[SkinBasket]

I don't think I was talking to you in any of those respones yet you had to come in with your "jackass response" because you didnt agree what I was saying about Hawk. Get over yourself, your doing exactly what your bitching about.

You aren't talking to anyone. You're posting on an internet forum. You're going to get responses you don't like. Most people can deal with that without blowing up a federal building or posting a masturbating emoticon.

Maybe part of the problem is there isn't a sticky post explaining the difference between real life and the internet. Between reality and fantasy. Just like McDonald's had to tell people coffee is hot, maybe this forum needs to be just as condescendingly overly obvious.

[Brandon494]

I don't think I was talking to you in any of those respones yet you had to come in with your "jackass response" because you didnt agree what I was saying about Hawk. Get over yourself, your doing exactly what your bitching about.

You aren't talking to anyone. You're posting on an internet forum. You're going to get responses you don't like. Most people can deal with that without blowing up a federal building or posting a masturbating emoticon.

Maybe part of the problem is there isn't a sticky post explaining the difference between real life and the internet. Between reality and fantasy. Just like McDonald's had to tell people coffee is hot, maybe this forum needs to be just as condescendingly overly obvious.

Thanks for explaining that to me and for that I give you......

[Packers4Ever]

Great. We know how to bitch about it. So what are we gonna DO about it? (cause if we don't do something, we're gonna completely kill this forum.)

Nahhh. it's all going to take care of itself, MJ, although I absolutely agree with gbgary about it being Brett's fault. But just wait and see. after this weekend, this game will be behind us. We've had 6-7 weeks to see it coming closer and closer, when it's past there'll be other things to be concerned about and other games.

Got a whole lot ahead yet.....

[retailguy]

Goddamn if people try to go out and prove Partial's point.

Why the hell do names have to be dragged through the mud? I never mentioned anyone in my posts in this thread other to say positive things about them, such as when I called Mad a cocksucker.

anyways, I like Favre, big deal. I won't sit here and disparage Rodgers, or any other Packer player because of my feelings about Favre and Green Bay Packers. I will call it like I see it and I am happy to be in that position. I have a lot less grief in my life.

anyways, some need to relax.

Ignore.

Take me for instance, I really want to threaten a certain poster right, now. I dislike him that much. I want to challenge him to a fistacuffs, but I have decided to use some restrain. Also I would like to say nasty things about his mother, but again I will refrain and demonstrate my discipline and control. Being the better person is whats important.

Well done, Nutz.

I don't understand why this thread had to get personal. But from my vantage point, that's really the issue.

So many people want to "tell" others how it is. Not enough want to learn. If I had a dollar for each thing I learned from KYPack, Patler and Harvey, I'd be a very rich man. Are there some folks here who don't know squat, but think they do? Of course. So, what.

In all the bs, sometimes you find a chunk of gold or a diamond. A few folks here make me think. And there are a couple that do free google research for me.... A positive in everything, I think. :P

I don't think the forum is falling apart. Though, I do hope we can get back to football ANALYSIS and opinion talk. Everyone's opinions are soundly criticized right now. On both sides.

[GrnBay007]

www.packerchatters.com
www.p@ckeraddict.com




I just realized paranoid Madtown made it so you couldn't type www.p@ckeraddict.com.

Fuck you. That is because those fucks felt it was their right to tag this place up with that shit. See unlike your bandwagon jumping ass I only gave a fuck and still do in some ways about this forum alone. You on the other hand do nothing that is positive for it any more. You put those shit links up just as easily as you talked shit about this place on the new jso. For that alone you should get whacked.

You are nothing but a fucking bitch IMO. Yes you will come quick with a snappy comeback. So fucking what, the truth is you dont really give a fuck about this place. If you had any loyalty you would take that shit down.

I got a 6 fuck response. Top that Skinbasket!

You comment about the "paranoid" behavior of Mad but maybe you don't know the full story behind all that. That was a long time ago...and you might not think it was so paranoid.

As far as the angry "fuck" response goes, maybe you should remember what your behavior was when you were angry? ....those that live in glass houses.....

[GrnBay007]

Goddamn if people try to go out and prove Partial's point.

Why the hell do names have to be dragged through the mud?

anyways, I like Favre, big deal. I won't sit here and disparage Rodgers, or any other Packer player because of my feelings about Favre and Green Bay Packers.

I don't understand why this thread had to get personal.

I have no problem being mentioned with the group JH referred to. Posted with them for many years and as far as I know they are all good people. So if that was an attempt to label certain people or make them look bad, good try.

