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[3irty1]

The Vikings ignored the most important position on the field and now have a competitive team because Brett Favre fell into their laps to band aid the problem. If I were a Viking fan I don't think I'd be pleased with the strategy of leaving a huge void at QB in case a HOFer wants to unretire and take the controls for a year of being football relevant.

I guess we would have probably had this same discussion though if Rodgers didn't slip all the way to #24. Yes we took Brohm and Flynn the other year, but the Vikings have taken Jackson, Booty, brought in Sage, and others. They were still a playoff team, without Favre. Who also may make them a legit contender will also help the QB's they have on their current roster. I don't think they ignored it, but yeah if they don't have Favre they're not a legit super bowl contender this year, and they probably don't sweep Green Bay this year.

Drafting Booty and signing the others isn't a serious effort. The only QB they ever tried to groom was Jackson and he was something of a long shot to begin with. Even when we had a serious QB groomed behind Favre when he left we took out an insurance policy by drafting another top drawer prospect in Brohm. Both Chicago and Detroit may have found franchise QBs in the offseason. The queens are just renting a winner.

[sharpe1027]

Do you think they were trying to leave it as a void? I mean they brought in a QB every years since Chilly's been here, they just missed on the right QB. Chilly thought he drafted his future and he was obviously wrong and at least he had the nuts to move on and grab Brett.

By that logic, the Pack tried to fill their voids too, they just missed on the right guys...

Woodson, Pickett, maybe Chillar in five years. Not good enough.

My comment was about the logic of the above statement, which was based largely upon the Vikings QB draft picks.

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The Vikings ignored the most important position on the field and now have a competitive team because Brett Favre fell into their laps to band aid the problem. If I were a Viking fan I don't think I'd be pleased with the strategy of leaving a huge void at QB in case a HOFer wants to unretire and take the controls for a year of being football relevant.

I guess we would have probably had this same discussion though if Rodgers didn't slip all the way to #24. Yes we took Brohm and Flynn the other year, but the Vikings have taken Jackson, Booty, brought in Sage, and others. They were still a playoff team, without Favre. Who also may make them a legit contender will also help the QB's they have on their current roster. I don't think they ignored it, but yeah if they don't have Favre they're not a legit super bowl contender this year, and they probably don't sweep Green Bay this year.

Drafting Booty and signing the others isn't a serious effort. The only QB they ever tried to groom was Jackson and he was something of a long shot to begin with. Even when we had a serious QB groomed behind Favre when he left we took out an insurance policy by drafting another top drawer prospect in Brohm. Both Chicago and Detroit may have found franchise QBs in the offseason. The queens are just renting a winner.

It's tough to draft one when you're not picking top 1-2. They traded their first rounders for Allen. They found a franchise player in Peterson. Say all three of those picks (1 for Pete, 2 traded for Allen) are top 10. Getting those two players and we'll call one a bust player who was cut for the third pick is incredible.

They won't have a shot at a franchise QB unless they get very lucky and one slips or a college player is vastly overlooked like Brady.

[sharpe1027]

What is so different about this week from a week ago? We lost to a 6-1 team...

The team is 4-3 not 1-6. Granted, the season could go either way but I'm not ready to give up on them this year. It sounds like most posters here already have.

[3irty1]

The Vikings ignored the most important position on the field and now have a competitive team because Brett Favre fell into their laps to band aid the problem. If I were a Viking fan I don't think I'd be pleased with the strategy of leaving a huge void at QB in case a HOFer wants to unretire and take the controls for a year of being football relevant.

I guess we would have probably had this same discussion though if Rodgers didn't slip all the way to #24. Yes we took Brohm and Flynn the other year, but the Vikings have taken Jackson, Booty, brought in Sage, and others. They were still a playoff team, without Favre. Who also may make them a legit contender will also help the QB's they have on their current roster. I don't think they ignored it, but yeah if they don't have Favre they're not a legit super bowl contender this year, and they probably don't sweep Green Bay this year.

Drafting Booty and signing the others isn't a serious effort. The only QB they ever tried to groom was Jackson and he was something of a long shot to begin with. Even when we had a serious QB groomed behind Favre when he left we took out an insurance policy by drafting another top drawer prospect in Brohm. Both Chicago and Detroit may have found franchise QBs in the offseason. The queens are just renting a winner.

It's tough to draft one when you're not picking top 1-2. They traded their first rounders for Allen. They found a franchise player in Peterson. Say all three of those picks (1 for Pete, 2 traded for Allen) are top 10. Getting those two players and we'll call one a bust player who was cut for the third pick is incredible.

They won't have a shot at a franchise QB unless they get very lucky and one slips or a college player is vastly overlooked like Brady.

True, they're not bad enough to get a shot at a Stafford or a Ryan but they will/have had shots at a Flacco. There's not a Flacco every year but they don't even need a Flacco. The dramatic offensive improvement with Favre really just shows how inept the last few years of QBs were.

