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  • #76
    I'm not sure I want any of the retread coaches.

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    • #77
      I've been on this wagon for a while now. Coach Stubby is useless.

      Check this crazy shit out though. Not sure what to make of it.



      Nov. 8--As Packer coach Mike McCarthy braces for his inevitable firing in the wake of todays last-straw loss to Tampa Bay, it might be a good time to examine the rather curious events that unfolded last year that arguably could present an impediment to McCarthys departure.

      On January 19, 2008, McCarthy received a five year contract extension worth about 3.4 million per year, higher than the league average for head coaches. Now, why would the Doughboy idiot (uh, duh, pad level) get this kind of dough, and this kind of deal???

      Could it be that dysfunction and nepotism was at work, lads and lasses? Well, lets draw ourselves a pint and look into this a bit.

      At the time of the McCarthy Big Bucks Deal, the jiggly-chinned coach was dating Jessica Kress, the ex-wife of William Kress, a Big Bucks, Mega-Influential member of the Packer Board of Directors.

      Flash back to October 20, 2005, when Jessica and William were divorced. Court records show that in the divorce, Jessica was the petitioner, i.e., the party who initiated the divorce.

      Kress is President/CEO of the privately-held Green Bay Packaging, Inc., with annual revenues that are said to be about $350 million.

      Kress hired one of the most prominent divorce lawyers in Wisconsin to defend himself in the divorce from Jessica. Draw your own conclusions as to why. Ka-ching ka-ching, Jessica gonna buy herself some new things.

      Here is where things get interesting. Being an influential Packer board member, Kress would presumably have a say in the decision to retain or fire McCarthy. According to the Packers website, McCarthys wife Jessica and her Packer BOD ex-husband have two boys, ages 8 and 6.

      [See http://www.packers.com/team/coaches/mccarthy_mike/]

      Kress is said to have blustered that if McCarthy is fired, he will object to Jessica leaving the state with the couples two children.

      [See http://www.milwaukeemagazine.com/The...ssageID=23452]

      Obviously, Kress would have a strong motive that his boys continue to reside in Green Bay. No doubt that when the Doughboy is fired, and seeks other employment in the NFL, he will have settle for a B-Level job with an undesirable team, like the Jets.

      Heaven forbid that Jessica would have to take the boys, Wills boys, and follow her fat slob, loser husband McCarthy to Siberia. Would MoneyBags Will Kress let that happen? Would Jessica even want that?

      It will indeed be interesting to see whether Kress will favor firing the Doughboy at this point, or whether he will recuse himself from exerting influence on the issue.


      It is also noteworthy that the role of McCarthy himself regarding the current situation appears to be a bit unsavory. As noted, when he got his Big Buck Deal, McCarthy was doing, I mean, dating, Jessica. Kress.

      Based on the timing of things, and the public record, it would appear that McCarthy basically got the contract extension just days before he knocked up Jessica, leading to a hastily-arranged marriage to her a couple months later. Jessica and the Doughboys child was born on October 22, 2008. Doing the bio-math, Jessica and the Doughboy, um, got frisky on or about January 22, 2008. Then they crossed the Rubicon and got married in Arizona on March 15, 2008.

      So who screwed whom???

      Court records also show that on February 6, 2008, shortly after she became pregnant, Jessica (possibly unaware at that point that she was pregnant), filed in court a petition to change her name (presumably back to her maiden name after the 2005 divorce from the Big Bucks Packer BOD guy, Will Kress).

      Now, had Mike and Jessica been openly engaged at that point, Jessica would not have needed to legally change her name. Indeed, court records show that Jessicas lawyer in the name change case called the court clerk on March 25, 2008 to withdraw the name change petition.

      The clerks docket entry reads: Attorney [for Jessica Kress] called to cancel because the petitioning party got married to Mike McCarthy and doesn't need the name change.

      [See Brown County case no. 2008CV000335, CCAP entry no. 6.]

      So it would appear that Mike and Jessica were not planning on getting married. The marriage was hasty . . .

      McCarthy in early 2008 was supposed to be the respectable head coach of the Packers, whose board of directors just gave him Big Bucks and a huge vote of confidence. He was supposed to be a respectable leader in a family-oriented community.

      He could not comfortably present himself to the Green Bay community as just another douchebag who knocked up his girlfriend. The Packer web site makes a point of McCarthys Irish Catholic upbringing. That plays well to the Green Bay community.

      It would appear that Mike Hump Daddy McCarthy has not been in the right mindset to coach the Packers for some time. It is the height of irresponsibility that the Packer organization gave this fat loser a five year contract extension last year. And it is even more disturbing that a prominent Packer BOD member now has an apparent non-football motive, sown by McCarthy himself, to retain this loser.

