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  • Originally posted by Patler
    Originally posted by Tony Oday
    Right now we just need a guy that can hit a 40 yarder...bye bye Mason, will be good someday but time to bring in a new guy.
    With all the kickers who are struggling this year, I'm not sure there is one available. The Cowboys are bringing Suishim in today for a tryout, and he was cut for missing 20-30 yarders.
    I know of an option that has not been explored seriously enough: when the Packers get inside the opp's 38 yard line they keep Crosby seated on the far side of the bench unless and until they get into a 4th and long situation (say, 4th and 10 or more) where going for it is just silly. And treat 3rd down play calling accordingly: everything in field goal range is considered 4 down territory. Somebody did a study comparing different outcome probabilties on 4th down and found that, looking at mathematics alone, NFL coaches in general are far too conservative when deciding to kick rather than go for it on 4th. Given Crosby's struggles, McCarthy could just raise the blue bar a little in the "recommended options on 4th down" graph located a third of the way down the page. http://www.advancednflstats.com/2009...dy-part-4.html

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    • I understand the point you all are making, but it reminds me of the kicker Wolf drafted in the 3rd/4th?? that lost the preseason job to Longwell. Huge leg on that kid, but no icewater. Longwell on the other hand simply blames the holder and moves on....sure its annoying, but he doesn't let missing a big kick stick in his mind, he rationalizes....maybe MM should instruct Crosby to start throwing his teammates under the bus to remove the pressure.

      Honestly I hope you all are right and he fixes it. I love the strength of his leg. If he can get those faders over 10 feet the ball flight is very good and he likely can hit 55 yarders with ease. The truth is that Knoblach never did get it fixed.

      I agree there is nothing we can do this season, but we really gotta press him during the offseason and see if he can handle the pressure of REAL competition.
      The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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      • Originally posted by bobblehead
        ...maybe MM should instruct Crosby to start throwing his teammates under the bus to remove the pressure.
        They already changed the holder once. Your suggested option has pretty much been exhausted. Best Pack can hope for is an easy last couple of games with McCarthy able to get Crosby to kick several field goals. either he gets his confidence back or hire someone off the street who can hit 40 in.
        "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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        • Re: Can we finally say CROSBY HAS TO GO?

          Originally posted by gbpackfan
          Can we finally say CROSBY HAS TO GO??
          Yes.

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          • Originally posted by bobblehead
            I understand the point you all are making, but it reminds me of the kicker Wolf drafted in the 3rd/4th?? that lost the preseason job to Longwell. Huge leg on that kid, but no icewater. Longwell on the other hand simply blames the holder and moves on....sure its annoying, but he doesn't let missing a big kick stick in his mind, he rationalizes....maybe MM should instruct Crosby to start throwing his teammates under the bus to remove the pressure.

            Honestly I hope you all are right and he fixes it. I love the strength of his leg. If he can get those faders over 10 feet the ball flight is very good and he likely can hit 55 yarders with ease. The truth is that Knoblach never did get it fixed.

            I agree there is nothing we can do this season, but we really gotta press him during the offseason and see if he can handle the pressure of REAL competition.
            That was Brett Conway, and I thought the consensus was that the Packers overworked him in training camp, he had a fatigued leg, didn't want to complain....and got cut.

            He later kicked for Washington, and had an okay career. But I think it was - again - a case of teams not having enough regard for kicking coaches. I don't understand, when every position has its own coach, why there's not a kicker/punter coach. Then the special teams coach is more like a coordinator.
            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

            KYPack

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            • Packer may have to hire a Placekicker Whisperer at this point.
              "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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              • Here's an idea: the kid misses from the right hash, correct?

                So when we get inside the forty, run everything left or center so that he ends up kicking on the left hash or the middle of the field. Problem solved.

                Damn, I should go apply to be an NFL OC somewhere.

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                • Exactly.
                  "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                  KYPack

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                  • A shaky kicker entering the playoffs is bad. IMO its too late in the season to find a new kicker. Started in preseason and never fixed.

                    Another fg kicker needs to be found for next season.

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                    • Originally posted by rbaloha
                      A shaky kicker entering the playoffs is bad. IMO its too late in the season to find a new kicker. Started in preseason and never fixed.

                      Another fg kicker needs to be found for next season.
                      They'll bring in some bodies for sure. I bet Crosby gets it figured out though. He's got an NFL leg and was good up until recently.

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                      • Originally posted by Noodle
                        Here's an idea: the kid misses from the right hash, correct?

                        So when we get inside the forty, run everything left or center so that he ends up kicking on the left hash or the middle of the field. Problem solved.

                        Damn, I should go apply to be an NFL OC somewhere.
                        I suggested that earlier in another thread jokingly but maybe somebody should give MM and Slocum a call...

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                        • Can we sign a kicker whose contract is up with his present team after said team's season is over in a couple of weeks?

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                          • Originally posted by mraynrand
                            Packer may have to hire a Placekicker Whisperer at this point.

                            Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                            • Originally posted by Pugger
                              Can we sign a kicker whose contract is up with his present team after said team's season is over in a couple of weeks?
                              Nope. Contracts don't expire until the end of the league year. JSO referenced the specific date when they did their piece when Tauscher came back.
                              No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.

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                              • Originally posted by MJZiggy
                                Originally posted by Fritz
                                I'm with PB. There's something he must be doing consistently wrong, and why he hasn't made an adjustment that will get the ball to the left, I don't know. I'd like to at least see him miss one left from that right hash mark, just to assure me that he's making some kind of adjustment.
                                I'm trying to blow off steam. Quit being so damned reasonable!!

                                Pretty hard to blow off steam with a bunch of
                                guys around being so calm and reasonable.
                                Isn't this something TT should have fixed before now?




                                DO Something, OK ??
                                Is it really a halo or
                                just a swelled head ?

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