Can we finally say CROSBY HAS TO GO?

[BallHawk]

Why hasn't anybody mentioned that McCarthy was basically playing for a 40+ yard FG in cold weather? Crosby should make that kick, but why is MM completely contempt with just letting the kid kick it from far out? If you want to remedy the problem you let him kick a few short ones to get his confidence up.

And calling for his head is just stupid. I'm all for bringing in competition during camp, but if anybody seriously thinks that there's somebody out there that would be better for this team than Crosby...that's just stupid.

That ain't really cold weather.

I live in Florida. If the temperature makes it feel uncomfortable to wear flip flops, its cold.

[MJZiggy]

There was a dude on the train in flip flops. It was 29 degrees. I was tempted to tell him that if he goes to the local shelter, they'll try to get him a real pair of shoes...

[Patler]

Nick Folk missed a 42 yarder today that could have kept the Cowboys in the game. He's been pulling them bad. And they changed holders, back to Romo. Still no good.

Not only did Falk miss from 42 today, he is just 4/11 from 40-49 on the year. 4 of 11 ! !

[Maxie the Taxi]

Nick Folk missed a 42 yarder today that could have kept the Cowboys in the game. He's been pulling them bad. And they changed holders, back to Romo. Still no good.

Not only did Falk miss from 42 today, he is just 4/11 from 40-49 on the year. 4 of 11 ! !

Yeah, and we're going to fire our guy?

[hoosier]

And if it's against the Packers, she might score.

Does this mean my mom is easy?? Hmmm.

Not necessarily easy, just has a leg up on the competition.

[pbmax]

Re: Can we finally say CROSBY HAS TO GO?

I'd be shocked as hell if McStubby and TT changed horses in mid-stream. It's against their religion.

Jon. Ryan. A self-inflicted reason not to change horses midstream.

*****

For those blaming this on Crosby's confidence, that is like blaming play calling or "intensity" or "fired up"-ness of the team for poor performance. No one here has a clue about any of these very ambiguous, emotional, hard to quantify factors. And it is not clear how much they relate to success on the field.

He has a targeting problem, evidenced by his frequent misses from 40 yards out wide right when he is on the right hash. Like target shooting, he is clustering his misses in one specific area. This also means that his motion and the hold are probably OK. But his aiming point, or starting point is off. Correctable.

That said, if he does become a basket case and start missing them wildly, Suisham probably is not a horrible option. But I don't think its time to make that change.

[MichiganPackerFan]

There was a dude on the train in flip flops. It was 29 degrees. I was tempted to tell him that if he goes to the local shelter, they'll try to get him a real pair of shoes...

People here wear heavy winter coats, hats, scarves and gloves when it drops below 60 degrees. A lone snow flake flutters down and they park their can into the nearest tree or guard rail.

[MichiganPackerFan]

Re: Can we finally say CROSBY HAS TO GO?

I'd be shocked as hell if McStubby and TT changed horses in mid-stream. It's against their religion.

Jon. Ryan. A self-inflicted reason not to change horses midstream.

*****

For those blaming this on Crosby's confidence, that is like blaming play calling or "intensity" or "fired up"-ness of the team for poor performance. No one here has a clue about any of these very ambiguous, emotional, hard to quantify factors. And it is not clear how much they relate to success on the field.

He has a targeting problem, evidenced by his frequent misses from 40 yards out wide right when he is on the right hash. Like target shooting, he is clustering his misses in one specific area. This also means that his motion and the hold are probably OK. But his aiming point, or starting point is off. Correctable.

That said, if he does become a basket case and start missing them wildly, Suisham probably is not a horrible option. But I don't think its time to make that change.

I wasn't on the fire him wagon, but I think I'm there now. He's missed a lot that should be automatic. At a minimum some solid competition needs to be brought in during the offseason.

[Smidgeon]

Re: Can we finally say CROSBY HAS TO GO?

I'd be shocked as hell if McStubby and TT changed horses in mid-stream. It's against their religion.

