Thursday Night Football

[Cheesehead Craig]

With a 4 pick lead over Jake Delhomme, Jay has a real opportunity to lead the league in INT's this year. It must be the water in Chicago.

The way he's playing, he's probably drinking it straight from the river.

[denverYooper]

The Denver sportscasters are having a blast with Cutler's struggles. It's too bad for him he had to jerk his way out of Denver because McDaniels might have been able to coach him up some.

You also have to consider that he doesn't have Marshall and Stokely (and Scheffler) to throw to. Part of Cutler's game is that he leans on the receivers to make plays; those guys were able to do that. I'm not sure Chicago has that in their receiving corps. They have Olsen, who is a big target and a good receiving TE -- Scheffler was that guy in Denver. They don't have anyone with the physicality of Marshall who will take INTs away, and they don't have anyone with the awareness of Stokely, who is not a marquee guy but is very good at making adjustments on challenging throws.

I think the best thing Chicago could do for Cutler is draft a physical receiver with a Marshall-esque skill set. He needs that guy who he can trust to win on the ball. Right now he has Olsen, but he really needs another big option. He'll still have some bad games, but some of those questionable throws won't turn into INTs.

[g4orce]

I wonder what Cutler will say in his post game presser. It's possible that he could change before our very eyes.

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[Scott Campbell]

[g4orce]

All in good fun!

[Bossman641]

"I have to apologize to the defense, and the offense as a whole has to apologize," a humbled Cutler said after throwing a career-high five interceptions.

What does he mean THE OFFENSE? Shouldn't he have just apologized for himself? Way to throw everybody else under the bus as well.

[WiscySports]

"I have to apologize to the defense, and the offense as a whole has to apologize," a humbled Cutler said after throwing a career-high five interceptions.

What does he mean THE OFFENSE? Shouldn't he have just apologized for himself? Way to throw everybody else under the bus as well.

Well, it might be fairly true, but it is not what he should say, and it speaks to what kind of person and teammate he is. That old offensive line is finally starting to wear down. How many times did Kreutz snap it in the dirt? His receivers ran wrong routes, and Forte is nonexistant in the running game. The only thing that worked was screens and dump offs to Forte. But, he needs to take responsibility for a loss. Remember he threw Hester under the bus before the season even started. Plus, at least three of the INTs were completely on him last night.

Partial, I would love to know what you see in him to suggest he is a winner. You claim he has all the tangibles/intangibles. Sure, he has a strong arm, but that is it. And like you have said before in typical disrespect to ARod, many QBs have had a good skill set and amount to nothing. He is a horrible person and I think it is pretty evident. I would have no confidence in him if I was on that team. Please enlighten.

[The Shadow]

Like I said, Rodgers hasn't won a big game.

Not true. Our opener against our biggest rival is a big game.

I haven't looked at the Bears as our biggest rival in a long long time. They've just sucked for too long. The Denny Green Years...Moss...now..to me the Vikes are the biggest rival and have been for about the past 10 years since we owned the Bears so badly

The Bears recently went to the Superbowl, so I don't think they've sucked for too long. And Lovie's got the best of the Packers in his tenure.

Wasn't there a stread where Green Bay defeated the Bears nearly 16 of 18 games before Lovie ? I think they even beat them when da Bears went to the Super Bowl. In my eyes the rivalry has been lost; may be wrong. If I had to pick I'd take two wins over the Vikes and two losses to the Bears if I had to choose

I'd be just the opposite. The Vikings have just never meant all that much to me. Just 2 games on the schedule.
On the other hand, Bear games mean the world to me; I'd rather beat them - by far! - than any other team in the NFL.

[Bretsky]

Like I said, Rodgers hasn't won a big game.

Not true. Our opener against our biggest rival is a big game.

I haven't looked at the Bears as our biggest rival in a long long time. They've just sucked for too long. The Denny Green Years...Moss...now..to me the Vikes are the biggest rival and have been for about the past 10 years since we owned the Bears so badly

The Bears recently went to the Superbowl, so I don't think they've sucked for too long. And Lovie's got the best of the Packers in his tenure.

