Brett Favre: History’s Greatest Monster

[Iron Mike]

Props to whoever dredged this thread up.

[Iron Mike]

[packerbacker1234]

Well, the point I think is that we are a little "unfair" to ol' #4 in not coming up when it matters - because in general... most QB's don't come up when it matters most 80% of the time. Even the all time greats at the position failed, generally, more often than they succeeded in the biggest moments.

Favre is no different. He got to the top once. Got close to the top 5 more times. Sometimes, getting close was due to his play, other times, it was due to the team around him. Bottom line is, he has a ring, and it happened to be our first ring as a team since the 60's.

That is one more ring than the vikings have,

[pbmax]

There was a Ron Wolf article on JSO tonight. Brought back a lot of memories.

No Brett snark tonight. Just good memories.

And maybe one interception.

[gex]

Well, the point I think is that we are a little "unfair" to ol' #4 in not coming up when it matters - because in general... most QB's don't come up when it matters most 80% of the time. Even the all time greats at the position failed, generally, more often than they succeeded in the biggest moments.

Favre is no different. He got to the top once. Got close to the top 5 more times. Sometimes, getting close was due to his play, other times, it was due to the team around him. Bottom line is, he has a ring, and it happened to be our first ring as a team since the 60's.

That is one more ring than the vikings have,

People who can't get over it like to call Favre a failure but the truth is, only 1 team wins it all each year, all other teams fail...most qb's record in the playoffs are not going to be above .500

[Packgator]

Well, the point I think is that we are a little "unfair" to ol' #4 in not coming up when it matters - because in general... most QB's don't come up when it matters most 80% of the time. Even the all time greats at the position failed, generally, more often than they succeeded in the biggest moments.

In the history of the NFL, 25 QB's have started at least 10 playoff games. Favre is #17 on the (playoff game) winning percentage list (those with at least 10 starts).

1. Bart Starr...................... (.900) (9-1)
2. Jim Plunkett.................. (.800) (8-2)
2. Ben Roethlisberger........ (.800) (8-2)
4. Tom Brady................... (.778) (14-4)
5. Terry Bradshaw............. (.737) (14-5)
17. Brett Favre.................. (.542) (13-11)

Favre has started more playoff games than any other QB in NFL history.

1. Brett Favre................. (24)
2. Joe Montana.............. (23)
3. John Elway................ (21)
4. Terry Bradshaw.......... (19)
5. Tom Brady................ (18)
5. Peyton Manning......... (18)
5. Dan Marino............... (18)

Favre is #5 on the starting QB all time playoff game win list.

1. Joe Montana.............. (16)
2. Tom Brady................ (14)
2. Terry Bradshaw......... (14)
2. John Elway............... (14)
5. Brett Favre............... (13)

Favre has lost more playoff games than any other QB.

1. Brett Favre................ (11)
2. Dan Marino................ (10)
3. Peyton Manning........... (9)
4. Jim Kelly..................... (8)
5. Joe Montana............... (7)
5. John Elway................. (7)
5. Donovan McNabb........ (7)

QB's with the worst playoff game winning percentage and at least ten starts.

1. Warren Moon............. (.300) (3-7)
2. Dan Marino................ (.444) (8-10)
3. Steve McNair............. (.500) (5-5)
3. Mark Brunell.............. (.500) (5-5)
3. Danny White.............. (.500) (5-5)
3. Craig Morton............. (.500) (5-5)
3. Peyton Manning.......... (.500) (9-9)
8. Jim Kelly..................... (.529) (9-8)
9. Brett Favre................. (.542) (13-11)

Not sure what it all means.......other than there are some pretty good QB's on the above lists.

[mmmdk]

Playing two hundred seasons in the NFL will lead to some records.

BFs true legacy is his ironman starting streak & the chuckle he'll bring to sports fans when mentioned and compared with the real greats of the NFL history.

A script for a jester's [crocodile] tear...

[mraynrand]

only 1 team wins it all each year

You are correct, sir!

[pbmax]

QB's with the worst playoff game winning percentage and at least ten starts.

1. Warren Moon............. (.300) (3-7)
2. Dan Marino................ (.444) (8-10)
3. Steve McNair............. (.500) (5-5)
3. Mark Brunell.............. (.500) (5-5)
3. Danny White.............. (.500) (5-5)
3. Craig Morton............. (.500) (5-5)
3. Peyton Manning.......... (.500) (9-9)
8. Jim Kelly..................... (.529) (9-8)
9. Brett Favre................. (.542) (13-11)

Not sure what it all means.......other than there are some pretty good QB's on the above lists.

That last list is brutal. You don't normally see Kelly, Moon, Marino, Manning and Favre packed with the likes of Brunell, White and Morton.

It does give some credence to the thought that it all wasn't Brett's fault. Though in the second half of his career, he did not help himself.

[Joemailman]

Will always wonder what might have been if Holmgren hadn't left Green Bay.

Favre With Holmgren: 9-5
Favre Post-Holmgren 4-6