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  • #16
    Double Dip - Sorry
    "When it's third and ten, you can take the milk drinkers and I'll take the whiskey drinkers every time" Max McGee

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    • #17
      He's just not Packer People material.

      Just think, only another 25 or so more cuts until we have our final roster.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by MJZiggy
        Is anybody surprised?
        I am, he looked okay in flashes last year and certainly would have been a serviceable backup this year.

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        • #19
          He's basically just a body. He was atrocious in 2004 and he was serviceable last year. I don't think this sends a message about anything--other than that the Packers feel they have 2+ better candidates to back up Collins and Manuel in Underwood, Culver, Boger, and Bigby. This tells me that Green Bay would be okay with some combination of those guys, and they felt that it was in their best interests to let Roman go early to try to find a job elsewhere. If they felt he was a big upgrade as a backup over those guys, they wouldn't have cut him. Boger has been the talk of camp. From what I've read it wouldn't be a surprise if Boger and Underwood or Culver make the team at backup safety.
          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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          • #20
            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
            He's basically just a body. He was atrocious in 2004 and he was serviceable last year. I don't think this sends a message about anything--other than that the Packers feel they have 2+ better candidates to back up Collins and Manuel in Underwood, Culver, Boger, and Bigby. This tells me that Green Bay would be okay with some combination of those guys, and they felt that it was in their best interests to let Roman go early to try to find a job elsewhere. If they felt he was a big upgrade as a backup over those guys, they wouldn't have cut him. Boger has been the talk of camp. From what I've read it wouldn't be a surprise if Boger and Underwood or Culver make the team at backup safety.

            Well, I agree with your accessment however despite how they may "feel" about his replacement before a single hit is laid in contact drills, I would think they would keep him as insurance. This isn't a big deal at all but is mildly surprising to me.

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            • #21
              I hate the move. Why not keep him for depth. Manuel has never started a full season, at least roman can say he did that. Plus he only had one year left and he would have played whether he liked it or not. Now all we have for depth is underwood and some other really young guys.


              I really hope we don't have any injury's..............
              Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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              • #22
                Even though Roman's stats were pretty good last year he was lacking in the one stat that's most important in Green Bay now, age. He was a veteran on a team that values youth, therefore he was expendable.

                I'd be very surprised if he was the last veteran we see go before the final roster is set.
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                • #23
                  I see this as a logical move given that, we are re-building and Mark Roman would be offering a tutoring role with OUR young safetys more than anything as he was slated as a back-up.

                  Tossing the young guns into the firey pit.

                  He didn't play all that great (alot of tackles),his age and his disenchantment with T2 (M.Manuel) were all factors here, and it was time for him to move on.

                  Why wait to cut him loose a day before TC opens? I assume that the man has a LIFE and now that goes into an upheaval. I don't like the timing of this call but it could be worse and three weeks into TC . Nearly 40 men will be cut over the next five weeks or so. Mark Roman will possibly find work elsewhere.

                  We won't miss him.

                  I assume that T2 feels he had little trade value, as well. In fact. Our depth is lacking and we don't have alot that any team would come calling for.
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                  • #24
                    he lasted about 1 year longer then i thought he would.

                    its a good move, we've seen the best roman had to offer, and it was average at best. this gives the other guys a shot to see what they can do.

                    the coaches obviously think that manuel or underwood, or atari, or the towel boy has more to offer the roman did

                    this cut is a good thing, we got rid of another player whose mouth thought he was better then he really was

                    we'll live, its not like we just cut collins or hawk, or even favre. this guy was a career backup who fell ass backwards into a starting role that he never should have had. he was by far the weakest member of our secondary on paper going into TC (starting wise)

                    now we can move on and hopefully find a real starter

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by PaCkFan_n_MD
                      I hate the move. Why not keep him for depth. Manuel has never started a full season, at least roman can say he did that. Plus he only had one year left and he would have played whether he liked it or not. Now all we have for depth is underwood and some other really young guys.


