First Chink in the Kids Armour?

[mraynrand]

Just so we are clear, I doubt Rodgers interview skills will turn around the season..

Maybe he needs to fire his speaking coach. But changing speaking coaches in the middle of the season ir rarely done and rarely helpful.

[bobblehead]

Um, he said the offense had gave them a shrot field.

What he should of said was something like this.

"I could of played better today. You can't turn the ball over 3 times and expect to win. Those ints were on me, and they were big in what lead to this loss today. We need all three phases to play well to win, but we also need to win the turnover battle. I needed to play better I did to win this game."

That is shouldering the loss. Instead with an 11 point lead he says the special teams changed the pace?

Right after they scored, we had the ball with a 5 point lead, wwas driving, and had 3rd and 1. We called a pass play (no idea why, pound hte damn rock MM) and it was incomplete or a sack (can't remember). That was the momentum changer. We were about to really put the game away, 3rd and 1, didn't get it done.

He also got the ball back again with a chance to win, plenty of time and TO in his pocket. He collapsed under pressure and stood there like a statue.

So, what i ma saying is, even mentioning hte kick of return as a reason for a loss, when he had the ball in his hands twice to put the game away, and end, it, with plenty of time left is to me not shouldering anything.

YOu must have really long arms to reach like this. And as others have said, he DID shoulder a lot of the blame. Seriously, if you want to talk about the team, the bad game he had, TT failing to shore up the OL go right ahead, but to pick one sentence of an interview and ignore all the comments all season long to try and bag on our QB that is playing at a very high level is just plain weak.

[bobblehead]

Um, he said the offense had gave them a shrot field.

What he should of said was something like this.

"I could of played better today. You can't turn the ball over 3 times and expect to win. Those ints were on me, and they were big in what lead to this loss today. We need all three phases to play well to win, but we also need to win the turnover battle. I needed to play better I did to win this game."

That is shouldering the loss. Instead with an 11 point lead he says the special teams changed the pace?

Right after they scored, we had the ball with a 5 point lead, wwas driving, and had 3rd and 1. We called a pass play (no idea why, pound hte damn rock MM) and it was incomplete or a sack (can't remember). That was the momentum changer. We were about to really put the game away, 3rd and 1, didn't get it done.

He also got the ball back again with a chance to win, plenty of time and TO in his pocket. He collapsed under pressure and stood there like a statue.

So, what i ma saying is, even mentioning hte kick of return as a reason for a loss, when he had the ball in his hands twice to put the game away, and end, it, with plenty of time left is to me not shouldering anything.

pefectly said. Too many wanna give him a free pass for stuff. I wish he was held responsible for stuff. Hell he hasn't earned anything yet.

You two sound very bitter. All your #4 merchandise is nothing but enemy product now. I understand you hate the fact that BF didn't want to play for hte packers anymore, but honestly, leave ARod out of it.

[PlantPage55]

Look at it this way, regardless of the position we put them in, the defense gave up 30+ points. Now, Rodgers is smart enough to know that HE and the offense were half of the culprits yesterday. Special Teams was the other half.

It would be easy for ANYONE to call out the defense. Aaron Rodgers calls out the right people, including himself.

He blamed himself. Convenient that it would be ignored in the OP.

[g4orce]

Look at it this way, regardless of the position we put them in, the defense gave up 30+ points. Now, Rodgers is smart enough to know that HE and the offense were half of the culprits yesterday. Special Teams was the other half.

It would be easy for ANYONE to call out the defense. Aaron Rodgers calls out the right people, including himself.

He blamed himself. Convenient that it would be ignored in the OP.

he didn't take responsibility, he deflected blame into other areas for the loss.

[Scott Campbell]

"Chester's an excellent receiver. I thought it was a good call. We were moving the ball well at the time. Things happen," Favre said. "We struggled a little in the red zone today obviously. That will be a point of emphasis not only for us but for me this week."




I would have like to seen Favre take responsibility for puking up 14 4th quarter points to the Steelers two weeks ago.




There - now I sound nearly as stupid as you two.

[g4orce]

"Chester's an excellent receiver. I thought it was a good call. We were moving the ball well at the time. Things happen," Favre said. "We struggled a little in the red zone today obviously. That will be a point of emphasis not only for us but for me this week."




I would have like to seen Favre take responsibility for puking up 14 4th quarter points for the Steelers two weeks ago.




There, now I sound nearly as stupid as you two.

knew it'd be only a matter of time before u attacked him. Classy as always.

[Scott Campbell]

"Chester's an excellent receiver. I thought it was a good call. We were moving the ball well at the time. Things happen," Favre said. "We struggled a little in the red zone today obviously. That will be a point of emphasis not only for us but for me this week."




I would have like to seen Favre take responsibility for puking up 14 4th quarter points for the Steelers two weeks ago.




