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Lots of people in here could IMO take courtesy lessons from pbmax on how to disagree with somebody in a classy matter instead of being jerks about it
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TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER -
Personally I don't think the Bears game was a "huge" game. It was big, in the sense that it wasn't small. It was the first game of the season and divisional game, so that adds a bit to it, but it wasn't a huge game in the way of an upset or anything like that.Originally posted by pbmax
I consider a home game a game he should win. Maybe not if it's against the Colts, Pats, etc. But against the Bears? Yeah, you should beat the Bears at home.
Wiscy, Cutler is having a down year. He doesn't have anyone helping him at all. Rodgers talent surrounding him is much, much better at receiver imo. Their #1 is our #5.
@ Seattle is a big game as they are one of the best home teams in the league. Remember the 12th man? Tough place to play and he went in and beat them.
He also beat Pittsburgh.
Those are two tough games right there, which are games the Packers have not yet won with Rodgers. Will they ever? Time will tell.
Cutler is having a down year, no doubt. He has fantastic physical tools. Rodgers is probably a better runner but Cutler has a better arm. Rodgers looks to be in much better shape now, as Cutler look fluffy. I think the Bears will have a hard time getting talent around Cutler the next couple of years. They're entering a rebuilding phase. We have more talent but are in that awkward should-we-compete-should-we-rebuild phase.
One thing I'm not sure about is if it was smart to find their QB at the start of their rebuilding. Say it takes them three years to put a super bowl team around Cutler, he's almost 30 and with diabetes he could very well be out of the league by then. Time will tell. They're certainly better off with Cutler now than they would be without, but all that is doing is putting you closer to average and further away from the superstars at the top of the draft. From a rebuilding perspective I'm not sure that's a wise move, but then again there are no guarantees in any of this.Comment
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The truth hurts. The world needs jerks occasionally. There are already more than enough whiney vagina's in it. If being honest is classless then I'm one huge asshole.Originally posted by Bretsky"I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince LombardiComment
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Fair enough. Hester certainly didn't help Cutler at all tonight. That was probably his worst game as a WR from what I have watched.
Regarding big games, I was going by nationally televised games. Those are pressure games. With that said, Cutler beat Seattle when they were missing 8 starters. And still only won because Mare missed 2 short fieldgoals. He also beat Pitt without Polamalu. And again, won that game because the kicker missed 2 easy fieldgoals.
In my opinion, the Bears have been very lucky about playing teams when they are missing good players. Of course they will be full strength when we play them.Comment
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Sage advice from our caramel loving friend.Originally posted by BretskyC.H.U.D.Comment
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Bears suck this year. They definitely look like the third best team in the division from the limited time I've watched them.Originally posted by WiscySportsComment
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Originally posted by Freak Out
Dang, I could go for some serious caramel tonight
TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWERComment
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Week 6 last year the Packers won at..........wait for it........Seattle.Originally posted by Partial
Sure, the Seahawks started Frye at QB, but if Cutler gets credit for a "big" win over a Seattle team missing 8 starters then I don't see why Rodgers wouldn't get the same credit.Go PACKComment
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I will assume the "two biggest games" you referred to are the Viking games. I have to disagree with the "outclassed" characterization. When a QB goes:Originally posted by Partial
26/37 for 384 with 2 TDs and 1 INT for a rating of 110.6; and
26/41 for 287 with 3 TDs and 0 INTs for a rating of 108.5
he is not "out classed" regardless of the numbers put up by the opposing QB.
Their combined #s for the two games:
A.R. - 52/78 for 671 yards, 5 TDs and 1 interception.
B.F. - 41/59 for 515 yards, 7 TDs and 0 interceptions.
The Packer team was outclassed by MN. Rodgers was not outclassed by Favre.Comment
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Jay Cutler (thru 9 games)
Rank 24
Rating 76
TD's 14
Int's 17
Yards 2353
Pct. 62.4%
Sacks 19
Aaron Rodgers (thru 8 games)
Rank 5
Rating 103.3
TD's 16
Int's 5
Yards 2255
Pct. 64.1%
Sacks 37
Cutler is ranked behind Jason Campbell, Shaun Hill, Seneca Wallace and Chad Henne - all who may not be good enough to start next year.
I'd be hoping for a lot more if I had given up 2 first rounders, a 3rd rounder and the guy (Orton) ranked 10 spots higher than him to get this so called franchise QB.Comment
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How long of a run would you like to give him to be fine?Originally posted by g4orce"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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FixedOriginally posted by Scott CampbellComment
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Wow. Them's some numbers!"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
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Originally posted by Partial
P,
That's unfortunate. While you'd never concede an argument, you have conceded your allegiance.
I'd much rather see you as a Packer fan.
You haven't been posting as a Packer fan for a while, and perhaps that partially explains the reaction to your posts.Comment
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With a 4 pick lead over Jake Delhomme, Jay has a real opportunity to lead the league in INT's this year. It must be the water in Chicago.Comment
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