Wasn't there a stread where Green Bay defeated the Bears nearly 16 of 18 games before Lovie ? I think they even beat them when da Bears went to the Super Bowl. In my eyes the rivalry has been lost; may be wrong. If I had to pick I'd take two wins over the Vikes and two losses to the Bears if I had to choose

I'd be just the opposite. The Vikings have just never meant all that much to me. Just 2 games on the schedule.
On the other hand, Bear games mean the world to me; I'd rather beat them - by far! - than any other team in the NFL.

Yes, and I think I would as well if I lived in Bear Country (I think you had noted you do). Hey, don't you ever check your private messages ? I actually sent a PM apologizing for the brashness of one of my posts when you started up a thread I didn't much care for.........I think it's from about six weeks ago and still in my outbox so you never read it.


Cheers,
B

[MOBB DEEP]

"I have to apologize to the defense, and the offense as a whole has to apologize," a humbled Cutler said after throwing a career-high five interceptions.

What does he mean THE OFFENSE? Shouldn't he have just apologized for himself? Way to throw everybody else under the bus as well.

Well, it might be fairly true, but it is not what he should say, and it speaks to what kind of person and teammate he is. That old offensive line is finally starting to wear down. How many times did Kreutz snap it in the dirt? His receivers ran wrong routes, and Forte is nonexistant in the running game. The only thing that worked was screens and dump offs to Forte. But, he needs to take responsibility for a loss. Remember he threw Hester under the bus before the season even started. Plus, at least three of the INTs were completely on him last night.

Partial, I would love to know what you see in him to suggest he is a winner. You claim he has all the tangibles/intangibles. Sure, he has a strong arm, but that is it. And like you have said before in typical disrespect to ARod, many QBs have had a good skill set and amount to nothing. He is a horrible person and I think it is pretty evident. I would have no confidence in him if I was on that team. Please enlighten.

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[The Shadow]

Like I said, Rodgers hasn't won a big game.

Not true. Our opener against our biggest rival is a big game.

I haven't looked at the Bears as our biggest rival in a long long time. They've just sucked for too long. The Denny Green Years...Moss...now..to me the Vikes are the biggest rival and have been for about the past 10 years since we owned the Bears so badly

The Bears recently went to the Superbowl, so I don't think they've sucked for too long. And Lovie's got the best of the Packers in his tenure.

Wasn't there a stread where Green Bay defeated the Bears nearly 16 of 18 games before Lovie ? I think they even beat them when da Bears went to the Super Bowl. In my eyes the rivalry has been lost; may be wrong. If I had to pick I'd take two wins over the Vikes and two losses to the Bears if I had to choose

I'd be just the opposite. The Vikings have just never meant all that much to me. Just 2 games on the schedule.
On the other hand, Bear games mean the world to me; I'd rather beat them - by far! - than any other team in the NFL.

Yes, and I think I would as well if I lived in Bear Country (I think you had noted you do). Hey, don't you ever check your private messages ? I actually sent a PM apologizing for the brashness of one of my posts when you started up a thread I didn't much care for.........I think it's from about six weeks ago and still in my outbox so you never read it.

Cheers,
B

Sorry, Bretsky - we elderly often forget things. I have taken care of it. Sorry about the delay.

[Bretsky]

Like I said, Rodgers hasn't won a big game.

Not true. Our opener against our biggest rival is a big game.

I haven't looked at the Bears as our biggest rival in a long long time. They've just sucked for too long. The Denny Green Years...Moss...now..to me the Vikes are the biggest rival and have been for about the past 10 years since we owned the Bears so badly

The Bears recently went to the Superbowl, so I don't think they've sucked for too long. And Lovie's got the best of the Packers in his tenure.

