Besides the OL, what is our biggest problem?

[sharpe1027]

Ya know, that game hurt bad. But stepping back a moment, assuming we win next week (it is Tampa Bay), we make it to the half-way point at 5-3, which projects (ya, I'm ignoring who we play..sue me) to 10-6 and just about gurantees a playoff berth.

As frustrating as things have been, this team could really catch fire if their young tackles keep improving (and they are getting better) and Rodgers can feel more comfortable back there.

I feel much more comfortable with our current defense than what we had last year. At least they are vastly improved against the run.

A healthy Finley should help make D-coordinators think twice about blitzing and leaving a LBer or Saftey one-on-one with him.

Call me crazy, but this team can still go either way.

[DonHutson]

Besides the OL, what is the Packers' biggest problem?

Other than the lone gunman, did you have any other critiques of the play Mrs. Lincoln?

[mraynrand]

It seemed like the Vikes started at midfield most of the damn game. That just makes it to easy....

I just about shit when I saw Green running back kicks......that's what it's come to?

two returners injured?

[Pugger]

We have 2 choices right now when it comes to our tackles. Start the kids or start the old guys Cliffy and Tauscher. The old guys might help out right now but if we stick with Barbre and Land and they don't improve we may have to go back to the draft cuz the old guys are just that, getting a little long in the tooth. Unfortunately most decent tackles just aren't made available in FA. Teams cling to these guys because they don't grow on trees.

[rbaloha1]

We have 2 choices right now when it comes to our tackles. Start the kids or start the old guys Cliffy and Tauscher. The old guys might help out right now but if we stick with Barbre and Land and they don't improve we may have to go back to the draft cuz the old guys are just that, getting a little long in the tooth. Unfortunately most decent tackles just aren't made available in FA. Teams cling to these guys because they don't grow on trees.

We need to win now. Play the veterans until they are unable to play anymore.

[MJZiggy]

We have 2 choices right now when it comes to our tackles. Start the kids or start the old guys Cliffy and Tauscher. The old guys might help out right now but if we stick with Barbre and Land and they don't improve we may have to go back to the draft cuz the old guys are just that, getting a little long in the tooth. Unfortunately most decent tackles just aren't made available in FA. Teams cling to these guys because they don't grow on trees.

We need to win now. Play the veterans until they are unable to play anymore.

That could be now. Not that they can't play, but Clifton is always good for a few penalties a game. I don't remember Lang having any and when the poor kid's not going against an all pro he seems to do ok. Use Clifton for support when he struggles and then he doesn't kill himself either. I don't see any reason that it has to be either/or this season, except for continuity's sake.

[Bretsky]

We have 2 choices right now when it comes to our tackles. Start the kids or start the old guys Cliffy and Tauscher. The old guys might help out right now but if we stick with Barbre and Land and they don't improve we may have to go back to the draft cuz the old guys are just that, getting a little long in the tooth. Unfortunately most decent tackles just aren't made available in FA. Teams cling to these guys because they don't grow on trees.

We need to win now. Play the veterans until they are unable to play anymore.

That could be now. Not that they can't play, but Clifton is always good for a few penalties a game. I don't remember Lang having any and when the poor kid's not going against an all pro he seems to do ok. Use Clifton for support when he struggles and then he doesn't kill himself either. I don't see any reason that it has to be either/or this season, except for continuity's sake.

When they are ready I'd be starting Clifton and Tauscher w/o hesitation. I see a lot more long term value in Lang than Barbre

[sharpe1027]

When they are ready I'd be starting Clifton and Tauscher w/o hesitation. I see a lot more long term value in Lang than Barbre

I agree, except I'm not sure Tauscher will ever get there. I think Barbre's made some big strides since his first start, but he started so shitty that the improvement was almost certain.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Bring back Kevin Barry. He just needs one more chance.

[esoxx]

I'm partial to Junius Coston myself.
I don't think he even made a UFL roster.

[Partial]

Not back-up QB. Flynn is a gamer. I think another season or two in QB class and he could be a solid NFL starter, maybe even better than solid because he makes things happen seemingly out of nothing in PS.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/69340727.html

[Guiness]

Not back-up QB. Flynn is a gamer. I think another season or two in QB class and he could be a solid NFL starter, maybe even better than solid because he makes things happen seemingly out of nothing in PS.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/69340727.html

I wonder if we get a 2nd rounder for him, a la Hassalbeck, after a couple season's as a back up?

[Gunakor]

We have 2 choices right now when it comes to our tackles. Start the kids or start the old guys Cliffy and Tauscher. The old guys might help out right now but if we stick with Barbre and Land and they don't improve we may have to go back to the draft cuz the old guys are just that, getting a little long in the tooth. Unfortunately most decent tackles just aren't made available in FA. Teams cling to these guys because they don't grow on trees.

We need to win now. Play the veterans until they are unable to play anymore.

We need to win next year and the year after that too. I'd like to see if the kids are adequate starters long term or if we need to go in another direction. Plus the added game experience could go a long way for guys like Barbre and Lang. I'm thrilled to have guys like Chad Clifton and Mark Tauscher as reliable veteran backups, but IMO that's all either of them are anymore. Backups.

Barbre and Lang may or may not be legitimate starters, but we won't know unless they're on the field game in and game out against different players with different skillsets and different tendencies. Just because Lang got whipped by Allen doesn't mean he's not starting quality. It might just mean that Allen is pretty fucking good himself. I'm all for starting Lang at LT and Barbre at RT for the remainder of the season, barring injury, and evaluating where we're at when the season is over. The division is all but lost at this point anyway. Let the kids play.

[Smidgeon]

The division is all but lost at this point anyway. Let the kids play.

The division is lost only if the Vikings don't collapse (like they've done before) or BF doesn't collapse (like he's done before). Even then, the playoffs aren't lost as a wild card. Not by a long shot.

[MichiganPackerFan]

The division is all but lost at this point anyway. Let the kids play.

The division is lost only if the Vikings don't collapse (like they've done before) or BF doesn't collapse (like he's done before). Even then, the playoffs aren't lost as a wild card. Not by a long shot.

Preach it!!