I think it's funny how some people get so wrapped up in deciding who or who is not a Packer fan based on how they feel about Favre. For the most part we've all been at this or the "other" forum for a long time together. Why not just accept that some people have different views and get along. Joke about it...but don't be mean. It's really not worth it. We wouldn't be here if we weren't Packer fans. Some people just have a different slant on what they believe.

The question was WTF is going on here. IMO personal attacks is one of the main reasons we have lost some people. Really, who wants to post at a site where they state their opinion and they get hammered if they don't believe what the "group" believes.

There are a lot of good, intelligent posters here. Lets go back to having fun (without insult) and not drive anyone else away.

Oh, and Ty....I didn't go to Iowa. I graduated from an IL University. Damn, there is something you were wrong about!!! First time for everything, I guess.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

why? Because there is no way to spin otherwise. You can not claim to be a TEAM fan and then choose to root for a player over the team. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Go ahead and root for Favre, just admit you aren't a packer fan.

Are you rooting for the packers to annihilate the vikings and Favre. Are you hoping that the pack sacks Favre to death, picks him off, and utterly destroy him and the vikes? Cause if you aren't then you aren't a packer fan. Favre isn't favre when he is a viking. He is the oppositions qb. A guy in purple. Favre gets no special allowances for having played here.

If there is part of you that thinks, "it wouldn't be so bad if the packers lost" and bert had a nice game..then you aren't a packer fan.

Their is no way to be fan of Favre/Vikes and GB as each has goals that are mutually exclusive. It really is that simple.

This isn't pee wee soccer in copenhagen where everyone gets apple slices and every kid gets a trophy. When favre succeeds it hurts us.

[GrnBay007]

why? Because there is no way to spin otherwise. You can not claim to be a TEAM fan and then choose to root for a player over the team. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Go ahead and root for Favre, just admit you aren't a packer fan.

Are you rooting for the packers to annihilate the vikings and Favre. Are you hoping that the pack sacks Favre to death, picks him off, and utterly destroy him and the vikes? Cause if you aren't then you aren't a packer fan. Favre isn't favre when he is a viking. He is the oppositions qb. A guy in purple. Favre gets no special allowances for having played here.

If there is part of you that thinks, "it wouldn't be so bad if the packers lost" and bert had a nice game..then you aren't a packer fan.

Their is no way to be fan of Favre/Vikes and GB as each has goals that are mutually exclusive. It really is that simple.

This isn't pee wee soccer in copenhagen where everyone gets apple slices and every kid gets a trophy. When favre succeeds it hurts us.

See how you freak out over the subject? Something wrong with u, IMO

Funny how you mention I CAN'T be a Packer fan even though I don't hate Favre and hope he does well in his final years. I just got an email from my friend in GB and am getting lined up for tickets on the 50 yard line, row 12. Unfortunately it will be for a cold weather game........like I attended last year (Dec VS Houston). ....You know....when I also followed Favre while he played for the Jets.

I guess you never said. Where did you get this degree in Fanology? You are obviously the expert in deciding who can be a fan of what team. Seriously, just grow up and stop slamming people.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

why? Because there is no way to spin otherwise. You can not claim to be a TEAM fan and then choose to root for a player over the team. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Go ahead and root for Favre, just admit you aren't a packer fan.

Are you rooting for the packers to annihilate the vikings and Favre. Are you hoping that the pack sacks Favre to death, picks him off, and utterly destroy him and the vikes? Cause if you aren't then you aren't a packer fan. Favre isn't favre when he is a viking. He is the oppositions qb. A guy in purple. Favre gets no special allowances for having played here.

If there is part of you that thinks, "it wouldn't be so bad if the packers lost" and bert had a nice game..then you aren't a packer fan.

Their is no way to be fan of Favre/Vikes and GB as each has goals that are mutually exclusive. It really is that simple.

This isn't pee wee soccer in copenhagen where everyone gets apple slices and every kid gets a trophy. When favre succeeds it hurts us.

See how you freak out over the subject? Something wrong with u, IMO

Funny how you mention I CAN'T be a Packer fan even though I don't hate Favre and hope he does well in his final years. I just got an email from my friend in GB and am getting lined up for tickets on the 50 yard line, row 12. Unfortunately it will be for a cold weather game........like I attended last year (Dec VS Houston). ....You know....when I also followed Favre while he played for the Jets.