                      I really hope we don't have any injury's..............
                      This move had nothing to do with Roman's ability. I believe he is one of the top 53 players as far as talent/experience goes. It doesn't matter. This is a message pure and simple to everybody who shows up tomorrow. There's a new sheriff in town. He needs to get the attention of every rookie, but especially every veteran. MM and TT are basically saying, anybody who thinks they are above the interests of the team can get the he!! out of Dodge (especially mediocre players like Roman).

                      TT & MM made a small calculated risk that this move will be a net positive in how the 90-some players compete over the next 30 days. Roman was a sacrificial lamb. Good luck Mark, and good bye. Somebody had to play the fall guy and this year it was you.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by red
                        he lasted about 1 year longer then i thought he would.

                        its a good move, we've seen the best roman had to offer, and it was average at best. this gives the other guys a shot to see what they can do.

                        the coaches obviously think that manuel or underwood, or atari, or the towel boy has more to offer the roman did

                        this cut is a good thing, we got rid of another player whose mouth thought he was better then he really was

                        we'll live, its not like we just cut collins or hawk, or even favre. this guy was a career backup who fell ass backwards into a starting role that he never should have had. he was by far the weakest member of our secondary on paper going into TC (starting wise)

                        now we can move on and hopefully find a real starter
                        Red, I think Roman should sue.

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                        • #27
                          " Red, I think Roman should sue. " retailguy

                          Do what to sue?
                          ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                          ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                          ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                          ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Willard
                            Originally posted by PaCkFan_n_MD
                            I hate the move. Why not keep him for depth. Manuel has never started a full season, at least roman can say he did that. Plus he only had one year left and he would have played whether he liked it or not. Now all we have for depth is underwood and some other really young guys.


                            I really hope we don't have any injury's..............
                            This move had nothing to do with Roman's ability. I believe he is one of the top 53 players as far as talent/experience goes. It doesn't matter. This is a message pure and simple to everybody who shows up tomorrow. There's a new sheriff in town. He needs to get the attention of every rookie, but especially every veteran. MM and TT are basically saying, anybody who thinks they are above the interests of the team can get the he!! out of Dodge (especially mediocre players like Roman).

                            TT & MM made a small calculated risk that this move will be a net positive in how the 90-some players compete over the next 30 days. Roman was a sacrificial lamb. Good luck Mark, and good bye. Somebody had to play the fall guy and this year it was you.

                            A good take Willard...(as HH already mentioned, Willard was cool before being a rat was cool)....I'd have still kept him on but you could be right.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Rastak
                              Originally posted by Willard
                              Originally posted by PaCkFan_n_MD
                              I hate the move. Why not keep him for depth. Manuel has never started a full season, at least roman can say he did that. Plus he only had one year left and he would have played whether he liked it or not. Now all we have for depth is underwood and some other really young guys.


                              I really hope we don't have any injury's..............
                              This move had nothing to do with Roman's ability. I believe he is one of the top 53 players as far as talent/experience goes. It doesn't matter. This is a message pure and simple to everybody who shows up tomorrow. There's a new sheriff in town. He needs to get the attention of every rookie, but especially every veteran. MM and TT are basically saying, anybody who thinks they are above the interests of the team can get the he!! out of Dodge (especially mediocre players like Roman).

                              TT & MM made a small calculated risk that this move will be a net positive in how the 90-some players compete over the next 30 days. Roman was a sacrificial lamb. Good luck Mark, and good bye. Somebody had to play the fall guy and this year it was you.

                              A good take Willard...(as HH already mentioned, Willard was cool before being a rat was cool)....I'd have still kept him on but you could be right.
                              I disagree, I think this sends the wrong message. He bitched that he didnt want to be team, so they basically gave he him what he wanted. As the team did with Walker and Mckenzie. I am not liking the trend that is going on here. To send a strong message you make the guy play wether he likes it or not. Thats what I would do at least if I was GM.
                              Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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                              • #30
                                Hmm, this was sure a surprise. I gotta agree that Roman was a servicable backup. Other then going with the youth movement there was really no reason that at least the public knew about. Must be more to the story.

                                Can anyone say "Enter, Tyrone Culver"?

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