      As the clock ticks toward McCarthys firing, look for the TedHoles to continue to defend this piece of garbage coach and grunt like sodomized apes when the he gets his long overdue pink slip.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by MichiganPackerFan
        Originally posted by MJZiggy
        NOT Gruden. He took Tony Dungy's Super Bowl caliber team and turned them into the team we overlooked today.
        I think you're right. Gruden did really well in Oakland and then ran down Dungy's team. At least he had the class to thank Dungy for the team as one of the first thins he said following the SB win. I like the guy, I just
        don't think he's top notch.
        If not for that dumb tuck rule when Tom Brady fumbled the ball yet they ruled it a pass Gruden would have taken the Raiders to the SB as well. Gruden is a good coach and would be an improvement over MM. Gruden is a guy who will get in your face and let you know when you have fucked up which is what we need I believe.

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        • #79
          Did her marriage to Stubby prevent a large settlement payout? Did McCarthy saddle up the team as a favor of sorts?
          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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          • #80
            Originally posted by MadtownPacker
            So who screwed whom???
            Originally posted by Partial
            Dude I just got fucked.
            "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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            • #81
              wow mad

              just wow lol

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              • #82
                Originally posted by mraynrand
                Did her marriage to Stubby prevent a large settlement payout? Did McCarthy saddle up the team as a favor of sorts?
                Sounds like Stubby getting the fat payday kept the ex from having to pay so much alimony and kept the kiddies in WI. Again not sure where this shit came from or how true it is.

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                • #83
                  Keep McCarthy. As our QB coach. Rodgers has developed quite well.

                  Yesterday, the entire team, in all three facets, was standing around, waiting for someone else on the team to do something. Our team looked like one of those poorly programmed football video games from the 90s. Guys running to spots, then stopping. ST tacklers meeting a blocker and standing still. Defenders surrounding a ball carrier, then failing to engage their "tackle routine." And holy fucking christ is Bigby s......l......o......w.

                  People say Rodgers holds onto the ball too long? In some cases, true, but why the fuck can't our "great" WRs get open after 5, 6, 7 seconds? Do we even have a TE anymore? Someone on the team must know what a comeback route or a crossing pattern looks like.

                  McCarthy doesn't know what the fuck is going on out there and it's looking more and more like Favre was the one running the offense his last year. Maybe we can lure Favre back to GB next year with a nice head coaching position.
                  "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by MadtownPacker
                    Originally posted by mraynrand
                    Did her marriage to Stubby prevent a large settlement payout? Did McCarthy saddle up the team as a favor of sorts?
                    Sounds like Stubby getting the fat payday kept the ex from having to pay so much alimony and kept the kiddies in WI. Again not sure where this shit came from or how true it is.
                    Its horseshit from beginning to end and could have been constructed by Joe Arrigo. And I don't even need to look up the court records.

                    The Packers Board of Directors has been defanged. Harlan (continuing a trend that began before his hiring as CEO) had transferred power from it to the Executive Committee. Itself a much more smaller, agile and workable group. This is the group that Cliff Christl fears like a Mason fears the Spanish Inquisition. Guess who is NOT on the Exec Committee?

                    The seven-member Executive Committee of the Green Bay Packers presently is composed of Mark H. Murphy, President; Peter M. Platten III, Vice President; Carl W. Kuehne, Secretary; Larry L. Weyers, Treasurer; Daniel T. Ariens, Member; John F. Bergstrom, Member; Edward N. Martin, Member.
                    If the power to KEEP a coach for personal reasons exists (and I doubt it does given there are seven people voting including Murphy) it exists here and not in the 44 member Board of Directors.

                    Second, the entire Packer Organization wanted to extend McCarthy, including his boss and both CEOs (Harlan and Murphy). This conspiracy theory rests on conflating the notion that the Packers could be rid of McCarthy if not for nefarious back room dealing. It wants you to ignore that no one in the building had reason to want him gone before last season. He had the contract before he gave anyone reason to want him gone, even if you decided you wanted him gone as you were watching the 6-10 season.

                    Third, his deal is not above average for coaches on the second contract. That is, coaches whose teams are sure they want to retain the coach. It would be higher than the average only of you compared him with other first contract coaches.

                    Fourth, even if you want to believe that Kress has this motivation (and we know of no mitigating information because the conspiracy theorist has left out all context) he was only one vote in agreeing to this course of action. Others who presumably did not have McCarthy schtupping their ex voted in favor of this deal.