There, now I sound nearly as stupid as you two.

knew it'd be only a matter of time before u attacked him. Classy as always.

Just as I knew it would only be a matter of time until you attacked Rodgers. Classy, and predictable as always.

[Brandon494]

This thread blows.

No. This thread sucks.

+1

Can't believe I just wanted a minute of my life reading this shit.

[g4orce]

"Chester's an excellent receiver. I thought it was a good call. We were moving the ball well at the time. Things happen," Favre said. "We struggled a little in the red zone today obviously. That will be a point of emphasis not only for us but for me this week."




I would have like to seen Favre take responsibility for puking up 14 4th quarter points for the Steelers two weeks ago.




There, now I sound nearly as stupid as you two.

knew it'd be only a matter of time before u attacked him. Classy as always.

Just as I knew it would only be a matter of time until you attacked Rodgers. Classy, and predictable as always.

haven't at all attacked him. Just opened a debate on if he's starting to crack.

[pbmax]

Look at it this way, regardless of the position we put them in, the defense gave up 30+ points. Now, Rodgers is smart enough to know that HE and the offense were half of the culprits yesterday. Special Teams was the other half.

It would be easy for ANYONE to call out the defense. Aaron Rodgers calls out the right people, including himself.

He blamed himself. Convenient that it would be ignored in the OP.

he didn't take responsibility, he deflected blame into other areas for the loss.

Only if you stick your fingers in your ears when you reach the part of the interview that isn't convenient for your argument. Have you read the rest of the interview?

It's pretty frustrating. It was a different game today. Big play, second play of the game, come back throw a pick.

It's very frustrating. We feel like we should be able to move the ball on anybody. They played with a lot of confidence on defense, they had a good scheme, you've got to give them credit, they made plays. But we didn't make enough plays on offense and that's why we came up short.

The first one, I didn't see him. Tried to kind of put it in there against the wind. Felt good about the second ball. Unfortunately got a little deflection there. And then the third one is third and 17 or whatever....Third or fourth down, think it was desperation. Still felt good about the throw but may have been a little bit high.

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Re: First Chink in the Kids Armour?

Is Aaron Rodgers starting to crack?

Aren't you starting to reach?

Are you holding him to a different standard? If a certain QB had said anything about anyone else effecting the game, you'd be the first in line to jump on him and tell people how bad of a person he is.

I listened to Arod's press conference. He sounds whinny. Its not a good sign. He's been very good with the media through everything, I'd hate to see that change now.

Really? I for one am praying Rodgers blows up at MM on the sideline after a busted drive due to poor playcalling. That will most certainly get MM fired.

You should read the PI articles. Bob McGinn had scouts break down every single play the Packer ran over a series of a games and they concluded that Jennings is just about always open and they run almost all west coast stuff, not just the deep ball.

This was the overhead game footage that teams get. Not television footage.

Scout said that Rodgers never throws over the middle, something I was saying all of last year. Scouts said he is late in making his decisions, something I was saying all of last year.

Rodgers would be benched if he cocks off to the coach. Who are you kidding?

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Nothing he said is questioned on truth, what is questioned is this: In his worst game of his career... why isn't he taking the blame? Each one of his ints were just as much of a momentum swing, if not worse, then any of the moments he mentioned.


Up 7 - 0, hadn them a int that give sthem a free score. Driving, throw a int deep in the endzone into tripple coverage to end our threat to put the game really out of reach.

Game winning "chance" in end, throw a high ball on 4th down for a int return for a TD to seal the victory and cap the game.


What I am getting at here, is when your starting QB plays bad, even when he plays average or good, you want him to shoulder the blame for the loss. That is what a good leader does, takes the heat. Seems he passed the heat off the the special teams instead, when arguably we can stare at Rodgers and say "buddy, you lost us the game". Yeah, it's all three phases, but we lost the turnover battle I think for the first time this year.

WHo's fault was that?

*cough* Rodgers. Not going to win many games where you throw 3 ints.

Sure learned that the past 16 years.

You mean one of the most successful stints of an NFL franchise in the modern era? I don't have the stats but I bet you'd be hard pressed to find a more successful team consistently over a 16 since FA started.

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And for as bad as Rodgers was yesterday, he still managed 3TD's and staked his team to an 11 point 4th quarter lead.

And basically single-handedly gave the game away with yet another inept performance when it matters.

Key interceptions - lack of sustained drives - sacks - etc.

Nothing ever changes. Bob McGinn brought up some very telling points about our record and performance as a team since the Indy game last year. Beyond pathetic.

[Scott Campbell]

And for as bad as Rodgers was yesterday, he still managed 3TD's and staked his team to an 11 point 4th quarter lead.

And basically single-handedly gave the game away with yet another inept performance when it matters.

Sure Partial.