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**rbaloha1** · 11-02-2009, 10:03 PM

Agree with Jenkin's comments. Dom is too dogmatic with his scheme rather than emphasizing player's strengths.

1. Blitzes are too predictable. #4 was pointing-out where the blitzes were coming from along with the vacated areas.

2. Harris. Woodson and Williams need to be in press coverage more of the time. Try some corner blitzes from the qb's blind side.

3. More stunting and elaborate blitzes.

Agree with others that MM is handcuffing DC. MM often chokes in big games recently and plays "not to lose" which is reflected in the team's play.

**Tyrone Bigguns** · 11-02-2009, 10:20 PM

Ty loves it when fans now think they more than celebrated defensive wizards. Shit is priceless.

**rbaloha1** · 11-02-2009, 10:41 PM

Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

Ty loves it when fans now think they more than celebrated defensive wizards. Shit is priceless.

Why has the wizard provided BF with 7 tds, consistently beat on blitzes and called out by his own players?

**Bretsky** · 11-02-2009, 11:06 PM

Because Minnesota is just better

**pbmax** · 11-02-2009, 11:18 PM

Originally posted by rbaloha

1. Blitzes are too predictable. #4 was pointing-out where the blitzes were coming from along with the vacated areas.

He was not pointing out the blitz. That is the QB calling the Mike (MLB) so the O line can count out their pass protection responsibilities. If he gestures after that, it when another player comes up or peeks to the backfield. Half of these are decoys.

2. Harris. Woodson and Williams need to be in press coverage more of the time. Try some corner blitzes from the qb's blind side.

We pressed a lot in the 2nd half. 21 points yielded.

Agree with others that MM is handcuffing DC. MM often chokes in big games recently and plays "not to lose" which is reflected in the team's play.

There is nothing to base this on. The Packers have played good D and have had trouble with a very good O. That is pretty par for the course. In fact, if anything, we are ahead of the curve in switching schemes. Its the offense that has failed to progress or be consistent.

**rbaloha1** · 11-02-2009, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by pbmax

Originally posted by rbaloha

1. Blitzes are too predictable. #4 was pointing-out where the blitzes were coming from along with the vacated areas.

He was not pointing out the blitz. That is the QB calling the Mike (MLB) so the O line can count out their pass protection responsibilities. If he gestures after that, it when another player comes up or peeks to the backfield. Half of these are decoys.

2. Harris. Woodson and Williams need to be in press coverage more of the time. Try some corner blitzes from the qb's blind side.

We pressed a lot in the 2nd half. 21 points yielded.

Agree with others that MM is handcuffing DC. MM often chokes in big games recently and plays "not to lose" which is reflected in the team's play.

There is nothing to base this on. The Packers have played good D and have had trouble with a very good O. That is pretty par for the course. In fact, if anything, we are ahead of the curve in switching schemes. Its the offense that has failed to progress or be consistent.

1. Al Harris disagrees with you.

2. Not as much as we should. Press coverage produced more incompletes than cover 2.

3. Yes, its speculation. Sure strange that previous Caper defenses had more exotic blitzes. As the Jimmy Johnson mentioned the Packer D got a false sense of security against pathetic offenses. 0-3 against good offenses.

**Tyrone Bigguns** · 11-02-2009, 11:39 PM

Originally posted by rbaloha

Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

Ty loves it when fans now think they more than celebrated defensive wizards. Shit is priceless.

Why has the wizard provided BF with 7 tds, consistently beat on blitzes and called out by his own players?

Do you honestly think it is fair to judge DC and the team based on a half a season? Did you not read the COUNTLESS articles talking about time to adjust to the new scheme.

P.S. Even Wizards have bad days. Doesn't mean fans know more than them.

**Tyrone Bigguns** · 11-02-2009, 11:45 PM

Originally posted by rbaloha

Originally posted by pbmax

Originally posted by rbaloha

1. Blitzes are too predictable. #4 was pointing-out where the blitzes were coming from along with the vacated areas.

He was not pointing out the blitz. That is the QB calling the Mike (MLB) so the O line can count out their pass protection responsibilities. If he gestures after that, it when another player comes up or peeks to the backfield. Half of these are decoys.

2. Harris. Woodson and Williams need to be in press coverage more of the time. Try some corner blitzes from the qb's blind side.

We pressed a lot in the 2nd half. 21 points yielded.