Wasn't there a stread where Green Bay defeated the Bears nearly 16 of 18 games before Lovie ? I think they even beat them when da Bears went to the Super Bowl. In my eyes the rivalry has been lost; may be wrong. If I had to pick I'd take two wins over the Vikes and two losses to the Bears if I had to choose

I'd be just the opposite. The Vikings have just never meant all that much to me. Just 2 games on the schedule.
On the other hand, Bear games mean the world to me; I'd rather beat them - by far! - than any other team in the NFL.

Yes, and I think I would as well if I lived in Bear Country (I think you had noted you do). Hey, don't you ever check your private messages ? I actually sent a PM apologizing for the brashness of one of my posts when you started up a thread I didn't much care for.........I think it's from about six weeks ago and still in my outbox so you never read it.

Cheers,
B

Sorry, Bretsky - we elderly often forget things. I have taken care of it. Sorry about the delay.

no problem at all Shadow; have a great weekend !!

[Partial]

"I have to apologize to the defense, and the offense as a whole has to apologize," a humbled Cutler said after throwing a career-high five interceptions.

What does he mean THE OFFENSE? Shouldn't he have just apologized for himself? Way to throw everybody else under the bus as well.

Well, it might be fairly true, but it is not what he should say, and it speaks to what kind of person and teammate he is. That old offensive line is finally starting to wear down. How many times did Kreutz snap it in the dirt? His receivers ran wrong routes, and Forte is nonexistant in the running game. The only thing that worked was screens and dump offs to Forte. But, he needs to take responsibility for a loss. Remember he threw Hester under the bus before the season even started. Plus, at least three of the INTs were completely on him last night.

Partial, I would love to know what you see in him to suggest he is a winner. You claim he has all the tangibles/intangibles. Sure, he has a strong arm, but that is it. And like you have said before in typical disrespect to ARod, many QBs have had a good skill set and amount to nothing. He is a horrible person and I think it is pretty evident. I would have no confidence in him if I was on that team. Please enlighten.

Bossman, his OL is worse than the Packers imo and he doesn't have any receivers. He has a bottom five offensive cast around him. Certainly doesn't help that Forte isn't playing like he did as a Rook. He made some dumb throws but as we saw from Favre 2005 it's a very easy thing to do when you're chucking to Taco Wallace and Antuan Chatman.

Cutler punched the ball in to end the game against the Steelers. He gets mad props for showing up and beating a great team. ARod will too, once he does it.. if he ever does do it.

Calling him a horrible person seems completely out of line and over the top. We don't know anything about him as a person. We only know what the media feeds us.

[Bossman641]

Bossman, his OL is worse than the Packers imo and he doesn't have any receivers. He has a bottom five offensive cast around him. Certainly doesn't help that Forte isn't playing like he did as a Rook. He made some dumb throws but as we saw from Favre 2005 it's a very easy thing to do when you're chucking to Taco Wallace and Antuan Chatman.

Cutler punched the ball in to end the game against the Steelers. He gets mad props for showing up and beating a great team. ARod will too, once he does it.. if he ever does do it.

Calling him a horrible person seems completely out of line and over the top. We don't know anything about him as a person. We only know what the media feeds us.

Their Ol is bad. I won't attempt to argue whose OL is worse, they are both horrible. You also don't need to remind me about their offensive talent. I live in IL and have plenty of Bear fans who just stuck their fingers in their ears when I pointed out to them the huge difference between Marshall, Royal, Scheffler, and a good OL vs Hester, Olsen, etc. All they told me was that Cutler was a pro bowler and would make them better.

You obviously have your preference as to the type of QB you like. I disagree. Just my opinion, but you seem to go out of your way to make excuses for Cutler or other QB's (bad OL, just trying to make a play, bad offensive talent) while at the same time not giving Rodgers the benefit of the doubt for anything.

Regarding his character, I find it strange that the Bronco's were willing to get rid of Cutler as soon as they did. His behavior this offseason was strange and he acted poorly IMO. Their is also just his general body language on the field. This doesn't tell us anything definitive about the type of guy he is, but it doesn't paint him well.