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The Vikings ignored the most important position on the field and now have a competitive team because Brett Favre fell into their laps to band aid the problem. If I were a Viking fan I don't think I'd be pleased with the strategy of leaving a huge void at QB in case a HOFer wants to unretire and take the controls for a year of being football relevant.

I guess we would have probably had this same discussion though if Rodgers didn't slip all the way to #24. Yes we took Brohm and Flynn the other year, but the Vikings have taken Jackson, Booty, brought in Sage, and others. They were still a playoff team, without Favre. Who also may make them a legit contender will also help the QB's they have on their current roster. I don't think they ignored it, but yeah if they don't have Favre they're not a legit super bowl contender this year, and they probably don't sweep Green Bay this year.

Drafting Booty and signing the others isn't a serious effort. The only QB they ever tried to groom was Jackson and he was something of a long shot to begin with. Even when we had a serious QB groomed behind Favre when he left we took out an insurance policy by drafting another top drawer prospect in Brohm. Both Chicago and Detroit may have found franchise QBs in the offseason. The queens are just renting a winner.

It's tough to draft one when you're not picking top 1-2. They traded their first rounders for Allen. They found a franchise player in Peterson. Say all three of those picks (1 for Pete, 2 traded for Allen) are top 10. Getting those two players and we'll call one a bust player who was cut for the third pick is incredible.

They won't have a shot at a franchise QB unless they get very lucky and one slips or a college player is vastly overlooked like Brady.

True, they're not bad enough to get a shot at a Stafford or a Ryan but they will/have had shots at a Flacco. There's not a Flacco every year but they don't even need a Flacco. The dramatic offensive improvement with Favre really just shows how inept the last few years of QBs were.

Well yeah they went from bottom 5 QB play to top 3.

[Bretsky]

What is so different about this week from a week ago? We lost to a 6-1 team...

The team is 4-3 not 1-6. Granted, the season could go either way but I'm not ready to give up on them this year. It sounds like most posters here already have.

This week we got owned by a QB most in here detest
This week we lost a important divisional game that basically puts us 3 game back and into a wildcard race with other teams very similar to us

This week we all found out we weren't as good as many had thought we were

[ThunderDan]

What is so different about this week from a week ago? We lost to a 6-1 team...

The team is 4-3 not 1-6. Granted, the season could go either way but I'm not ready to give up on them this year. It sounds like most posters here already have.

This week we got owned by a QB most in here detest
This week we lost a important divisional game that basically puts us 3 game back and into a wildcard race with other teams very similar to us

This week we all found out we weren't as good as many had thought we were

Wasn't there a Vikings 2009 are the greatest team ever thread? How are we supposed to compete with that?

I think we are as good as we are.

MINN was a 10-6 team that split with the Pack last year with a crappy QB. How did we not think that they wouldn't improve?

[Bretsky]

What is so different about this week from a week ago? We lost to a 6-1 team...

The team is 4-3 not 1-6. Granted, the season could go either way but I'm not ready to give up on them this year. It sounds like most posters here already have.

This week we got owned by a QB most in here detest
This week we lost a important divisional game that basically puts us 3 game back and into a wildcard race with other teams very similar to us

This week we all found out we weren't as good as many had thought we were

Wasn't there a Vikings 2009 are the greatest team ever thread? How are we supposed to compete with that?

I think we are as good as we are.

MINN was a 10-6 team that split with the Pack last year with a crappy QB. How did we not think that they wouldn't improve?

well, we were the youngest team in the NFL last year so perhaps they would develop more

Who said the Vikings 2009 are the greatest ? I don't think they are the best in the NFC

The article kind of hits home; as fans we expect that our GM, players, and coaches are outperforming theirs.

If we don't then it's our right to question why.

[Iron Mike]

We still have three more SB trophies than they do. :P

[mraynrand]

The Vikings ignored the most important position on the field and now have a competitive team because Brett Favre fell into their laps to band aid the problem. If I were a Viking fan I don't think I'd be pleased with the strategy of leaving a huge void at QB in case a HOFer wants to unretire and take the controls for a year of being football relevant.

I guess we would have probably had this same discussion though if Rodgers didn't slip all the way to #24. Yes we took Brohm and Flynn the other year, but the Vikings have taken Jackson, Booty, brought in Sage, and others. They were still a playoff team, without Favre. Who also may make them a legit contender will also help the QB's they have on their current roster. I don't think they ignored it, but yeah if they don't have Favre they're not a legit super bowl contender this year, and they probably don't sweep Green Bay this year.

Drafting Booty and signing the others isn't a serious effort. The only QB they ever tried to groom was Jackson and he was something of a long shot to begin with. Even when we had a serious QB groomed behind Favre when he left we took out an insurance policy by drafting another top drawer prospect in Brohm. Both Chicago and Detroit may have found franchise QBs in the offseason. The queens are just renting a winner.

It's tough to draft one when you're not picking top 1-2. They traded their first rounders for Allen. They found a franchise player in Peterson. Say all three of those picks (1 for Pete, 2 traded for Allen) are top 10. Getting those two players and we'll call one a bust player who was cut for the third pick is incredible.

