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  • #31
    Originally posted by Brandon494
    Kampman also lost like 20 pounds to adjust to his new position so I doubt he could even play DE in the 3-4.

    Leverage means so much. I don't see a rested Kamp getting washed away in the run game, and the pass rush he'd add would be invaluable.
    Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Smidgeon
      Originally posted by Fritz
      They've got film on Matthews now. Will he be rendered ineffective as well?
      No, because Matthews is improving weekly. If Jones improves weekly, film won't render him ineffective. (I don't know why I'm siding with Partial...)
      I disagree, the way to exploit a guy is to beat him in the matchups...the cowboys tried last week and couldn't, you think with more film the next TE or RB or OT will do so much better??
      The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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      • #33
        Originally posted by bobblehead
        Originally posted by Smidgeon
        Originally posted by Fritz
        They've got film on Matthews now. Will he be rendered ineffective as well?
        No, because Matthews is improving weekly. If Jones improves weekly, film won't render him ineffective. (I don't know why I'm siding with Partial...)
        I disagree, the way to exploit a guy is to beat him in the matchups...the cowboys tried last week and couldn't, you think with more film the next TE or RB or OT will do so much better??
        Agreed, but how do you find out what is an effective match-up without having film? Very tough to plan to attack someone you don't know anything about.

        Film study reveals weaknesses to exploit and scheme against.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by The Shadow
          Originally posted by Brandon494
          Kampman also lost like 20 pounds to adjust to his new position so I doubt he could even play DE in the 3-4.

          Leverage means so much. I don't see a rested Kamp getting washed away in the run game, and the pass rush he'd add would be invaluable.
          Yea but Kampman dropped to 260, you want your DE to be atleast around 290 to eat up blockers. Jolly weights 325 and Jenkins 305, Kampman could not play 3-4 DE.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Partial
            Film study reveals weaknesses to exploit and scheme against.
            You mean like teams do to Kampman every week?
            "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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            • #36
              Originally posted by bobblehead
              Originally posted by Smidgeon
              Originally posted by Fritz
              They've got film on Matthews now. Will he be rendered ineffective as well?
              No, because Matthews is improving weekly. If Jones improves weekly, film won't render him ineffective. (I don't know why I'm siding with Partial...)
              I disagree, the way to exploit a guy is to beat him in the matchups...the cowboys tried last week and couldn't, you think with more film the next TE or RB or OT will do so much better??
              I disagree. To an extent. Especially with young players, they aren't yet complete players. They improve play to play, quarter to quarter, game to game, year to year. While each player has a talent ceiling that will come into the matchup equation (the part where I agree with you), until they reach that and are continually improving and becoming more savvy, things that appeared to be a problem (say a player was susceptible to a fake screen or to out routes or to mug a WR on every route--aka Grabby McFlag) on film won't be a problem the next time they play. The improvement in that case will eliminate the advantage of film because an out route won't be nearly as effective, or because the player remembers the last time he got taken out of his lane chasing a fake screen, or remembers not to mug the WR without taking his wallet too (aka Grabby McFlag--never could learn could he). That's where I disagree.
              No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by The Shadow
                Originally posted by Brandon494
                Kampman also lost like 20 pounds to adjust to his new position so I doubt he could even play DE in the 3-4.
                Leverage means so much. I don't see a rested Kamp getting washed away in the run game, and the pass rush he'd add would be invaluable.
                IDK, I can't see him not giving up ground to a guard. I am sure he could beat the guy to one side or the other, but taking the blocker head on is another story. Leverage only goes so far.

                If you watch Kamp now, he gets up field a little bit and uses the open space so that the blocker isn't able to easily engage him straight on. Watching that compared to Jolly lining straight across from a guard and then crashing head on into the guard just doesn't seem comparable.

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