Brown: "The Vikings have stole our swagger, period.''

[g4orce]

From ProFootballTalk.com

Gilbert Brown rips Mike McCarthy
Posted by Michael David Smith on November 10, 2009 3:56 PM ET
Former Packers defensive tackle Gilbert Brown says the team's loss to the Buccaneers on Sunday is the strongest sign to date that it's time for a new coach in Green Bay.

Speaking on WSSP in Milwaukee, Brown ripped Packers coach Mike McCarthy for the coaching job he's done this season.

"It is the head coach's fault," Brown said, per SportsRadioInterviews.com. "Everything that goes on starts with the big man upfront."

When it was pointed out to Brown that the Packers have personnel issues, which would seem to suggest that General Manager Ted Thompson is the problem, Brown said it's still McCarthy's job to find a way to win with the players he has.

"It doesn't matter," Brown said. "It doesn't matter with the talent and what you put on the field if you keep making mistakes week in and week out and you don't correct it and the same thing keeps going on."

Brown, who played with Brett Favre in Green Bay from 1993 to 2003, said the Packers' two losses to Favre and the Vikings doomed the whole season to failure.

"The Vikings have stole our swagger, period," Brown said. "Everybody on that team stole our swagger. Took our quarterback. Took our heart on Lambeau Field. Took our heart in front of millions of fans on TV. Then you go out and lose to an 0-7 team. The debacle started when they played the Vikings right there. The two Vikings games crushed the season."

[Kiwon]

That's tough talk.

Nobody's going to suggest that Gilbert Brown join MENSA but it's a tough, honest opinion coming from someone who knows what it's like to be in the lockeroom and the psychology of NFL players.

A couple more bad games in a row and the Packers front office might find themselves in "Fire Matt Millen" territory.

[woodbuck27]

There is something very wrong in Green Bay. I saw something that really bothered me when Favre and Vikings won at Lambeau. Did anyone else see it? Especially after the game?

[Smidgeon]

A couple more bad games in a row and the Packers front office might find themselves in "Fire Matt Millen" territory.

Not even close. Well--maybe we'll be in that territory, but it won't be justified. Millen was the GM, and TT isn't anywhere close to that bad.

[mraynrand]

A couple more bad games in a row and the Packers front office might find themselves in "Fire Matt Millen" territory.

Not even close. Well--maybe we'll be in that territory, but it won't be justified. Millen was the GM, and TT isn't anywhere close to that bad.

I agree. I think the Packers should fire Matt Millen.

[Kiwon]

A couple more bad games in a row and the Packers front office might find themselves in "Fire Matt Millen" territory.

Not even close. Well--maybe we'll be in that territory, but it won't be justified. Millen was the GM, and TT isn't anywhere close to that bad.

Your missing the point.

I was talking about the fans generally turning against those in the front office.

Gilbert was focused on the head coach. Others will be blaming TT. Take your pick over who would win a popularity contest.

Once the blame game starts in earnest, the whole front office gets targeted.

[Kiwon]

A couple more bad games in a row and the Packers front office might find themselves in "Fire Matt Millen" territory.

Not even close. Well--maybe we'll be in that territory, but it won't be justified. Millen was the GM, and TT isn't anywhere close to that bad.

I agree. I think the Packers should fire Matt Millen.

Matt Millen is like SPAM. He never goes away.

How about this, the Ford family's reluctance to part ways with Millen even as the Lions got worse and worse linked to a failure to innovate and the eventual decline of the American auto industry. Connect the dots.

[Freak Out]

A couple more bad games in a row and the Packers front office might find themselves in "Fire Matt Millen" territory.

Not even close. Well--maybe we'll be in that territory, but it won't be justified. Millen was the GM, and TT isn't anywhere close to that bad.

I agree. I think the Packers should fire Matt Millen.

Matt Millen is like SPAM. He never goes away.

How about this, the Ford family's reluctance to part ways with Millen even as the Lions got worse and worse linked to a failure to innovate and the eventual decline of the American auto industry. Connect the dots.

Ford is making money again correct? So I guess a Lions turn around is immanent.

[MadScientist]

A couple more bad games in a row and the Packers front office might find themselves in "Fire Matt Millen" territory.

Just as long as they don't ever, EVER find themselves in the hire Matt Millen territory, everything will work out ok.

[bobblehead]

gilby is right...mr. tough pittsburg guy got married, had a kid and now is afraid of the cold and won't practice outdoors. He is worried about working guys too hard, and our smash mouth running game has been around for exactly 8 games at the end of '07.

We need some cock in the walk...we need some physical play...and I'm not talking about head butting a guy on 4th down. I honestly believe the type of practices he runs is at the core of this. I want special teams FIGHTS, not pissy holding penalties. I want our OL driving guys into the ground until the whistle, not false starts. And finally I want a swarming defense that can get to a QB on 3rd down.

[Cheesehead Craig]

Pay no attention to Gilbert, they just interviewed him when he was hungry and they were keeping a huge burger just out of his reach.

[denverYooper]

There is something very wrong in Green Bay. I saw something that really bothered me when Favre and Vikings won at Lambeau. Did anyone else see it? Especially after the game?

My log saw it happen.

[denverYooper]

Gilbert should stick to what he's good at: being fat.

[Brandon494]

Gilbert should stick to what he's good at: being fat.

Great insight!

Gilbert is right, we keep seeing the same shit week in and week out and it all falls on MM. People can blame TT all they want but he has provided this team with talent. MM is a joke of a coach and I really don't think the players respect him. We need a coach with a personality that the players can connect with.

[g4orce]

There is something very wrong in Green Bay. I saw something that really bothered me when Favre and Vikings won at Lambeau. Did anyone else see it? Especially after the game?

I saw it. I think a lotta players on the Packers did the right thing by what they say to the press about the whole Favre thing but what they actually feel is a whole nother story. I saw them all embrace a man that just kicked their ass for the 2nd time, and this time on their home field in front of basically all of America. Something isn't right in GB and it hasnt been for a couple years now.