They won't have a shot at a franchise QB unless they get very lucky and one slips or a college player is vastly overlooked like Brady.

True, they're not bad enough to get a shot at a Stafford or a Ryan but they will/have had shots at a Flacco. There's not a Flacco every year but they don't even need a Flacco. The dramatic offensive improvement with Favre really just shows how inept the last few years of QBs were.

Well yeah they went from bottom 5 QB play to top 3.

Which QB is playing worse than Favre: Manning, Brady, or Brees?

[Bretsky]

The Vikings ignored the most important position on the field and now have a competitive team because Brett Favre fell into their laps to band aid the problem. If I were a Viking fan I don't think I'd be pleased with the strategy of leaving a huge void at QB in case a HOFer wants to unretire and take the controls for a year of being football relevant.

I guess we would have probably had this same discussion though if Rodgers didn't slip all the way to #24. Yes we took Brohm and Flynn the other year, but the Vikings have taken Jackson, Booty, brought in Sage, and others. They were still a playoff team, without Favre. Who also may make them a legit contender will also help the QB's they have on their current roster. I don't think they ignored it, but yeah if they don't have Favre they're not a legit super bowl contender this year, and they probably don't sweep Green Bay this year.

Drafting Booty and signing the others isn't a serious effort. The only QB they ever tried to groom was Jackson and he was something of a long shot to begin with. Even when we had a serious QB groomed behind Favre when he left we took out an insurance policy by drafting another top drawer prospect in Brohm. Both Chicago and Detroit may have found franchise QBs in the offseason. The queens are just renting a winner.

It's tough to draft one when you're not picking top 1-2. They traded their first rounders for Allen. They found a franchise player in Peterson. Say all three of those picks (1 for Pete, 2 traded for Allen) are top 10. Getting those two players and we'll call one a bust player who was cut for the third pick is incredible.

They won't have a shot at a franchise QB unless they get very lucky and one slips or a college player is vastly overlooked like Brady.

True, they're not bad enough to get a shot at a Stafford or a Ryan but they will/have had shots at a Flacco. There's not a Flacco every year but they don't even need a Flacco. The dramatic offensive improvement with Favre really just shows how inept the last few years of QBs were.

Well yeah they went from bottom 5 QB play to top 3.

Which QB is playing worse than Favre: Manning, Brady, or Brees?

Which ones are playing beter ?

That's not a really off the wall comment up to this point.

I don't expect this to last but Favre has the 3rd best QB rating of the four QB's

[mraynrand]

The Vikings ignored the most important position on the field and now have a competitive team because Brett Favre fell into their laps to band aid the problem. If I were a Viking fan I don't think I'd be pleased with the strategy of leaving a huge void at QB in case a HOFer wants to unretire and take the controls for a year of being football relevant.

I guess we would have probably had this same discussion though if Rodgers didn't slip all the way to #24. Yes we took Brohm and Flynn the other year, but the Vikings have taken Jackson, Booty, brought in Sage, and others. They were still a playoff team, without Favre. Who also may make them a legit contender will also help the QB's they have on their current roster. I don't think they ignored it, but yeah if they don't have Favre they're not a legit super bowl contender this year, and they probably don't sweep Green Bay this year.

Drafting Booty and signing the others isn't a serious effort. The only QB they ever tried to groom was Jackson and he was something of a long shot to begin with. Even when we had a serious QB groomed behind Favre when he left we took out an insurance policy by drafting another top drawer prospect in Brohm. Both Chicago and Detroit may have found franchise QBs in the offseason. The queens are just renting a winner.

It's tough to draft one when you're not picking top 1-2. They traded their first rounders for Allen. They found a franchise player in Peterson. Say all three of those picks (1 for Pete, 2 traded for Allen) are top 10. Getting those two players and we'll call one a bust player who was cut for the third pick is incredible.

They won't have a shot at a franchise QB unless they get very lucky and one slips or a college player is vastly overlooked like Brady.

True, they're not bad enough to get a shot at a Stafford or a Ryan but they will/have had shots at a Flacco. There's not a Flacco every year but they don't even need a Flacco. The dramatic offensive improvement with Favre really just shows how inept the last few years of QBs were.

Well yeah they went from bottom 5 QB play to top 3.

Which QB is playing worse than Favre: Manning, Brady, or Brees?

Which ones are playing beter ?

That's not a really off the wall comment up to this point.

I don't expect this to last but Favre has the 3rd best QB rating of the four QB's

I didn't say it was off the wall. I asked a question. Since you jumped in, are you basing it in QB ratings only? Is that the only criteria we should use? Or perhaps there are other factors to consider?

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The only QB playing better than Favre right now is Manning. And it's close between those two.

Co-MVPs to this point.

[mraynrand]

The only QB playing better than Favre right now is Manning. And it's close between those two.

Co-MVPs to this point.

What do you base that on?