Ref's screwing us less

[CaptainKickass]

I didn't record the game.

Anyone have a link to the video of the catch plus the review?

I'd love to re-watch it after this thread's wealth of insight.

[Patler]

Unless my memory is failing, didn't the ball come out AFTER Jennings made 2 or 3 steps and didn't Jennings hit the ground after he was past the back the end zone??? Man, I would really like to see a replay of that...

Yes and yes. I had it on Tivo, and re-watched it in stop action ad nauseum.

I described it in another thread like this:

I replayed it advancing "frame" by "frame". The ground level camera had a great unobstructed view of it.

- he stretched, caught it in his hands mid-stride, with both feet in the air.
- there was no bobble or juggle at all, it "stuck" in his hands.
- he began pulling it in to his body and nearly had it there as his first foot hit the ground.
- the ball was up against his chest as his second foot hit the ground.
- the ball stayed there as he went into his 3rd stride.
- just before the first foot hit for the second time, the ball started coming out.

[pbmax]

Go to NFL.com and then to the Video section. Then go to the Packer videos. Both the Game Day highlights and the normal highlights have the play in them. They are each around 3-4 minutes long.

[sharpe1027]

Go to NFL.com and then to the Video section. Then go to the Packer videos. Both the Game Day highlights and the normal highlights have the play in them. They are each around 3-4 minutes long.

Upon further review, it is a goddamn catch.

[pbmax]

If the defensive player touches the offensive player BEFORE the second foot is down the "going to ground" rule applies

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This doesn't help, as the rule specifically applies regardless of whether there is contact by a defensive player or not. Now there is an amendment that requires different circumstances if a defensive player is involved.

[swede]

I feel as if I'm better informed but no closer to understanding whether the situation is a bad rule correctly applied or if it is a good rule applied to the wrong situation.

[Fritz]

The bottom line is that if we're getting screwed less by the refs, we're not getting as much sex.

[sharpe1027]

The bottom line is that if we're getting screwed less by the refs, we're not getting as much sex.

Assuming we don't get screwed more by someone else.

[ThunderDan]

Just watched the replay again. GJ is up for 3 steps and then gets horsecollared down out of bounds. 3 steps up right not even close to going to the ground.

[pbmax]

Just watched the replay again. GJ is up for 3 steps and then gets horsecollared down out of bounds. 3 steps up right not even close to going to the ground.

You might have to factor the bobble? He double-clutches it I think, before losing it on the hit. Or perhaps dementia has finally settled in.

But if he bobbles it, then possession wouldn't have been established and then the hit is before two steps. On Tuesdays. Between the hours of 5:15 and quarter after five.

[gbgary]

just watched nfl total access and our play wasn't even discussed by the head of officials. shit!!

edit: it wasn't discussed on the "bonus coverage" on nfl.com either.

[MJZiggy]

I've decided. We may be getting screwed less OFTEN, but now we're getting screwed worse.

[swede]

I've decided. We may be getting screwed less OFTEN, but now we're getting screwed worse.

I can get that at home. Football is supposed to be my diversion.

[Patler]

Just watched the replay again. GJ is up for 3 steps and then gets horsecollared down out of bounds. 3 steps up right not even close to going to the ground.

You might have to factor the bobble? He double-clutches it I think, before losing it on the hit. Or perhaps dementia has finally settled in.

But if he bobbles it, then possession wouldn't have been established and then the hit is before two steps. On Tuesdays. Between the hours of 5:15 and quarter after five.

No bobble, no double clutch. I wrote the following after watching the replay on my DVR in stop action, advancing "frame by frame":

I replayed it advancing "frame" by "frame". The ground level camera had a great unobstructed view of it.

- he stretched, caught it in his hands mid-stride, with both feet in the air.
- there was no bobble or juggle at all, it "stuck" in his hands.
- he began pulling it in to his body and nearly had it there as his first foot hit the ground.
- the ball was up against his chest as his second foot hit the ground.
- the ball stayed there as he went into his 3rd stride.
- just before the first foot hit for the second time, the ball started coming out.

He had two hands on it at all times from first contact with it through pulling it against his chest, and completing two and a half strides. What looked like a bobble at regular speed was just him stretching to snatch it with his hands and pull it against his body. It never left his hands until it fell to the ground two and a half strides later.

[RashanGary]

Here's what I can't stand:

5 ticky tack holds that kill drives
3 ticky tack PI's
2 ST's holds
1 stupid taunting penalty (don't think I've ever seen a taunting penalty for a guy talking shit after a hit)
1 Shitty call on a TD that should have been called in but was a judgement call sort of and they called it out

0 penalties on the opposition (not even one holding anywhere all game)
1 non call on a late hit out of bounds
3 non calls on borderline PI


All in one game


When that shit happens, I'm fucking livid. You can hardly contain me in my seat. I have to chill out so I don't offend the company. Shit, I have to chill out so I don't scare my brothers. And there have been games like this over the last two years. It's been really bad at times (finally getting better the last two weeks).


This one bad call in a game where I don't recall one other shitty call going against us, I don't know, I'm not upset at all. That was one of the best officiated games I've ever watched because it felt honest, even if it wasn't perfect.