Jon. Ryan. A self-inflicted reason not to change horses midstream.

*****

For those blaming this on Crosby's confidence, that is like blaming play calling or "intensity" or "fired up"-ness of the team for poor performance. No one here has a clue about any of these very ambiguous, emotional, hard to quantify factors. And it is not clear how much they relate to success on the field.

He has a targeting problem, evidenced by his frequent misses from 40 yards out wide right when he is on the right hash. Like target shooting, he is clustering his misses in one specific area. This also means that his motion and the hold are probably OK. But his aiming point, or starting point is off. Correctable.

That said, if he does become a basket case and start missing them wildly, Suisham probably is not a horrible option. But I don't think its time to make that change.

I wasn't on the fire him wagon, but I think I'm there now. He's missed a lot that should be automatic. At a minimum some solid competition needs to be brought in during the offseason.

I agree that competition should be brought in, but I also believe that Crosby is the long-term answer at kicker. He's got the leg and just needs to improve on his technique like every other player on the roster. The thing that makes mistakes glaring for both kickers and punters is that there is no one else to put on the field to cover their youth, incomplete techniques, or mistakes like you can with a linebacker, corner, wide receiver, etc. I earnestly believe Crosby will get better and everyone will be glad GB held onto him. GB could do a lot worse. But I agree competition will only help him.

[bobblehead]

Why hasn't anybody mentioned that McCarthy was basically playing for a 40+ yard FG in cold weather? Crosby should make that kick, but why is MM completely contempt with just letting the kid kick it from far out? If you want to remedy the problem you let him kick a few short ones to get his confidence up.

And calling for his head is just stupid. I'm all for bringing in competition during camp, but if anybody seriously thinks that there's somebody out there that would be better for this team than Crosby...that's just stupid.

I was wondering the same thing. MM is a dipshit and he continues to amaze me.

I don't buy this. MM called a pass play that ARod took some time looking the field over before going to his checkdown who had room to run, but he dropped it....exactly what in that situation says that MM settled for a 40+ yarder?? I have been critical of MM plenty, but this just isn't warranted.

edit: I do agree that we should NOT replace him unless we are pretty confident its an upgrade which does mean we are stuck with him for the season.....and I also am only stating what I recall with the 5/6 important kicks, I often remember the pain more than the glory.

edit/edit: According to Bedard: "he's only delivered in four of seven "gotta-have-it" moments late in games. He's missed three of his last four"

[MJZiggy]

There was a dude on the train in flip flops. It was 29 degrees. I was tempted to tell him that if he goes to the local shelter, they'll try to get him a real pair of shoes...

People here wear heavy winter coats, hats, scarves and gloves when it drops below 60 degrees. A lone snow flake flutters down and they park their can into the nearest tree or guard rail.

Just wait until they cancel school because it MIGHT snow...

[Iron Mike]

Crosby needs to be gone now.

Awww, hell to the naw. He made an AWESOME Christmas album.

[LEWCWA]

I think everyone should take a step back off the ledge! Crosby is going through a slump it happens. If you give up on talent, due to a slump, it won't be long b4 you are pining for that player while he is excelling someplace else. I believe Crosby will be here and will get it together. He has insured himself of a kicking battle for next season though. They won't just bring in the obligitory camp leg.

[Pugger]

Maybe on 3rd down when we are FG range we should try to run plays to the left hash mark in case we come up short...

We are indeed stuck with Crosby for the duration and as Packer fans we should all pray he gets out of this funk real quick.

[Noodle]

Crosby will be fine. Like PB said, he's clustering his misses, and they're all from the same problem area (right hash). This is WAY fixable with some concentrated practice.

And while we're talking kickers, I've never been a fan of Kampinos, but his booming punt when we got stuffed on 3rd & 1 at the end of the Bear game was huge. I think the punt was 50-some yards, great hang time, and then the Bears pulled a Packer and had a penalty on the return. Clutch kick at a time when a 38 yarder would have put some big pressure on the D.