Roman cut

[Willard]

Maryland,

I understand your take. It is a concern if players think they can simply bitch enough that they will get tossed off the team. I hope this is not an emerging trend. It would be good if the Pack could lay down the law as you suggest. But there is another concern for this new administration.

MM is in a precarious position being a rookie HC with a questionable resume. He needs to know that the team will get behind his system even though things are not always going to go smoothly. He simply can't afford to keep somebody in the locker room who may be looking for the first sign that the new system is flawed so he can release his poison on the rest of the team. I am only speculating that Roman is that type of man, but it seems to me that it was a concern for MM & TT.

I think one of the most interesting dynamics to watch for this season is how the players rally around MM and his system even when the chips are down. This is especially true of Favre. Will he embrace MM's version of the WCO through adversity or will he fall into his risky style of play exhibited last year?

This was a great lesson in the movie Hoosiers. The new coach wants you to make five passes before you shoot the ball. If you don't listen, you have to sit on the end of the bench even if you are the best player on the team. Does MM have the leadership ability to pull this off? We will soon find out.

[The Shadow]

I would at least give Kurt Campbell a look at backup strong safety. He is supposed to have very solid cover skills - and a LB/SS hybrid used occasionally in the box couldn't hurt, right?
A fast, hard-hiiter who could address 2 positions would be quite nice.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Maryland,

I understand your take. It is a concern if players think they can simply bitch enough that they will get tossed off the team. I hope this is not an emerging trend. It would be good if the Pack could lay down the law as you suggest. But there is another concern for this new administration.

MM is in a precarious position being a rookie HC with a questionable resume. He needs to know that the team will get behind his system even though things are not always going to go smoothly. He simply can't afford to keep somebody in the locker room who may be looking for the first sign that the new system is flawed so he can release his poison on the rest of the team. I am only speculating that Roman is that type of man, but it seems to me that it was a concern for MM & TT.

I think one of the most interesting dynamics to watch for this season is how the players rally around MM and his system even when the chips are down. This is especially true of Favre. Will he embrace MM's version of the WCO through adversity or will he fall into his risky style of play exhibited last year?

This was a great lesson in the movie Hoosiers. The new coach wants you to make five passes before you shoot the ball. If you don't listen, you have to sit on the end of the bench even if you are the best player on the team. Does MM have the leadership ability to pull this off? We will soon find out.

Well, you do have a good piont about the new administration.

But then when is it going to happen? When are the packers finally going to go through a season or two without a holout? The packers got to sometime start putting their foot down and laying down the law or we better just start waiting for the holdout every year.

[Patler]

This is no surprise at all. As of a weak ago GB was something like 8 players over the limit for the first day of training camp. They have a lot of young DBs, they should be able to find a young guy with a possible up side to him to keep.

Besides, your two backup safeties almost HAVE to be good special teams guys. In fact, a lot of backup safeties are on teams only because of their special teams play, and the team is in a world of hurt if they actually have to play much in the regular defense. I'm not sure if Roman was that kind of guy.

Another factor...the game day roster often has only 3 safeties dressing. If Manual and Collins start, Underwood dresses because he was the leading ST tackler last year. How content would Roman be, last year's starter, not even dressing this year? That's a spot for a young guy.

Good chance for younger guys to show what they have.

[Willard]

Well, you do have a good piont about the new administration.

But then when is it going to happen? When are the packers finally going to go through a season or two without a holout? The packers got to sometime start putting their foot down and laying down the law or we better just start waiting for the holdout every year.

I am afraid we have entered a sickening new era where we will see this every year. Teams will evolve, and contracts will be restructured to try to discourage this kind of thing. One change this year is the increase in fines allowed for missing training camp if you are under contract. Some teams will find innovative ways to protect themselves. Until then the fans get the shaft.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

"Teams will evolve, and contracts will be restructured to try to discourage this kind of thing"

Can't wait

[Deputy Nutz]

Roman got cut because everyone realized that there are ten other players just like him on the waiver wire right now. He was no Darren Sharper, I am certainly not going to lose any sleep over this move. I have always had faith in Underwood. He is a big time hitter, and he unlike Roman would be happy to compete on special teams. Your backups have to be able to not only contribute on special teams, but excel and dominate that phase of the game. I would rather have younger and more energized players than an old stoodge like Roman.

[Patler]

Roman got cut because everyone realized that there are ten other players just like him on the waiver wire right now. He was no Darren Sharper, I am certainly not going to lose any sleep over this move. I have always had faith in Underwood. He is a big time hitter, and he unlike Roman would be happy to compete on special teams. Your backups have to be able to not only contribute on special teams, but excel and dominate that phase of the game. I would rather have younger and more energized players than an old stoodge like Roman.

gee Nutz, has one of us had an epiphany? We seem to be agreeing on everything tonight!

[Harlan Huckleby]

ya, I agree guys like Roman show-up on waivers. But Roman is one of the better rejects who will find a roster spot somewhere.

I wonder what Roman thinks about getting cut. Given the timing, it is not a bad deal for him.

[Deputy Nutz]

Roman got cut because everyone realized that there are ten other players just like him on the waiver wire right now. He was no Darren Sharper, I am certainly not going to lose any sleep over this move. I have always had faith in Underwood. He is a big time hitter, and he unlike Roman would be happy to compete on special teams. Your backups have to be able to not only contribute on special teams, but excel and dominate that phase of the game. I would rather have younger and more energized players than an old stoodge like Roman.

gee Nutz, has one of us had an epiphany? We seem to be agreeing on everything tonight!

Why don't we always agree?

[SD GB fan]

i think he got cut BEFORE TC cos we have a shit load of DBs. something told me that TT was more interested in competition between younger guys than hearing roman complain about losing his starter spot.

[MJZiggy]

I'm confused. Roman got dumped. He didn't force his way out of town, and last I heard from him he was vowing to earn his starting spot back. There is no holdout here. Coach said today that he's not expecting anyone to be missing camp tomorrow that's not PUP. The only drama here was Harris and he's decided that he'll be a good boy and show up.

[Patler]

gee Nutz, has one of us had an epiphany? We seem to be agreeing on everything tonight!

Why don't we always agree?

So then, we agree to agree?

[woodbuck27]

I'm confused. Roman got dumped. He didn't force his way out of town, and last I heard from him he was vowing to earn his starting spot back. There is no holdout here. Coach said today that he's not expecting anyone to be missing camp tomorrow that's not PUP. The only drama here was Harris and he's decided that he'll be a good boy and show up.

Smell that Ziggy ?

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'm confused. Roman got dumped. He didn't force his way out of town,

It's hard to interpret the things Roman said, what was sincere and what was damage control. Roman is certainly better than some of the safeties in training camp. I think the team decided they didn't want him on the squad, he wouldn't be happy as a role player. And Roman is probably happy about the chance to play on another team.