Agree with others that MM is handcuffing DC. MM often chokes in big games recently and plays "not to lose" which is reflected in the team's play.

There is nothing to base this on. The Packers have played good D and have had trouble with a very good O. That is pretty par for the course. In fact, if anything, we are ahead of the curve in switching schemes. Its the offense that has failed to progress or be consistent.

1. Al Harris disagrees with you.

2. Not as much as we should. Press coverage produced more incompletes than cover 2.

3. Yes, its speculation. Sure strange that previous Caper defenses had more exotic blitzes. As the Jimmy Johnson mentioned the Packer D got a false sense of security against pathetic offenses. 0-3 against good offenses.

1. Al Harris is a player. He doesn't see the whole pic. But, post the quote that he disagrees with PB.

2. SUBJECTIVE. Again, you know more than the coach. Please post the facts. Like to see them.

3. Strange. It may be. But, it doesn't give your point any more validity..or the ramblings of JJ. He is paid to pontificate. He does that. Doesn't mean he is accurate though. Perhaps we blitzed less because the players still don't have the schemes down, because we are just now getting our SET lineup in...Matthews, Raji and Atari, maybe we blitzed less because of SHORT FIELD, and lastly, maybe we have less exotic blitzes cause our players won't do well in them. What is the point of blitzing if it doesn't work? Blitzing for blitzing sake seems asinine.

**mraynrand** · 11-02-2009, 11:48 PM

The 49ers blitzed against the Vikings in the first half o their game and then backed off later because they were getting scorched. Did better in the second half of that game rushing four. Teams are successful when they can generate pressure with their front four (or whatever non-blitz combination). It comes down to talent.

**rbaloha1** · 11-03-2009, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

Originally posted by rbaloha

Originally posted by Tyrone Bigguns

Ty loves it when fans now think they more than celebrated defensive wizards. Shit is priceless.

Why has the wizard provided BF with 7 tds, consistently beat on blitzes and called out by his own players?

Do you honestly think it is fair to judge DC and the team based on a half a season? Did you not read the COUNTLESS articles talking about time to adjust to the new scheme.

P.S. Even Wizards have bad days. Doesn't mean fans know more than them.

The wizard is ranked #21 if you remove the Browns and Lions. Know one is making any claims. Just making observations.

P.S. Why does the wizard have bad days against good teams but good days against bad teams?

**rbaloha1** · 11-03-2009, 10:11 AM

To: The Wizard

From: Leroy Butler

Subject: Open Letter to Dom Capers

You have to find out what your players are good at and let them do that. Otherwise, you're going to have a bunch of robots or system guys. Both corners are bump-and-run guys, they're not used to playing off. It just kind of hinders you when you're playing within the system and the system doesn't fit.

**sharpe1027** · 11-03-2009, 10:24 AM

Starting drives in the redzone, or damn near, really helps an offense put points on the board. Shore up the special teams please.

**denverYooper** · 11-03-2009, 10:55 AM

Originally posted by sharpe1027

Starting drives in the redzone, or damn near, really helps an offense put points on the board. Shore up the special teams please.

Hell Yes.

**denverYooper** · 11-03-2009, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by rbaloha

To: The Wizard

From: Leroy Butler

Subject: Open Letter to Dom Capers

You have to find out what your players are good at and let them do that. Otherwise, you're going to have a bunch of robots or system guys. Both corners are bump-and-run guys, they're not used to playing off. It just kind of hinders you when you're playing within the system and the system doesn't fit.

I can play the "exclude information that doesn't agree with my viewpoint" game too! Watch, as I take information from the same paragraph and shift blame:

From: Leroy Butler

Subject: Open Letter to the Green Bay Packers Defense

I made all-pro with three or different coordinators. It didn't matter what system it was, I made it work. So, on the one hand, you have that, too. As players you have to win the one-on-one matchups. You have to win. It's a team sport, but it's one person in that helmet. Go make a play. As players, I know it's easy for us to blame the system and for coaches it's easy to blame the players. But ultimately it's up to the players. Coaches don't make players, players make coaches, so you have to go out there and make plays.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Or how about if you just post the LINK TO THE ARTICLE so that people can extract information only pertinent to the way that they choose to frame the debate?

**mraynrand** · 11-03-2009, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by Leroy Butler

As players you have to win the one-on-one matchups.

bottom line

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