                    Fifth. McCarthy may be Irish Catholic (which may not play as well in Wisconsin as the author thinks given that most of his fellow Catholics in the State are German) he is also divorced. It may have been annulled, but this information has not come to light. Come to think of it, I am not certain he was married to the mother of his daughter. If they were trying to impress this constituency, this would be important info.

                    Sixth, as a Catholic who got someone pregnant with their first child PRIOR to marriage vows, this makes McCarthy fairly typical. The fact that the parents are now married would tie everything up with a bow for the concerned parishioners. Even Pat Robertson would approve.

                    This story is horse dung.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • #85
                      the crappy O-line is all on TT.

                      but the penalties and crappy special team play is on MM. the team has no discipline whatsoever. I'm also not impressed w/ play calling. If you can't block then why can't we start throwing shorter quicker passes. more screens. more draws. more spread the field and run. I swear Grant's big yards in 2007 game from spreading the field and running.

                      TT took a shit on the O-line and MM took a shit on discipline and play calling.

                      time for a change. All we have accomplished is being the youngest team in the NFL 2 years running...maybe 3. Neither guy is going to get the team to the next level.

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                      • #86
                        I missed the part about the grassy knoll.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by pbmax
                          Originally posted by MadtownPacker
                          Originally posted by mraynrand
                          Did her marriage to Stubby prevent a large settlement payout? Did McCarthy saddle up the team as a favor of sorts?
                          Sounds like Stubby getting the fat payday kept the ex from having to pay so much alimony and kept the kiddies in WI. Again not sure where this shit came from or how true it is.
                          Its horseshit from beginning to end and could have been constructed by Joe Arrigo. And I don't even need to look up the court records.

                          The Packers Board of Directors has been defanged. Harlan (continuing a trend that began before his hiring as CEO) had transferred power from it to the Executive Committee. Itself a much more smaller, agile and workable group. This is the group that Cliff Christl fears like a Mason fears the Spanish Inquisition. Guess who is NOT on the Exec Committee?

                          The seven-member Executive Committee of the Green Bay Packers presently is composed of Mark H. Murphy, President; Peter M. Platten III, Vice President; Carl W. Kuehne, Secretary; Larry L. Weyers, Treasurer; Daniel T. Ariens, Member; John F. Bergstrom, Member; Edward N. Martin, Member.
                          If the power to KEEP a coach for personal reasons exists (and I doubt it does given there are seven people voting including Murphy) it exists here and not in the 44 member Board of Directors.

                          Second, the entire Packer Organization wanted to extend McCarthy, including his boss and both CEOs (Harlan and Murphy). This conspiracy theory rests on conflating the notion that the Packers could be rid of McCarthy if not for nefarious back room dealing. It wants you to ignore that no one in the building had reason to want him gone before last season. He had the contract before he gave anyone reason to want him gone, even if you decided you wanted him gone as you were watching the 6-10 season.

                          Third, his deal is not above average for coaches on the second contract. That is, coaches whose teams are sure they want to retain the coach. It would be higher than the average only of you compared him with other first contract coaches.

                          Fourth, even if you want to believe that Kress has this motivation (and we know of no mitigating information because the conspiracy theorist has left out all context) he was only one vote in agreeing to this course of action. Others who presumably did not have McCarthy schtupping their ex voted in favor of this deal.

                          Fifth. McCarthy may be Irish Catholic (which may not play as well in Wisconsin as the author thinks given that most of his fellow Catholics in the State are German) he is also divorced. It may have been annulled, but this information has not come to light. Come to think of it, I am not certain he was married to the mother of his daughter. If they were trying to impress this constituency, this would be important info.

                          Sixth, as a Catholic who got someone pregnant with their first child PRIOR to marriage vows, this makes McCarthy fairly typical. The fact that the parents are now married would tie everything up with a bow for the concerned parishioners. Even Pat Robertson would approve.

                          This story is horse dung.
                          I can't believe you actually debunked the story! Perhaps next you could outline how the Mossad didn't cause 911.
                          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by mraynrand
                            Originally posted by pbmax
                            Originally posted by MadtownPacker
                            Originally posted by mraynrand
                            Did her marriage to Stubby prevent a large settlement payout? Did McCarthy saddle up the team as a favor of sorts?
                            Sounds like Stubby getting the fat payday kept the ex from having to pay so much alimony and kept the kiddies in WI. Again not sure where this shit came from or how true it is.
                            Its horseshit from beginning to end and could have been constructed by Joe Arrigo. And I don't even need to look up the court records.