I guess you never said. Where did you get this degree in Fanology? You are obviously the expert in deciding who can be a fan of what team. Seriously, just grow up and stop slamming people.

who is freaking. merely wrote a post. should is say there is something wrong with you to care so much about how others perceive your fan cred? Seems that way. Why aren't you just secure in the knowledge of your cred.

Are you gonna cheer for Brett? Do you root for Brett do well, then you are rooting against the pack. Simple as that.

Fan is for fanatic. You aren't a fan of the packers. You are a fan of Bert. You are an interested observer of the pack.

You need to accept that you aren't a fan.

Iowa. Ok. Even worse. You went to Ill. You are from iowa or root for them against the badgers. niether is good.

[HowardRoark]

why? Because there is no way to spin otherwise. You can not claim to be a TEAM fan and then choose to root for a player over the team. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Go ahead and root for Favre, just admit you aren't a packer fan.

Are you rooting for the packers to annihilate the vikings and Favre. Are you hoping that the pack sacks Favre to death, picks him off, and utterly destroy him and the vikes? Cause if you aren't then you aren't a packer fan. Favre isn't favre when he is a viking. He is the oppositions qb. A guy in purple. Favre gets no special allowances for having played here.

If there is part of you that thinks, "it wouldn't be so bad if the packers lost" and bert had a nice game..then you aren't a packer fan.

Their is no way to be fan of Favre/Vikes and GB as each has goals that are mutually exclusive. It really is that simple.

This isn't pee wee soccer in copenhagen where everyone gets apple slices and every kid gets a trophy. When favre succeeds it hurts us.

See how you freak out over the subject? Something wrong with u, IMO

Funny how you mention I CAN'T be a Packer fan even though I don't hate Favre and hope he does well in his final years. I just got an email from my friend in GB and am getting lined up for tickets on the 50 yard line, row 12. Unfortunately it will be for a cold weather game........like I attended last year (Dec VS Houston). ....You know....when I also followed Favre while he played for the Jets.

I guess you never said. Where did you get this degree in Fanology? You are obviously the expert in deciding who can be a fan of what team. Seriously, just grow up and stop slamming people.

who is freaking. merely wrote a post. should is say there is something wrong with you to care so much about how others perceive your fan cred? Seems that way. Why aren't you just secure in the knowledge of your cred.

Are you gonna cheer for Brett? Do you root for Brett do well, then you are rooting against the pack. Simple as that.

Fan is for fanatic. You aren't a fan of the packers. You are a fan of Bert. You are an interested observer of the pack.

You need to accept that you aren't a fan.

Iowa. Ok. Even worse. You went to Ill. You are from iowa or root for them against the badgers. niether is good.

[Brandon494]

I agree, a player is not greater than the team no matter how good that player is. Favre is my favorite football player and is the reason I became a Packers fan but I will be damned if Im going to root for him when he is playing for a rival. I didn't like the split last season but I still wished him well when he was playing for the Jets because they really had nothing to do with the Packers. If you are rooting for Favre this year it doesnt mean you arent a Packers fan, it just means you are more a Brett Favre fan than a Packers fan, which I have come to realize there are quite a few out there like that. Seriously, he might be the main reason we don't make the playoffs this season yet some of you still want to cheer his ass because you think its all TT's fault and golden boy Brett can do no wrong.

[pbmax]

Maybe its just me, but I took something else away from Nutz's point than some others. He wasn't trying to respond to the criticism leveled at certain posters. He wasn't defending a group or decrying being put in a group. He was trying to point out that calling people out over petty things like WHY you are a fan (or WHY you dislike a player) simply causes arguments and hard feelings. Its a child's blame game.

There is no point to it other than to start a fight or make yourself feel more righteous. Being a fan is an irrational act in many ways, and shouldn't need to be explained nor defended. And it should go without saying that blaming problems on certain kinds of fans is equally ludicrous. No one takes a fan test to post here. You're accepted here to talk about Packers football (or at least football in general).

Questioning the validity of certain fans should simply stop, as should pointing out the logical flaws of their belief. Or supposed hatred of your favorite player. Despite what posters think, these posts aren't clever and don't win the argument. None of this makes sense or helps.

To give a concrete example, we have a poster who is still in a certain player's corner. Many disagree with this position. Now he may be right, he may be wrong, or he might be just a fan. But that poster knows more about football than 98% of the rest of us (myself included). He could believe in the Tooth Fairy and the Flying Spaghetti Monster for all I care; I want to read his posts and damn anyone who wants to insult, drown out or condemn his posts.