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we've been saying this or a while. They didn't even mention Fat Williams and Ben Leiber. And I had forgotten about Shanko and BerryAnn. Vikings want to win now. I don't know what their cash situation is, but one wonders what will happen when there is no cap."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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Rastak would have to confirm this, but I believe they are in pretty good shape. I'm not sure how.Originally posted by mraynrandwe've been saying this or a while. They didn't even mention Fat Williams and Ben Leiber. And I had forgotten about Shanko and BerryAnn. Vikings want to win now. I don't know what their cash situation is, but one wonders what will happen when there is no cap.Go PACK
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When I see the Vikings taking Adrian Peterson, when they already had a 1200 yd rusher(Taylor), while having bigger issues such as one of the worst pass D's in the league the season before, it kinda makes me think what might have been if Green Bay takes Crabtree with two 1000 yd receivers, instead of taking a player to shore up one of the worst run D's in the league. In my opinion, that shows you the biggest difference in how Minnesota builds their team, and Green Bay builds theirs. Minnesota goes for Impact in whichever Direction they go FA, Draft, Trades, and makes a point of have solid lines on both sides of the ball. Green Bay just doesn't seem to, and that to me is why you end up with an average team.
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GB supposedly goes for best player available. The Raji pick was very surprising to me knowing they were moving to the 3-4, especially with the most talented player in the draft sitting there waiting.Originally posted by chain_gangWhen I see the Vikings taking Adrian Peterson, when they already had a 1200 yd rusher(Taylor), while having bigger issues such as one of the worst pass D's in the league the season before, it kinda makes me think what might have been if Green Bay takes Crabtree with two 1000 yd receivers, instead of taking a player to shore up one of the worst run D's in the league. In my opinion, that shows you the biggest difference in how Minnesota builds their team, and Green Bay builds theirs. Minnesota goes for Impact in whichever Direction they go FA, Draft, Trades, and makes a point of have solid lines on both sides of the ball. Green Bay just doesn't seem to, and that to me is why you end up with an average team.
Hard to argue that either would have an impact to this point, but Crabs has done more in significantly less time than Raji. I think anyone would have a very hard time that Raji has been anything but an disappointment so far.
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The Vikings ignored the most important position on the field and now have a competitive team because Brett Favre fell into their laps to band aid the problem. If I were a Viking fan I don't think I'd be pleased with the strategy of leaving a huge void at QB in case a HOFer wants to unretire and take the controls for a year of being football relevant.70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
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Originally posted by 3irty1The Vikings ignored the most important position on the field and now have a competitive team because Brett Favre fell into their laps to band aid the problem. If I were a Viking fan I don't think I'd be pleased with the strategy of leaving a huge void at QB in case a HOFer wants to unretire and take the controls for a year of being football relevant.
Do you think they were trying to leave it as a void? I mean they brought in a QB every years since Chilly's been here, they just missed on the right QB. Chilly thought he drafted his future and he was obviously wrong and at least he had the nuts to move on and grab Brett.
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Originally posted by 3irty1The Vikings ignored the most important position on the field and now have a competitive team because Brett Favre fell into their laps to band aid the problem. If I were a Viking fan I don't think I'd be pleased with the strategy of leaving a huge void at QB in case a HOFer wants to unretire and take the controls for a year of being football relevant.
I guess we would have probably had this same discussion though if Rodgers didn't slip all the way to #24. Yes we took Brohm and Flynn the other year, but the Vikings have taken Jackson, Booty, brought in Sage, and others. They were still a playoff team, without Favre. Who also may make them a legit contender will also help the QB's they have on their current roster. I don't think they ignored it, but yeah if they don't have Favre they're not a legit super bowl contender this year, and they probably don't sweep Green Bay this year.
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By that logic, the Pack tried to fill their voids too, they just missed on the right guys...Originally posted by g4orceDo you think they were trying to leave it as a void? I mean they brought in a QB every years since Chilly's been here, they just missed on the right QB. Chilly thought he drafted his future and he was obviously wrong and at least he had the nuts to move on and grab Brett.
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Woodson, Pickett, maybe Chillar in five years. Not good enough.Originally posted by sharpe1027By that logic, the Pack tried to fill their voids too, they just missed on the right guys...Originally posted by g4orceDo you think they were trying to leave it as a void? I mean they brought in a QB every years since Chilly's been here, they just missed on the right QB. Chilly thought he drafted his future and he was obviously wrong and at least he had the nuts to move on and grab Brett.
"Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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Originally posted by mraynrandWoodson, Pickett, maybe Chillar in five years. Not good enough.Originally posted by sharpe1027By that logic, the Pack tried to fill their voids too, they just missed on the right guys...Originally posted by g4orceDo you think they were trying to leave it as a void? I mean they brought in a QB every years since Chilly's been here, they just missed on the right QB. Chilly thought he drafted his future and he was obviously wrong and at least he had the nuts to move on and grab Brett.
Perfectly said, not good enough. And if we are "trying" to fill our voids as you're saying, then I'll start the fire Ted Thompson banter now as he has failed then.
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Woodson is turning into Favre in the way in his last years in GB. You always heard Favre say that he wants to win now, wants us to go after people, improve the roster.
Woodson is started to grumble a bit this year too. He knows he he has at most 3 really damn good years left at best before he starts to really drop off, so he wants to win now. This roster isn't built to win now. Yeah, we did well in 2007 because we won a lot of games we had no business winning, many times because Favre lifted us off the ground and willed us to win. The defense over performed at times, and we ended up beating teams we should have. Vikings at the dome, chargers, denver, heck even KC who was a bad team we should of lost. Yet, we won them all. In the playoffs... we had a really favorable matchup out the gate. Seattle was worse then we were, it wasn't really cold but it was cold enough to snow, and 30 degree weather, snow falling, lambeau... yeah we win. Next week we played the giants, who were the better club then us at the time.
2007 is one of those anomaly years. A fluke, if you would. We had the right bounces a few times, the defense made a few stops that were uncharacterisitic of them, and our QB produce some Game winning plays. It's pretty telling that since that season, the packers have only beaten two teams that had a winning record going in to the game they played them in.
That's a REALLY telling sign that something just isn't working.
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