                            The Packers Board of Directors has been defanged. Harlan (continuing a trend that began before his hiring as CEO) had transferred power from it to the Executive Committee. Itself a much more smaller, agile and workable group. This is the group that Cliff Christl fears like a Mason fears the Spanish Inquisition. Guess who is NOT on the Exec Committee?

                            The seven-member Executive Committee of the Green Bay Packers presently is composed of Mark H. Murphy, President; Peter M. Platten III, Vice President; Carl W. Kuehne, Secretary; Larry L. Weyers, Treasurer; Daniel T. Ariens, Member; John F. Bergstrom, Member; Edward N. Martin, Member.
                            If the power to KEEP a coach for personal reasons exists (and I doubt it does given there are seven people voting including Murphy) it exists here and not in the 44 member Board of Directors.

                            Second, the entire Packer Organization wanted to extend McCarthy, including his boss and both CEOs (Harlan and Murphy). This conspiracy theory rests on conflating the notion that the Packers could be rid of McCarthy if not for nefarious back room dealing. It wants you to ignore that no one in the building had reason to want him gone before last season. He had the contract before he gave anyone reason to want him gone, even if you decided you wanted him gone as you were watching the 6-10 season.

                            Third, his deal is not above average for coaches on the second contract. That is, coaches whose teams are sure they want to retain the coach. It would be higher than the average only of you compared him with other first contract coaches.

                            Fourth, even if you want to believe that Kress has this motivation (and we know of no mitigating information because the conspiracy theorist has left out all context) he was only one vote in agreeing to this course of action. Others who presumably did not have McCarthy schtupping their ex voted in favor of this deal.

                            Fifth. McCarthy may be Irish Catholic (which may not play as well in Wisconsin as the author thinks given that most of his fellow Catholics in the State are German) he is also divorced. It may have been annulled, but this information has not come to light. Come to think of it, I am not certain he was married to the mother of his daughter. If they were trying to impress this constituency, this would be important info.

                            Sixth, as a Catholic who got someone pregnant with their first child PRIOR to marriage vows, this makes McCarthy fairly typical. The fact that the parents are now married would tie everything up with a bow for the concerned parishioners. Even Pat Robertson would approve.

                            This story is horse dung.
                            I can't believe you actually debunked the story! Perhaps next you could outline how the Mossad didn't cause 911.
                            C'mon. No one believes that kind of thing. Everyone knows it was publicity stunt for "24" gone horribly awry.
                            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                            • #89
                              ok, i was waiting for someone else to post this so it didn't look like i was the only one holding the torch and pitchfork. but its been a couple hours now, so oh well

                              m3, just doesn't know how to shut up, he keeps throwing diesel on the fire

                              from pft

                              McCarthy: Pass protection problems are correctable
                              Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on November 9, 2009 3:45 PM ET
                              No team inflates opposing sack numbers like the Green Bay Packers. (Jared Allen will have to thank them in his Defensive Player of the Year acceptance speech.)

                              The Buccaneers had eleven sacks all season before Sunday, then dropped Aaron Rodgers six times. The return of tackles Mark Tauscher and Chad Clifton appeared to help in the first half, as Rodgers stayed clean. But Tauscher then went down with a knee strain in the third quarter and the carnage started.

                              Packers coach Mike McCarthy was asked if he'd be open to getting suggestions from other coaches or friends to help fix the problem.

                              "I think anytime you are in problem solving, it's about applying solutions. It's obvious what has gone on in our particular failures in that area," McCarthy said. "There are other options as we move forward, and those are some of the things we'll look to in certain situations. We don't need wholesale change.

                              "We may need to adjust some things and that will be our focus. But as far as going outside the building, I'm not going to sit here and tell you that I have all the answers, but I'm very confident in the issues that we've had in pass protection, that they are correctable."

                              McCarthy hasn't corrected anything so far. The Packers have taken seven more sacks than any team in football. The other top eight teams in sacks allowed all have losing records. The folks around the Packers are tired of hearing McCarthy say the same things each week.

                              After reading the above quote, Greg A. Bedard of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel tweeted "Does McCarthy realize how infuriating that is for Packers fans to hear -- or even Aaron Rodgers and the receivers?"

                              McCarthy is either delusional or not doing a good job fixing the correctable mistakes, which certainly include Rodgers' penchant for holding the ball too long. McCarthy will likely have to make adjustments this week without Tauscher's help -- there is only a "slight" chance the right tackle could play.

                              Your turn, Cowboys.
                              if its fixable then it should have been fixed by now. to me m3 just admitted he can't fix the problem

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by MadtownPacker
                                Mike Hump Daddy McCarthy
                                "Grunt like sodomized apes"

                                C.H.U.D.

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